▲ 125 ▼ What would you like to see done with abandoned malls and corporate offices? (lemm.ee) submitted 2 years ago by ALostInquirer@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 77 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not if they tear it down and rebuild it appropriately permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jonne@infosec.pub 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Most malls are in very inconvenient locations if you don't have a car, tho. Unless you plan on providing every conceivable service right there and/or add reliable public transport links, it's probably not the way to go. You'd basically be building a bunch of apartment blocks near a highway interchange. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Not malls but like 90% of office buildings are sitting empty downtown. Seems like a pretty convenient area to build affordable housing to me, especially considering downtown businesses are also suffering. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Catch 22. You can’t remodel a mall into houses because you need a mall for everyone to go to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you heard of our lord and savior Mixed Zoning? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) More like Lord and Saviour scrap all those insane laws and just let things happen until insurance won't cover it. 15-minute cities are the technocratic response to make a bureaucratic solution that emulates organic city development. It isn't the first time a technocratic solution promises to solve all our problems, the European integrated neighbourhoods made of brutalist concrete are now mostly dilapidated ghettos and have been shit for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeaaah sure, just let everyone build whereever they want... just let things happen until insurance won’t cover it. I'm sure this is in no way lopsided to corporations that can afford to forego coverage for furthering their goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago Well in a corrupt regime where they're not held accountable it is a problem yes, corporations funding it is a small clue why that happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, you could keep some of the mall stuff and have at least a supermarket there, but people would still need stuff that a mall typically won't offer, and people need to get to their jobs as well, unless they all happen to work at that mall. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago I should have written “buildings”. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Most malls are in very inconvenient locations if you don't have a car, tho. Unless you plan on providing every conceivable service right there and/or add reliable public transport links, it's probably not the way to go. You'd basically be building a bunch of apartment blocks near a highway interchange. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Not malls but like 90% of office buildings are sitting empty downtown. Seems like a pretty convenient area to build affordable housing to me, especially considering downtown businesses are also suffering. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Catch 22. You can’t remodel a mall into houses because you need a mall for everyone to go to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you heard of our lord and savior Mixed Zoning? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) More like Lord and Saviour scrap all those insane laws and just let things happen until insurance won't cover it. 15-minute cities are the technocratic response to make a bureaucratic solution that emulates organic city development. It isn't the first time a technocratic solution promises to solve all our problems, the European integrated neighbourhoods made of brutalist concrete are now mostly dilapidated ghettos and have been shit for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeaaah sure, just let everyone build whereever they want... just let things happen until insurance won’t cover it. I'm sure this is in no way lopsided to corporations that can afford to forego coverage for furthering their goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago Well in a corrupt regime where they're not held accountable it is a problem yes, corporations funding it is a small clue why that happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, you could keep some of the mall stuff and have at least a supermarket there, but people would still need stuff that a mall typically won't offer, and people need to get to their jobs as well, unless they all happen to work at that mall. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Not malls but like 90% of office buildings are sitting empty downtown. Seems like a pretty convenient area to build affordable housing to me, especially considering downtown businesses are also suffering. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Catch 22. You can’t remodel a mall into houses because you need a mall for everyone to go to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you heard of our lord and savior Mixed Zoning? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) More like Lord and Saviour scrap all those insane laws and just let things happen until insurance won't cover it. 15-minute cities are the technocratic response to make a bureaucratic solution that emulates organic city development. It isn't the first time a technocratic solution promises to solve all our problems, the European integrated neighbourhoods made of brutalist concrete are now mostly dilapidated ghettos and have been shit for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeaaah sure, just let everyone build whereever they want... just let things happen until insurance won’t cover it. I'm sure this is in no way lopsided to corporations that can afford to forego coverage for furthering their goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago Well in a corrupt regime where they're not held accountable it is a problem yes, corporations funding it is a small clue why that happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, you could keep some of the mall stuff and have at least a supermarket there, but people would still need stuff that a mall typically won't offer, and people need to get to their jobs as well, unless they all happen to work at that mall. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you heard of our lord and savior Mixed Zoning? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) More like Lord and Saviour scrap all those insane laws and just let things happen until insurance won't cover it. 15-minute cities are the technocratic response to make a bureaucratic solution that emulates organic city development. It isn't the first time a technocratic solution promises to solve all our problems, the European integrated neighbourhoods made of brutalist concrete are now mostly dilapidated ghettos and have been shit for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeaaah sure, just let everyone build whereever they want... just let things happen until insurance won’t cover it. I'm sure this is in no way lopsided to corporations that can afford to forego coverage for furthering their goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago Well in a corrupt regime where they're not held accountable it is a problem yes, corporations funding it is a small clue why that happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) More like Lord and Saviour scrap all those insane laws and just let things happen until insurance won't cover it. 15-minute cities are the technocratic response to make a bureaucratic solution that emulates organic city development. It isn't the first time a technocratic solution promises to solve all our problems, the European integrated neighbourhoods made of brutalist concrete are now mostly dilapidated ghettos and have been shit for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeaaah sure, just let everyone build whereever they want... just let things happen until insurance won’t cover it. I'm sure this is in no way lopsided to corporations that can afford to forego coverage for furthering their goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago Well in a corrupt regime where they're not held accountable it is a problem yes, corporations funding it is a small clue why that happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeaaah sure, just let everyone build whereever they want... just let things happen until insurance won’t cover it. I'm sure this is in no way lopsided to corporations that can afford to forego coverage for furthering their goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago Well in a corrupt regime where they're not held accountable it is a problem yes, corporations funding it is a small clue why that happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago Well in a corrupt regime where they're not held accountable it is a problem yes, corporations funding it is a small clue why that happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, you could keep some of the mall stuff and have at least a supermarket there, but people would still need stuff that a mall typically won't offer, and people need to get to their jobs as well, unless they all happen to work at that mall. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago I should have written “buildings”. permalink fedilink source parent