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[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 141 points 2 years ago (3 children) Easy materials to get from your local 1st century hardware store permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (5 children) they'd probably have non-shitty copper by then, but magnets? thems witchcraft permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] PancakeLegend@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) And don't forget that you need to demonstrate that it's producing a current. Just get a light bulb, right?? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) probably go with a hand-crank zapper or something. it's tricky to do much without resistors and capacitors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atyaz@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago Zap the royalty to prove your point and get flayed and executed for it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damage@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you can make a generator you can make a motor, just connect them together and have one move when you spin the other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koala@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago The could do the same with a belt, go away with your flash nonsense youngling permalink fedilink source parent [–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Plating a metal object with a different metal would probably be the simplest, impressive thing. Or just heating a thin wire? permalink fedilink source parent [–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago Depends on if Ea-nasir was still in business. permalink fedilink source parent [–] preciouspupp@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most people dont even know how to make wires. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) really? isnt it just forcing/extruding hot metal through a die? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) How would you buy copper with no money? It’s not like you can exchange your modern money to their currency. So first you need to find a job and any good paying job is probably protected by guilds and you don’t even speak their language so good luck finding a mentor who will offer an apprenticeship. You will be a peasant. Nothing more than a subsistence farmer who has to rent the land and give half his yield to the local lord. Hunting? Killing anything bigger than a fowl will get you in trouble since big game is property of the lord. Also copper ore doesn’t lie freely on the ground. You need to mine for that shit and be lucky that there is a source in the vicinity, since you can’t travel very far. Can’t buy a horse with no money. And if you found a source you need to convince an entire community to help you mine for copper. You sure as hell can’t do it alone. Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. And you don’t even speak their language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I imagine that the best way to make money would be if you manage to build a rm rudimentary still. I feel like moonshine would be relatively easy to do and a great way to make profit of no one kills you before. Distilled alcohol is quite rudimentary to produce but only appeared late in history. Plus it is great for leisure application, food conservation or medicine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How do you get the materials for a still with no money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Surely you've got a pot or something to cook your food in, right? Stick a leaf or a hollow log over it or whatever. Seriously… Money is fake, and literally everything is materials. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... how is a leaf over a pot the same as a still? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a condensation surface on which vapours revert to droplets in a liquid state due to the colder ambient air-cooled temperature of the leaf compared to the gaseous medium and heat source below it (and therefore lower vapour pressure immediately next to its surface), allowing the condensate/distillate to be collected and funneled for disposal, recycling, consumption, and/or another stage of distillation, and, in this case, producing an increasingly concentrated azeotropic water-ethanol solution which you can sell for the big bucks. …Slightly simplified, of course. You may in fact need multiple leaves over pots, or even a couple leaves bent into funnels/chutes, and possibly even one pot over another pot. I.E., By definition, a leaf over a pot is a still, as long as you put it at a slight angle and leave a small hole at the edge so the distillate can be collected. — Again: Physics provides, money is mostly an illusion/labour optimization mechanism, and sheet metal might be convenient for this use case but literally everything is materials. … If your only thought on how to produce a technology yourself is "Who can I pay for this?", then, yeah, you're not thinking in the right lines to get there. On another note, I like your username though. Did you know they do like pump jet lifting body action stuff in the air? Really cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gork@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago There's always the world's oldest profession... permalink fedilink source parent [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago i guess that if we're going to go the fantasy route, then I'd just steal everything I needed - the strong do as they please and the weak submit, after all. violence is the only language I'd need to speak permalink fedilink source parent [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. Just sprinkle some bird poop or bat guano or whatever other nitrogen and phosphorus-rich gunk onto it when they aren't looking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alteon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you make the die? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Big-ass piece of cast iron with a little hole in it. If you can convince them you know the end product I'm sure the king can point you to his metal workers and in a lot of cases come up with a solution. Also, it's labor intensive but I think you can beat it into wire or use some other methods. If the king says to the blacksmith "make that copper long ans skinny" he can probably make it happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago What tools do you use to precisely work cast iron into a small hole to create your die? permalink fedilink source parent [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago 1st century? probably with diamonds. