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[–] 28 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Security features used to verify the validity get covered when you add a plastic film.

I've been asked for the number many times, of course, but I didn't think I've ever had to show my physical card to someone in my entire life.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Every job I've had has made a copy of the card for payroll/tax purposes.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And this is where the weirdness starts. I'm in Canada and early in I learned from a relative who was in government and finances told me that your SSN is only meant for the government and government services and nothing else.

    Banks, companies or corporations do not need to see your SSN no matter what they say. The number was only ever supposed to be used with the government, taxation, government benefits and services.

    Banks and companies just started using it as a shortcut to identify people and connect them to government services and taxation. But it was never a requirement, no matter what they said. It's the banks and the companies job to verify who you are.

    I started my bank accounts as a teen in the 90s and with a bit of help, I was able to start them without a submitting a SSN. Every job I had, I actively refused to submit a SSN and told them why which with a bit of arguing they agreed. Funny part is, even though I never submitted one, the bank and every major employer I had already had the number anyway.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Your employer pays a portion of your social security taxes and generally withholds your portion to give to the government on your behalf. How do they correctly do that without your social security number?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    From the link you've provided.

    Documents that may be used under "List C" of the I-9 to establish employment eligibility include:

    • A U.S. Social Security card issued by the Social Security Administration
    • birth certificate issued by the U.S. State Department
    • Etc
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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There are no security features on a ss card.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110201060

    One or more of the following security features appear on SSN cards issued since 10/31/1983:

    • Tamper-proof background

    • Color-shifting ink

    • Intaglio printing in some areas on the front of the card

    • Latent image on the face of the card visible only when viewed at specific angles

    • Red fluorescent nine-digit alphanumeric number on back (beginning February 1996)

    • Intaglio microtext in signature line (when magnified, the line is actually letters spelling out SOCIAL SECURITY)

    • Yellow, pink, and blue planchettes (small discs) randomly displayed on the front and back of the card

    • Anti-copy pattern that is discernable when the card is photocopied

    • For original cards, a dash in each column on the same line as the SSN

    • Date the card is issued [i.e., Cycle Date (CYD) from the Numident] is printed under the signature line on the face of the card (beginning April 2007).

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I've had to provide the physical card at the start of most jobs I've had. What's that form you fill out? I-9?

    Looking at the list of required documents, I may have used a passport at some point as that appears to trump everything, but mine has long since expired and I haven't been bothered to get a new one.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You never had a job in your entire life?

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You've had to present your physical social security card when accepting a job?? I have never and I've worked for a dozen different companies

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yes. For taxes. You work under the table or something? Lol

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You don't necessarily need to present your Social Security card as far as I know - I linked to what I think are the requirements below. I used my birth certificate and driver's license at my current job, for example. https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/form-i-9-acceptable-documents

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, when every place specifically asks for your social and ID, yeah you do necessarily need to present it.

    I ain't carrying my birth certificate around with me.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You shouldn't be carrying your social security card around with you either.

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  • [+] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)
  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    That's a US ss card in the thumbnail. We're obviously talking about the US

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They weren't disputing that it's a US card though..

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)
  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Sorry, I responded to the wrong comment. Meant for this to be to the comment above yours. Whoops.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You responded to the same comment. And both times it's the same response. I never said they disputed anything.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ok so here's the deal. You replied to a guy who said "I don't know how ot is in the US. but..." with a dumb comment about how this is clearly a US card so it's a US issue. Your response made no sense (to me) because the original comment wasn't claiming anything that required US insight. They were simply providing input from their neck of the world.

    Thus my confused response as to what this being a US social security card has to do with anything. Nobody asked for clarification on that, just used it as a launch point for their comment.

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