This is another post that alerted me of this.

https://lemmy.world/post/13287681

And here is the modlog:

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveCommunity

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[–] 170 points 2 years ago* (13 children)

Why are people joining .world to begin with? The entire point of this is to decentralize. Joining the by far largest instance beats the entire purpose.

Join smaller ones like lemmy.one, lemmy.club, lemmings.world, lemmy.zip etc. We might need to start specifically recommending against .world and for general purpose instances like those.

Also, funny how even reddit allows r/Piracy but not .world lol

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  • [–] 82 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Sync had Lemmy.world as the default instance to register a new account (might still be the case, I'm not sure). One of the factors for sure.

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  • [–] 76 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So does Voyager, Raccoon, and Eternity. Everything is just defaulting to it and it's infuriating.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The dev really needs to change that then.

    Perhaps have a system of selecting randomly from a set of hand-picked general purpose instances at sign-up, where having less people gives it a higher chance of being picked (if it's of at least a certain size of course, to prevent spam etc)

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Agree, but easier said than done

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm a programmer and it really is quite easy to implement lol

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The issue is not about the implementation, but the filter: which criteria do you use to select instances that are eligible for the pool of instances? I'm genuinely asking because I think it takes some time to have a look on instances for people to make the best choice.

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  • [–] 69 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Why are people joining .world to begin with?

    Because how it works when you first join is very confusing, and why you would choose any particular server is not clear at all.

    Also, people want to join something that is bigger and more active because it feels like it would be better (more stable, more content, etc.)

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    In all fairness I applied to 5 Lemmy instances when the Reddit downfall started, including .ca and .world. .ml to date is still the only one to have processed my application. It may have been due to lots of applications at the time but the sheer fact my application is still pending on the other 4 instances leads me to use the one that actually works as opposed to the first one I chose.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago

    Because they have no basis on which to decide where to go. It's like buying toothpaste but there are hundreds of options, none of which you know anything about, so you get whichever seems most popular. It minimises the risk of ending up with something which is unpopular for good reasons.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If you join a small instance, the chances are higher that it will a) be poorly maintained and b) fold quicker, forcing you to find another instance to join and re-subscribe to all your communities.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    so long as you're regularly exporting your profile, moving instances isn't a big deal anymore.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The whole point is most people want simplicity, not a chore.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    convenience, freedom, price, safety. Choose 2

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    For most users, price and convenience. That's been made very clear over and over again.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Sure, but eventually the lack of freedom and security drives them away when the service enshittifies thoroughly.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    That's what we like to think. Facebook, Google, kinda shows us most users are perfectly happy to continue taking abuse, though

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I run my own instance that technically does have open registration, but I can't really recommend anyone actually sign up to use it. It's not running on very powerful hardware, and my commitment to keeping it running 24/7 is "as long as it stays convenient and interesting." There are probably many, many of those. But there are a good collection of second and third tier instances now as well, I'm not to worried about .world's popularity so long as they don't do something like switch to a federation allow-list rather than a block list.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If by open registration, you mean without approval, I strongly recommend you add an approval step, due to spam.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm aware of the risk, but so far the captcha seems to have prevented any mass sign-up, and none of the few other existing accounts so far have any activity. That said, since I have no intention to support a user base anymore, I probably should close it anyway.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Lemmy.world is also notoriously mismanaged and has had dubious privacy issues in the past, such as their Discord situation regarding user messages

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago*

    dubious privacy issues

    They're also federated with threads so I wouldn't be surprised at all. I'm a fool for sticking around in there as long as I have.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Everyone should leave that instance, the admin and the mods on that instance are big time thought police and will find excuses in their vague rules to delete your posts and eventually ban you if your views go against the grain.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Also, don't put all your eggs in one basket: diversify, diversify, diversify. Make a main account, but have more on at least one other instance. Instances go down for maintenance, software gets updated, owners change moderation policies, so on. If you can't get to Lemmy through your main, use your secondary.

    Personally I use lemmy.sdf.org as my secondary. It's run by a bunch of retro-enthusiast Unix nerds who more care about the functionality of the tech than anything else. No blocked communities there, and AFAIK they haven't defederated from any instance outside of ones that were hacked/compromised. That does not mean you can just go there and be a shitbird though, they do have standards.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago*

    I think it's fine to have a main instance, as long as that main instance isn't gung-ho about censorship like lemmy.world has become.

    Although I definitely agree with recommending against joining lemmy.world.

    Such a shitty decision by biased mods and useful idiots. They deserve to lose power as a result.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    I don't disagree at all but I can kind of understand why a lemmy instance would block piracy communities. Reddit has many millions of dollars and a squad of lawyers to back them up, lemmy admins don't.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    why? because it feels safer to join a big and longer lasting instance than a random one with almost no users. such small instances can vanish from one day to the bext. i once created a account on such a small instance and not even a week later it was wiped from earth, taking my account with it. so it's no wonder people chooser rather bigger instances.

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