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 7 points 2 years ago Don't forget it'll need to be covered with an insulator, else your coils would short circuit and not producing any current. So you'll need some chemistry to produce insulator thin enough to create your generator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago It is, but the ancient method is tedious as fuck. It was basically just pulling a piece through dozen of gradually smaller holes, by hand. I dont think you could do one pass extrusion without all of the precision machinery needed to manufacture such machine. But I aint a blacksmith, I just saw the process in some documentary a while ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] preciouspupp@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago No :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] frostwhitewolf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Probably easier to use a lemon and copper plates. Not sure what you'd connect to it though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Use it for electroplating/etching, that's cool as shit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago lodestones lol, people have known about those for aaaaaaaaaages permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Copper wire: yes. Magnets, get lodestones permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can literally mine lodestone and copper. Ancient people have mined those two things since antiquity. Where do you think it comes from now? Fairies? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SineNomineAnonymous@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bring a live translation device, and program it with whatever the expected language is. That alone would be magic to them. And you don;t need to go to a copper mine, there were markets for processed copper. Pulling it into wire is just a case of roughly forming it into a cylinder, then pulling that cylinder through successively smaller holes. A local smith could help you with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago And then hope they don't kill you for being a witch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You literally could just go dig some yourself while they're away and procure it that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cogman@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) What do you think copper ore looks like? What tools would you use? Ancient mining was a punishment, generally a death sentence. It's hard work often overseen by a slave master. Copper ore isn't concentrated copper either a lot of ore goes into a little copper. There's a reason only the really wealthy had copper items. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's amazing what some people here think would be such a simple task in the ancient world. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago Well, in this scenario we'd presumably have our electronic devices with us anyway, so it's honestly a moot point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (5 children) they'd probably have non-shitty copper by then, but magnets? thems witchcraft permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] PancakeLegend@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) And don't forget that you need to demonstrate that it's producing a current. Just get a light bulb, right?? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) probably go with a hand-crank zapper or something. it's tricky to do much without resistors and capacitors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atyaz@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago Zap the royalty to prove your point and get flayed and executed for it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damage@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you can make a generator you can make a motor, just connect them together and have one move when you spin the other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koala@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago The could do the same with a belt, go away with your flash nonsense youngling permalink fedilink source parent [–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Plating a metal object with a different metal would probably be the simplest, impressive thing. Or just heating a thin wire? permalink fedilink source parent [–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago Depends on if Ea-nasir was still in business. permalink fedilink source parent [–] preciouspupp@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most people dont even know how to make wires. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) really? isnt it just forcing/extruding hot metal through a die? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) How would you buy copper with no money? It’s not like you can exchange your modern money to their currency. So first you need to find a job and any good paying job is probably protected by guilds and you don’t even speak their language so good luck finding a mentor who will offer an apprenticeship. You will be a peasant. Nothing more than a subsistence farmer who has to rent the land and give half his yield to the local lord. Hunting? Killing anything bigger than a fowl will get you in trouble since big game is property of the lord. Also copper ore doesn’t lie freely on the ground. You need to mine for that shit and be lucky that there is a source in the vicinity, since you can’t travel very far. Can’t buy a horse with no money. And if you found a source you need to convince an entire community to help you mine for copper. You sure as hell can’t do it alone. Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. And you don’t even speak their language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I imagine that the best way to make money would be if you manage to build a rm rudimentary still. I feel like moonshine would be relatively easy to do and a great way to make profit of no one kills you before. Distilled alcohol is quite rudimentary to produce but only appeared late in history. Plus it is great for leisure application, food conservation or medicine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How do you get the materials for a still with no money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Surely you've got a pot or something to cook your food in, right? Stick a leaf or a hollow log over it or whatever. Seriously… Money is fake, and literally everything is materials. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... how is a leaf over a pot the same as a still? