▲ 349 ▼ A new trend in tipping emerges (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world 269 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] derf82@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (6 children) Disliking tipping is no reason to screw hardworking people over. Tipping is a fact of life, even if you think it’s dumb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ultimately, we need to tip people in the short term to keep them afloat until we can work with them in the long term to get America to the standard that most of the rest of the world takes, where tipping is a special case scenario only for exceptionally good work, and never to be needed or expected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) But it doesn’t have to be if the employers pay how they should permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doug@midwest.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sure but until they do a lot of those people need tips to get by and it's far from as easy as "just get a different job" Source: used to be one such person permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) With unemployment numbers so low right now, this is actually the time to "just get another job". In the USA, at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doug@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago Have you tried? What other job do you get when your experience is tipped work? Or do you go to school to take on debt that will set you back for a long time because the education system is shot too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheBat@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Until they do? When is that going to be? When US government makes tipping illegal? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It really doesn't have to be a "fact of life", and it isn't in many places, such as Australia and England -- nations with very similar degrees of economic prosperity, and very similar cultures, to the USA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago People have tried and failed. But my point is, until that time you have to tip. I don’t care for people that don’t tip while arguing they are doing their server a favor. It is a disingenuous attempt to be cheap. A server’s paycheck should not be held hostage to a a war on tipping culture. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Or, employers could pay their workers better. Novel thought, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) And you think not tipping your server today, before they get those wages, will make that happen? Sorry, Mr. Pink. Being an asshole to your server does not make you somehow pro-worker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Yes. By not showing up at all. permalink fedilink source parent [+] yuunikki@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] rjthyen@lemm.ee -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm always torn on this. I want to tip to help someone earn a living, but if enough of us stopped tipping employees would leave unless they were paid more. It does feel like adding suffering to the wrong people, but if out created change it would be nice eventually permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) A better solution is to flat out not patronize businesses that do tips permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rjthyen@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I like eating food though :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 years ago There are all manner of grocery stores that sell that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Signtist@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Ultimately, we need to tip people in the short term to keep them afloat until we can work with them in the long term to get America to the standard that most of the rest of the world takes, where tipping is a special case scenario only for exceptionally good work, and never to be needed or expected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) But it doesn’t have to be if the employers pay how they should permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doug@midwest.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sure but until they do a lot of those people need tips to get by and it's far from as easy as "just get a different job" Source: used to be one such person permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) With unemployment numbers so low right now, this is actually the time to "just get another job". In the USA, at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doug@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago Have you tried? What other job do you get when your experience is tipped work? Or do you go to school to take on debt that will set you back for a long time because the education system is shot too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheBat@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Until they do? When is that going to be? When US government makes tipping illegal? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Doug@midwest.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sure but until they do a lot of those people need tips to get by and it's far from as easy as "just get a different job" Source: used to be one such person permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) With unemployment numbers so low right now, this is actually the time to "just get another job". In the USA, at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doug@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago Have you tried? What other job do you get when your experience is tipped work? Or do you go to school to take on debt that will set you back for a long time because the education system is shot too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheBat@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Until they do? When is that going to be? When US government makes tipping illegal? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) With unemployment numbers so low right now, this is actually the time to "just get another job". In the USA, at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Doug@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago Have you tried? What other job do you get when your experience is tipped work? Or do you go to school to take on debt that will set you back for a long time because the education system is shot too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Doug@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago Have you tried? What other job do you get when your experience is tipped work? Or do you go to school to take on debt that will set you back for a long time because the education system is shot too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Until they do? When is that going to be? When US government makes tipping illegal? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It really doesn't have to be a "fact of life", and it isn't in many places, such as Australia and England -- nations with very similar degrees of economic prosperity, and very similar cultures, to the USA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago People have tried and failed. But my point is, until that time you have to tip. I don’t care for people that don’t tip while arguing they are doing their server a favor. It is a disingenuous attempt to be cheap. A server’s paycheck should not be held hostage to a a war on tipping culture. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago People have tried and failed. But my point is, until that time you have to tip. I don’t care for people that don’t tip while arguing they are doing their server a favor. It is a disingenuous attempt to be cheap. A server’s paycheck should not be held hostage to a a war on tipping culture. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Or, employers could pay their workers better. Novel thought, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) And you think not tipping your server today, before they get those wages, will make that happen? Sorry, Mr. Pink. Being an asshole to your server does not make you somehow pro-worker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Yes. By not showing up at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) And you think not tipping your server today, before they get those wages, will make that happen? Sorry, Mr. Pink. Being an asshole to your server does not make you somehow pro-worker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Yes. By not showing up at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Yes. By not showing up at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rjthyen@lemm.ee -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm always torn on this. I want to tip to help someone earn a living, but if enough of us stopped tipping employees would leave unless they were paid more. It does feel like adding suffering to the wrong people, but if out created change it would be nice eventually permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) A better solution is to flat out not patronize businesses that do tips permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rjthyen@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I like eating food though :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 years ago There are all manner of grocery stores that sell that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) A better solution is to flat out not patronize businesses that do tips permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rjthyen@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I like eating food though :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 years ago There are all manner of grocery stores that sell that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rjthyen@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I like eating food though :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 years ago There are all manner of grocery stores that sell that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 years ago There are all manner of grocery stores that sell that permalink fedilink source parent