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What self-professed 'centrists' sound like (media.kbin.social)
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[–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

I'm getting tired of people trying to be offended on behalf of groups who they feel should be offended by something,

That's an important part of being inclusive, though. If you're in a space that, for example, tolerates racist jokes, then there are going to be people who don't feel welcome there. Confronting the person making the jokes is going to be uncomfortable, but by not confronting it, you're prioritizing your comfort over others'.

I'm a Euro-American male, but I'm just repeating what people of color have been saying for years. Read what African-Americans write about race. How To Be An Anti-Racist wasn't written by a white SJW. It was written by Ibram X Kendi, an actual African-American man. Read what people from these groups have written about their own experiences.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    True, but what I'm talking about the instances where someone not from a group has arbitrarily decided is offensive to a group they don't belong to, when the group doesn't necessarily agree.

    For example, we've had cases of white liberals getting offended at fictional characters wearing sombreros (Such as is the case with Mario Odyessy), whereas actual Hispanic groups saw that as being more endearing and inclusive... and well the whole "Latinx" debacle...

    I'm white, but I'm also trans, so I definitely see a little bit of these myself resulting in dumbasses spouting "Cis is a slur!" (No, no it is not!)

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    The problem with this line of thinking is that the groups in question aren't monoliths. Latinx wasn't a term made by white people, it was made by Latinx/Latino non-binary people and then adopted more broadly because they advocated for it.

    Some other people of the affected group thinking it's silly doesn't mean the term or sensitivity is just made up white savior SJWism. The are plenty of women who think a woman's place is in the kitchen and following their husband's lead, but that doesn't mean feminism is junk. People have a tendency to latch on to some segment of the population that thinks the SJW term is silly not because their number one priority is respecting the population as a whole, but because it gives them a pass to not change their habits.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    They're trying to be allies, and sometimes they get it wrong, but I think that's better than the alternative (which is simply staying silent in all cases).

    In the case of "Latinx", it seems like it was dreamed up by somebody who didn't know anything about Spanish. Just put an X on it, now it's inclusive! The problem is you can't conjugate a noun with a fucking X on the end. The preferred term is now "Latine", which has a gender-neutral ending that fits with the rest of the language and is being promoted by Latin(e!) civil rights groups.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Indeed, it still gets annoying though.

    Sometimes uneducated or willfully ignorant allies can give one the feeling of "At this point I'm begging you to just call me a slur instead."

    That said you're absolutely right, we should encourage people for trying to learn and help them to get it right. Instead of screaming at them over a faux pas they stepped in hard.

    Still I will never get over the time a doctor I had bizarrely assumed that because I was trans, that I somehow knew Caitlyn Jenner personally and could "invite her to speak at the practice." She did not remain my doctor long between this and "We are okay with you being trans but we aren't sure it would be appropiate to prescribe you estradial even though you've been taking it for years with another doctor in another town.. even though we specifically told you you could get transgender care here without going out of town if you made us your primary"

    You can see why switching was a high priority

    (For the record this was back when public acknowledgement of transpeople was just starting to get going and before it was commonly accepted that Jenner is a piece of shit. Thankfully more and more doctors in the area do endocrinology for trans patients who have already bene on it for sometime.. don't know if as many will start you off though but it is what it is)

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