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a condensation surface on which vapours revert to droplets in a liquid state due to the colder ambient air-cooled temperature of the leaf compared to the gaseous medium and heat source below it (and therefore lower vapour pressure immediately next to its surface), allowing the condensate/distillate to be collected and funneled for disposal, recycling, consumption, and/or another stage of distillation, and, in this case, producing an increasingly concentrated azeotropic water-ethanol solution which you can sell for the big bucks. …Slightly simplified, of course. You may in fact need multiple leaves over pots, or even a couple leaves bent into funnels/chutes, and possibly even one pot over another pot. I.E., By definition, a leaf over a pot is a still, as long as you put it at a slight angle and leave a small hole at the edge so the distillate can be collected. — Again: Physics provides, money is mostly an illusion/labour optimization mechanism, and sheet metal might be convenient for this use case but literally everything is materials. … If your only thought on how to produce a technology yourself is "Who can I pay for this?", then, yeah, you're not thinking in the right lines to get there. On another note, I like your username though. Did you know they do like pump jet lifting body action stuff in the air? Really cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gork@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago There's always the world's oldest profession... permalink fedilink source parent [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago i guess that if we're going to go the fantasy route, then I'd just steal everything I needed - the strong do as they please and the weak submit, after all. violence is the only language I'd need to speak permalink fedilink source parent [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. Just sprinkle some bird poop or bat guano or whatever other nitrogen and phosphorus-rich gunk onto it when they aren't looking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alteon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you make the die? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Big-ass piece of cast iron with a little hole in it. If you can convince them you know the end product I'm sure the king can point you to his metal workers and in a lot of cases come up with a solution. Also, it's labor intensive but I think you can beat it into wire or use some other methods. If the king says to the blacksmith "make that copper long ans skinny" he can probably make it happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago What tools do you use to precisely work cast iron into a small hole to create your die? permalink fedilink source parent [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago 1st century? probably with diamonds. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 7 points 2 years ago Don't forget it'll need to be covered with an insulator, else your coils would short circuit and not producing any current. So you'll need some chemistry to produce insulator thin enough to create your generator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago It is, but the ancient method is tedious as fuck. It was basically just pulling a piece through dozen of gradually smaller holes, by hand. I dont think you could do one pass extrusion without all of the precision machinery needed to manufacture such machine. But I aint a blacksmith, I just saw the process in some documentary a while ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] preciouspupp@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago No :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] frostwhitewolf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Probably easier to use a lemon and copper plates. Not sure what you'd connect to it though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Use it for electroplating/etching, that's cool as shit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago lodestones lol, people have known about those for aaaaaaaaaages permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PancakeLegend@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) And don't forget that you need to demonstrate that it's producing a current. Just get a light bulb, right?? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) probably go with a hand-crank zapper or something. it's tricky to do much without resistors and capacitors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atyaz@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago Zap the royalty to prove your point and get flayed and executed for it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damage@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you can make a generator you can make a motor, just connect them together and have one move when you spin the other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koala@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago The could do the same with a belt, go away with your flash nonsense youngling permalink fedilink source parent [–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Plating a metal object with a different metal would probably be the simplest, impressive thing. Or just heating a thin wire? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) probably go with a hand-crank zapper or something. it's tricky to do much without resistors and capacitors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atyaz@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago Zap the royalty to prove your point and get flayed and executed for it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atyaz@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago Zap the royalty to prove your point and get flayed and executed for it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you can make a generator you can make a motor, just connect them together and have one move when you spin the other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koala@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago The could do the same with a belt, go away with your flash nonsense youngling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Koala@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago The could do the same with a belt, go away with your flash nonsense youngling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Plating a metal object with a different metal would probably be the simplest, impressive thing. Or just heating a thin wire? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago Depends on if Ea-nasir was still in business. