▲ 118 ▼ For a Universal Declaration on Fediverse Rights, or: At the Core of the Threads-Debate lies a deeper problem: how can the Fediverse grow without losing its soul in the process? (fungiverse.wordpress.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by blue_berry@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 67 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (4 children) I don’t think it can but hear me out for a second. How about we just don’t grow? We’re not beholden to stock owners needing to see growth year over year. Can we just be happy with what we have? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] nadram@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) 100% agree with you. Growth must not be the goal, maybe a byproduct. Focusing on growth will eventually compromise the quality of our experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Absolutely agree with you as well. Natural growth as a byproduct would mean that those that wish to stay in the fediverse like what the see and stay with the community. permalink fedilink source parent [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 14 points 2 years ago We will absolutely grow. But „organically“ as every other community that stays healthy does. Most people are just used to the inflated expectations that start ups have. But yes, I dont see a reason to force growth, especially not with meta. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it needs to be our goal, but I think if the fediverse gets popular, we should let it grow. I see this place as an infinite green space for people to come and feel free to discuss their interests. Lemmy's communities ensure that it scales, because you only join ones that interest you. Then the community can enforce whatever spirit of discussion it wants to maintain and people can create another community if they want to try something different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 7 points 2 years ago My thoughts exactly. Growth is a byproduct of quality. Similarly, if the Fediverse grows too much and quality starts to slip, we should also let it shrink until quality comes back. I think our aim should be quality, and anything else is just a side effect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes. The argument that we need to grow is a capitalistic one imo. This isn’t a capitalistic platform afaik. Small communities are naturally better, I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Plenty of non-capitalist organizations also seek to grow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yes, but organic growth has its limits unlike capitalistic growth. We can’t grow infinitely and if we grow fast, that growth might be gone as quickly as it arrived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nadram@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) 100% agree with you. Growth must not be the goal, maybe a byproduct. Focusing on growth will eventually compromise the quality of our experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Absolutely agree with you as well. Natural growth as a byproduct would mean that those that wish to stay in the fediverse like what the see and stay with the community. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Absolutely agree with you as well. Natural growth as a byproduct would mean that those that wish to stay in the fediverse like what the see and stay with the community. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 14 points 2 years ago We will absolutely grow. But „organically“ as every other community that stays healthy does. Most people are just used to the inflated expectations that start ups have. But yes, I dont see a reason to force growth, especially not with meta. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it needs to be our goal, but I think if the fediverse gets popular, we should let it grow. I see this place as an infinite green space for people to come and feel free to discuss their interests. Lemmy's communities ensure that it scales, because you only join ones that interest you. Then the community can enforce whatever spirit of discussion it wants to maintain and people can create another community if they want to try something different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 7 points 2 years ago My thoughts exactly. Growth is a byproduct of quality. Similarly, if the Fediverse grows too much and quality starts to slip, we should also let it shrink until quality comes back. I think our aim should be quality, and anything else is just a side effect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 7 points 2 years ago My thoughts exactly. Growth is a byproduct of quality. Similarly, if the Fediverse grows too much and quality starts to slip, we should also let it shrink until quality comes back. I think our aim should be quality, and anything else is just a side effect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes. The argument that we need to grow is a capitalistic one imo. This isn’t a capitalistic platform afaik. Small communities are naturally better, I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Plenty of non-capitalist organizations also seek to grow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yes, but organic growth has its limits unlike capitalistic growth. We can’t grow infinitely and if we grow fast, that growth might be gone as quickly as it arrived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Plenty of non-capitalist organizations also seek to grow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yes, but organic growth has its limits unlike capitalistic growth. We can’t grow infinitely and if we grow fast, that growth might be gone as quickly as it arrived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yes, but organic growth has its limits unlike capitalistic growth. We can’t grow infinitely and if we grow fast, that growth might be gone as quickly as it arrived. permalink fedilink source parent