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] preciouspupp@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most people dont even know how to make wires. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) really? isnt it just forcing/extruding hot metal through a die? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) How would you buy copper with no money? It’s not like you can exchange your modern money to their currency. So first you need to find a job and any good paying job is probably protected by guilds and you don’t even speak their language so good luck finding a mentor who will offer an apprenticeship. You will be a peasant. Nothing more than a subsistence farmer who has to rent the land and give half his yield to the local lord. Hunting? Killing anything bigger than a fowl will get you in trouble since big game is property of the lord. Also copper ore doesn’t lie freely on the ground. You need to mine for that shit and be lucky that there is a source in the vicinity, since you can’t travel very far. Can’t buy a horse with no money. And if you found a source you need to convince an entire community to help you mine for copper. You sure as hell can’t do it alone. Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. And you don’t even speak their language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I imagine that the best way to make money would be if you manage to build a rm rudimentary still. I feel like moonshine would be relatively easy to do and a great way to make profit of no one kills you before. Distilled alcohol is quite rudimentary to produce but only appeared late in history. Plus it is great for leisure application, food conservation or medicine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How do you get the materials for a still with no money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Surely you've got a pot or something to cook your food in, right? Stick a leaf or a hollow log over it or whatever. Seriously… Money is fake, and literally everything is materials. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... how is a leaf over a pot the same as a still? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a condensation surface on which vapours revert to droplets in a liquid state due to the colder ambient air-cooled temperature of the leaf compared to the gaseous medium and heat source below it (and therefore lower vapour pressure immediately next to its surface), allowing the condensate/distillate to be collected and funneled for disposal, recycling, consumption, and/or another stage of distillation, and, in this case, producing an increasingly concentrated azeotropic water-ethanol solution which you can sell for the big bucks. …Slightly simplified, of course. You may in fact need multiple leaves over pots, or even a couple leaves bent into funnels/chutes, and possibly even one pot over another pot. I.E., By definition, a leaf over a pot is a still, as long as you put it at a slight angle and leave a small hole at the edge so the distillate can be collected. — Again: Physics provides, money is mostly an illusion/labour optimization mechanism, and sheet metal might be convenient for this use case but literally everything is materials. … If your only thought on how to produce a technology yourself is "Who can I pay for this?", then, yeah, you're not thinking in the right lines to get there. On another note, I like your username though. Did you know they do like pump jet lifting body action stuff in the air? Really cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gork@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago There's always the world's oldest profession... permalink fedilink source parent [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago i guess that if we're going to go the fantasy route, then I'd just steal everything I needed - the strong do as they please and the weak submit, after all. violence is the only language I'd need to speak permalink fedilink source parent [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. Just sprinkle some bird poop or bat guano or whatever other nitrogen and phosphorus-rich gunk onto it when they aren't looking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alteon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you make the die? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Big-ass piece of cast iron with a little hole in it. If you can convince them you know the end product I'm sure the king can point you to his metal workers and in a lot of cases come up with a solution. Also, it's labor intensive but I think you can beat it into wire or use some other methods. If the king says to the blacksmith "make that copper long ans skinny" he can probably make it happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago What tools do you use to precisely work cast iron into a small hole to create your die? permalink fedilink source parent [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago 1st century? probably with diamonds. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 7 points 2 years ago Don't forget it'll need to be covered with an insulator, else your coils would short circuit and not producing any current. So you'll need some chemistry to produce insulator thin enough to create your generator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago It is, but the ancient method is tedious as fuck. It was basically just pulling a piece through dozen of gradually smaller holes, by hand. I dont think you could do one pass extrusion without all of the precision machinery needed to manufacture such machine. But I aint a blacksmith, I just saw the process in some documentary a while ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] preciouspupp@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago No :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) really? isnt it just forcing/extruding hot metal through a die? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) How would you buy copper with no money? It’s not like you can exchange your modern money to their currency. So first you need to find a job and any good paying job is probably protected by guilds and you don’t even speak their language so good luck finding a mentor who will offer an apprenticeship. You will be a peasant. Nothing more than a subsistence farmer who has to rent the land and give half his yield to the local lord. Hunting? Killing anything bigger than a fowl will get you in trouble since big game is property of the lord. Also copper ore doesn’t lie freely on the ground. You need to mine for that shit and be lucky that there is a source in the vicinity, since you can’t travel very far. Can’t buy a horse with no money. And if you found a source you need to convince an entire community to help you mine for copper. You sure as hell can’t do it alone. Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. And you don’t even speak their language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I imagine that the best way to make money would be if you manage to build a rm rudimentary still. I feel like moonshine would be relatively easy to do and a great way to make profit of no one kills you before. Distilled alcohol is quite rudimentary to produce but only appeared late in history. Plus it is great for leisure application, food conservation or medicine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How do you get the materials for a still with no money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Surely you've got a pot or something to cook your food in, right? Stick a leaf or a hollow log over it or whatever. Seriously… Money is fake, and literally everything is materials. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... how is a leaf over a pot the same as a still? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a condensation surface on which vapours revert to droplets in a liquid state due to the colder ambient air-cooled temperature of the leaf compared to the gaseous medium and heat source below it (and therefore lower vapour pressure immediately next to its surface), allowing the condensate/distillate to be collected and funneled for disposal, recycling, consumption, and/or another stage of distillation, and, in this case, producing an increasingly concentrated azeotropic water-ethanol solution which you can sell for the big bucks. …Slightly simplified, of course. You may in fact need multiple leaves over pots, or even a couple leaves bent into funnels/chutes, and possibly even one pot over another pot. I.E., By definition, a leaf over a pot is a still, as long as you put it at a slight angle and leave a small hole at the edge so the distillate can be collected. — Again: Physics provides, money is mostly an illusion/labour optimization mechanism, and sheet metal might be convenient for this use case but literally everything is materials. … If your only thought on how to produce a technology yourself is "Who can I pay for this?", then, yeah, you're not thinking in the right lines to get there. On another note, I like your username though. Did you know they do like pump jet lifting body action stuff in the air? Really cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gork@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago There's always the world's oldest profession... permalink fedilink source parent [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago i guess that if we're going to go the fantasy route, then I'd just steal everything I needed - the strong do as they please and the weak submit, after all. violence is the only language I'd need to speak permalink fedilink source parent [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. Just sprinkle some bird poop or bat guano or whatever other nitrogen and phosphorus-rich gunk onto it when they aren't looking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alteon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you make the die? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Big-ass piece of cast iron with a little hole in it. If you can convince them you know the end product I'm sure the king can point you to his metal workers and in a lot of cases come up with a solution. Also, it's labor intensive but I think you can beat it into wire or use some other methods. If the king says to the blacksmith "make that copper long ans skinny" he can probably make it happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago What tools do you use to precisely work cast iron into a small hole to create your die? permalink fedilink source parent [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago 1st century? probably with diamonds. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 7 points 2 years ago Don't forget it'll need to be covered with an insulator, else your coils would short circuit and not producing any current. So you'll need some chemistry to produce insulator thin enough to create your generator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago It is, but the ancient method is tedious as fuck. It was basically just pulling a piece through dozen of gradually smaller holes, by hand. I dont think you could do one pass extrusion without all of the precision machinery needed to manufacture such machine. But I aint a blacksmith, I just saw the process in some documentary a while ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] preciouspupp@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago No :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) How would you buy copper with no money? It’s not like you can exchange your modern money to their currency. So first you need to find a job and any good paying job is probably protected by guilds and you don’t even speak their language so good luck finding a mentor who will offer an apprenticeship. You will be a peasant. Nothing more than a subsistence farmer who has to rent the land and give half his yield to the local lord. Hunting? Killing anything bigger than a fowl will get you in trouble since big game is property of the lord. Also copper ore doesn’t lie freely on the ground. You need to mine for that shit and be lucky that there is a source in the vicinity, since you can’t travel very far. Can’t buy a horse with no money. And if you found a source you need to convince an entire community to help you mine for copper. You sure as hell can’t do it alone. Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. And you don’t even speak their language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I imagine that the best way to make money would be if you manage to build a rm rudimentary still. I feel like moonshine would be relatively easy to do and a great way to make profit of no one kills you before. Distilled alcohol is quite rudimentary to produce but only appeared late in history. Plus it is great for leisure application, food conservation or medicine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How do you get the materials for a still with no money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Surely you've got a pot or something to cook your food in, right? Stick a leaf or a hollow log over it or whatever. Seriously… Money is fake, and literally everything is materials. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... how is a leaf over a pot the same as a still? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a condensation surface on which vapours revert to droplets in a liquid state due to the colder ambient air-cooled temperature of the leaf compared to the gaseous medium and heat source below it (and therefore lower vapour pressure immediately next to its surface), allowing the condensate/distillate to be collected and funneled for disposal, recycling, consumption, and/or another stage of distillation, and, in this case, producing an increasingly concentrated azeotropic water-ethanol solution which you can sell for the big bucks. …Slightly simplified, of course. You may in fact need multiple leaves over pots, or even a couple leaves bent into funnels/chutes, and possibly even one pot over another pot. I.E., By definition, a leaf over a pot is a still, as long as you put it at a slight angle and leave a small hole at the edge so the distillate can be collected. — Again: Physics provides, money is mostly an illusion/labour optimization mechanism, and sheet metal might be convenient for this use case but literally everything is materials. … If your only thought on how to produce a technology yourself is "Who can I pay for this?", then, yeah, you're not thinking in the right lines to get there. On another note, I like your username though. Did you know they do like pump jet lifting body action stuff in the air? Really cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gork@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago There's always the world's oldest profession... permalink fedilink source parent [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago i guess that if we're going to go the fantasy route, then I'd just steal everything I needed - the strong do as they please and the weak submit, after all. violence is the only language I'd need to speak permalink fedilink source parent [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. Just sprinkle some bird poop or bat guano or whatever other nitrogen and phosphorus-rich gunk onto it when they aren't looking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I imagine that the best way to make money would be if you manage to build a rm rudimentary still. I feel like moonshine would be relatively easy to do and a great way to make profit of no one kills you before. Distilled alcohol is quite rudimentary to produce but only appeared late in history. Plus it is great for leisure application, food conservation or medicine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How do you get the materials for a still with no money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Surely you've got a pot or something to cook your food in, right? Stick a leaf or a hollow log over it or whatever. Seriously… Money is fake, and literally everything is materials. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... how is a leaf over a pot the same as a still? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a condensation surface on which vapours revert to droplets in a liquid state due to the colder ambient air-cooled temperature of the leaf compared to the gaseous medium and heat source below it (and therefore lower vapour pressure immediately next to its surface), allowing the condensate/distillate to be collected and funneled for disposal, recycling, consumption, and/or another stage of distillation, and, in this case, producing an increasingly concentrated azeotropic water-ethanol solution which you can sell for the big bucks. …Slightly simplified, of course. You may in fact need multiple leaves over pots, or even a couple leaves bent into funnels/chutes, and possibly even one pot over another pot. I.E., By definition, a leaf over a pot is a still, as long as you put it at a slight angle and leave a small hole at the edge so the distillate can be collected. — Again: Physics provides, money is mostly an illusion/labour optimization mechanism, and sheet metal might be convenient for this use case but literally everything is materials. … If your only thought on how to produce a technology yourself is "Who can I pay for this?", then, yeah, you're not thinking in the right lines to get there. On another note, I like your username though. Did you know they do like pump jet lifting body action stuff in the air? Really cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How do you get the materials for a still with no money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Surely you've got a pot or something to cook your food in, right? Stick a leaf or a hollow log over it or whatever. Seriously… Money is fake, and literally everything is materials. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... how is a leaf over a pot the same as a still? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a condensation surface on which vapours revert to droplets in a liquid state due to the colder ambient air-cooled temperature of the leaf compared to the gaseous medium and heat source below it (and therefore lower vapour pressure immediately next to its surface), allowing the condensate/distillate to be collected and funneled for disposal, recycling, consumption, and/or another stage of distillation, and, in this case, producing an increasingly concentrated azeotropic water-ethanol solution which you can sell for the big bucks. …Slightly simplified, of course. You may in fact need multiple leaves over pots, or even a couple leaves bent into funnels/chutes, and possibly even one pot over another pot. I.E., By definition, a leaf over a pot is a still, as long as you put it at a slight angle and leave a small hole at the edge so the distillate can be collected. — Again: Physics provides, money is mostly an illusion/labour optimization mechanism, and sheet metal might be convenient for this use case but literally everything is materials. … If your only thought on how to produce a technology yourself is "Who can I pay for this?", then, yeah, you're not thinking in the right lines to get there. On another note, I like your username though. Did you know they do like pump jet lifting body action stuff in the air? Really cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Surely you've got a pot or something to cook your food in, right? Stick a leaf or a hollow log over it or whatever. Seriously… Money is fake, and literally everything is materials. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... how is a leaf over a pot the same as a still? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a condensation surface on which vapours revert to droplets in a liquid state due to the colder ambient air-cooled temperature of the leaf compared to the gaseous medium and heat source below it (and therefore lower vapour pressure immediately next to its surface), allowing the condensate/distillate to be collected and funneled for disposal, recycling, consumption, and/or another stage of distillation, and, in this case, producing an increasingly concentrated azeotropic water-ethanol solution which you can sell for the big bucks. …Slightly simplified, of course. You may in fact need multiple leaves over pots, or even a couple leaves bent into funnels/chutes, and possibly even one pot over another pot. I.E., By definition, a leaf over a pot is a still, as long as you put it at a slight angle and leave a small hole at the edge so the distillate can be collected. — Again: Physics provides, money is mostly an illusion/labour optimization mechanism, and sheet metal might be convenient for this use case but literally everything is materials. … If your only thought on how to produce a technology yourself is "Who can I pay for this?", then, yeah, you're not thinking in the right lines to get there. On another note, I like your username though. Did you know they do like pump jet lifting body action stuff in the air? Really cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... how is a leaf over a pot the same as a still? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a condensation surface on which vapours revert to droplets in a liquid state due to the colder ambient air-cooled temperature of the leaf compared to the gaseous medium and heat source below it (and therefore lower vapour pressure immediately next to its surface), allowing the condensate/distillate to be collected and funneled for disposal, recycling, consumption, and/or another stage of distillation, and, in this case, producing an increasingly concentrated azeotropic water-ethanol solution which you can sell for the big bucks. …Slightly simplified, of course. You may in fact need multiple leaves over pots, or even a couple leaves bent into funnels/chutes, and possibly even one pot over another pot. I.E., By definition, a leaf over a pot is a still, as long as you put it at a slight angle and leave a small hole at the edge so the distillate can be collected. — Again: Physics provides, money is mostly an illusion/labour optimization mechanism, and sheet metal might be convenient for this use case but literally everything is materials. … If your only thought on how to produce a technology yourself is "Who can I pay for this?", then, yeah, you're not thinking in the right lines to get there. On another note, I like your username though. Did you know they do like pump jet lifting body action stuff in the air? Really cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a condensation surface on which vapours revert to droplets in a liquid state due to the colder ambient air-cooled temperature of the leaf compared to the gaseous medium and heat source below it (and therefore lower vapour pressure immediately next to its surface), allowing the condensate/distillate to be collected and funneled for disposal, recycling, consumption, and/or another stage of distillation, and, in this case, producing an increasingly concentrated azeotropic water-ethanol solution which you can sell for the big bucks. …Slightly simplified, of course. You may in fact need multiple leaves over pots, or even a couple leaves bent into funnels/chutes, and possibly even one pot over another pot. I.E., By definition, a leaf over a pot is a still, as long as you put it at a slight angle and leave a small hole at the edge so the distillate can be collected. — Again: Physics provides, money is mostly an illusion/labour optimization mechanism, and sheet metal might be convenient for this use case but literally everything is materials. … If your only thought on how to produce a technology yourself is "Who can I pay for this?", then, yeah, you're not thinking in the right lines to get there. On another note, I like your username though. Did you know they do like pump jet lifting body action stuff in the air? Really cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I do know that, yes. I love the fact that some squid can fly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gork@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago There's always the world's oldest profession... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago i guess that if we're going to go the fantasy route, then I'd just steal everything I needed - the strong do as they please and the weak submit, after all. violence is the only language I'd need to speak permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Good luck convincing them when everyone is busy tending their crops to prepare for the winter. Just sprinkle some bird poop or bat guano or whatever other nitrogen and phosphorus-rich gunk onto it when they aren't looking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you make the die? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Big-ass piece of cast iron with a little hole in it. If you can convince them you know the end product I'm sure the king can point you to his metal workers and in a lot of cases come up with a solution. Also, it's labor intensive but I think you can beat it into wire or use some other methods. If the king says to the blacksmith "make that copper long ans skinny" he can probably make it happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago What tools do you use to precisely work cast iron into a small hole to create your die? permalink fedilink source parent [–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago 1st century? probably with diamonds. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Big-ass piece of cast iron with a little hole in it. If you can convince them you know the end product I'm sure the king can point you to his metal workers and in a lot of cases come up with a solution. Also, it's labor intensive but I think you can beat it into wire or use some other methods. If the king says to the blacksmith "make that copper long ans skinny" he can probably make it happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago What tools do you use to precisely work cast iron into a small hole to create your die? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago What tools do you use to precisely work cast iron into a small hole to create your die? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago 1st century? probably with diamonds. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 7 points 2 years ago Don't forget it'll need to be covered with an insulator, else your coils would short circuit and not producing any current. So you'll need some chemistry to produce insulator thin enough to create your generator. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago It is, but the ancient method is tedious as fuck. It was basically just pulling a piece through dozen of gradually smaller holes, by hand. I dont think you could do one pass extrusion without all of the precision machinery needed to manufacture such machine. But I aint a blacksmith, I just saw the process in some documentary a while ago. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frostwhitewolf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Probably easier to use a lemon and copper plates. Not sure what you'd connect to it though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Use it for electroplating/etching, that's cool as shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Use it for electroplating/etching, that's cool as shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago lodestones lol, people have known about those for aaaaaaaaaages permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Copper wire: yes. Magnets, get lodestones permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can literally mine lodestone and copper. Ancient people have mined those two things since antiquity. Where do you think it comes from now? Fairies? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SineNomineAnonymous@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bring a live translation device, and program it with whatever the expected language is. That alone would be magic to them. And you don;t need to go to a copper mine, there were markets for processed copper. Pulling it into wire is just a case of roughly forming it into a cylinder, then pulling that cylinder through successively smaller holes. A local smith could help you with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago And then hope they don't kill you for being a witch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You literally could just go dig some yourself while they're away and procure it that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cogman@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) What do you think copper ore looks like? What tools would you use? Ancient mining was a punishment, generally a death sentence. It's hard work often overseen by a slave master. Copper ore isn't concentrated copper either a lot of ore goes into a little copper. There's a reason only the really wealthy had copper items. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's amazing what some people here think would be such a simple task in the ancient world. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago Well, in this scenario we'd presumably have our electronic devices with us anyway, so it's honestly a moot point. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SineNomineAnonymous@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bring a live translation device, and program it with whatever the expected language is. That alone would be magic to them. And you don;t need to go to a copper mine, there were markets for processed copper. Pulling it into wire is just a case of roughly forming it into a cylinder, then pulling that cylinder through successively smaller holes. A local smith could help you with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago And then hope they don't kill you for being a witch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You literally could just go dig some yourself while they're away and procure it that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cogman@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) What do you think copper ore looks like? What tools would you use? Ancient mining was a punishment, generally a death sentence. It's hard work often overseen by a slave master. Copper ore isn't concentrated copper either a lot of ore goes into a little copper. There's a reason only the really wealthy had copper items. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's amazing what some people here think would be such a simple task in the ancient world. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago Well, in this scenario we'd presumably have our electronic devices with us anyway, so it's honestly a moot point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bring a live translation device, and program it with whatever the expected language is. That alone would be magic to them. And you don;t need to go to a copper mine, there were markets for processed copper. Pulling it into wire is just a case of roughly forming it into a cylinder, then pulling that cylinder through successively smaller holes. A local smith could help you with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago And then hope they don't kill you for being a witch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago And then hope they don't kill you for being a witch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You literally could just go dig some yourself while they're away and procure it that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cogman@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) What do you think copper ore looks like? What tools would you use? Ancient mining was a punishment, generally a death sentence. It's hard work often overseen by a slave master. Copper ore isn't concentrated copper either a lot of ore goes into a little copper. There's a reason only the really wealthy had copper items. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's amazing what some people here think would be such a simple task in the ancient world. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago Well, in this scenario we'd presumably have our electronic devices with us anyway, so it's honestly a moot point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cogman@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) What do you think copper ore looks like? What tools would you use? Ancient mining was a punishment, generally a death sentence. It's hard work often overseen by a slave master. Copper ore isn't concentrated copper either a lot of ore goes into a little copper. There's a reason only the really wealthy had copper items. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's amazing what some people here think would be such a simple task in the ancient world. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago Well, in this scenario we'd presumably have our electronic devices with us anyway, so it's honestly a moot point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It's amazing what some people here think would be such a simple task in the ancient world. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago Well, in this scenario we'd presumably have our electronic devices with us anyway, so it's honestly a moot point. permalink fedilink source parent