▲ 139 ▼ [image] Since many people seem to believe you can't tow with cars, here's roughly what dutch people end up doing on vacation. (feddit.de) submitted 3 years ago* by kugel7c@feddit.de to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 184 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 3 years ago* (3 children) This seems not very fuck cars but ok. Also who does not know you can tow with a car? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] spiphy@lemm.ee 15 points 3 years ago (36 children) I think this is in response to stupid large truck vs kei truck thread that made the front page. All the car brains are going on about how everyone ever needs a stupid large truck to tow 85 boats at once permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 41 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh you mean those 4 door vans that are passed off as a truck? Yeah no one should get those, they can't even tow all that well and what can you even use a 4 foot bed for? These are likely the same people that think you should get a $130k 5th wheel that is 32 feet long. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) But I need it to compensate for my shockingly small penis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Body shaming is stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Might I suggest instead firearms? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) I would be mounting unnecessarily large firearms inside of my equally unnecessarily large truck, with a rear window sticker that says "Come And Take It" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago And that's how American criminals get their guns... permalink fedilink source parent [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I mean this kind of mentality serves me well in Kerbal, but.. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I find it very strange that Americans consider 'trucks' and 'cars' to be two separate things. Trucks are cars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) By law they are separate and distinct. Trucks are subject to less environmental regulations (emissions, mpg) are allowed to not conform as closely to automobile standards (the reason why you see trucks with the hood above the height of small children, and you need a stepladder to climb in) and also have to pass different crash tests to be considered "road safe" (a truck only has to not annihilate another truck in a crash test, but crash tests aren't done with say a truck and a motorcycle, or a truck and a small car) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think it works that way anywhere outside the US. Anyways, shouldn't it be trucks and 'other' cars? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 years ago Yeah, I was typing this up from the perspective of US laws. I would hope that it doesn't work that way anywhere else! It is crazy here, haha But yes, it probably should be trucks and 'other' cars. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Yes, they have the law tailored to actually prefer gas guzzlers over normal cars. And less need to care for the drivers or the environments safety. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kugel7c@feddit.de [S] 0 points 3 years ago You are completely correct I was essentially trying to move along the conversation from the last post. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chaogomu@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That thread was specifically telling craftspeople that they could do their jobs with the little Kei truck rather than a larger one. If you use your truck for actual work, you want it to be able to do the job. The Kei truck cannot do the same job as the big truck. It was a stupid comparison. It's like telling someone that they don't need a bucket truck to work on overhead lines or do tree trimming, they can just use a ladder hauled around in a Kei truck. See? Stupid as fuck. No, the correct post to make would have been to point out the obvious fact that 95% of those huge trucks sold are not used for any sort of work at all, they're just expensive and obnoxious fashion statements. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Funny, though, that in Europe, nearly nobody drives a pickup truck. Not even craftspeople. In this city, I've seen one (one!) private pickup, two used by the cities greens department, one by the forest department, and one by a gardening company (and they are a big gardening company, but they have real trucks for most of the work). permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (31 replies) [–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Americans, which is how this post got started. Over on the site that shall remain nameless, one guy unironically told me that I might be able to tow a 150lbs. sailboat with my bicycle on flat ground, but to go up hills would require his truck. Anecdotally, I know a couple who bought a Ford Model F truck to tow a 700lbs. sailboat, because it takes a truck to tow things, despite the total weight of the boat and trailer being less than half the rated capacity for a Honda Civic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is yours a geared cycle? I'm pretty sure a cycle frame can carry ~150 kg, but the brakes and your legs might have issues. Like I can carry a 60 kg friend on my (ungeared) cycle on flat roads. But going uphill would definitely be hard, and downhill might be dangerous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, I have an 8-speed IGH, and a cargo trailer for my bike that's rated for 90kg (200lbs). It adds braking distance, but standard rim brakes handle it fine. To haul a Laser sailboat would take a special trailer, because they're about 4 meters long. It'd be a workout, but eminently possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago Thanks, that makes sense! permalink fedilink source parent [–] knowledgephoenix@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) In my personal American experience, there’s a general notion that you need a pickup truck to tow anything; there’s so much marketing about how big tough pickup trucks can tow so much stuff and you really need this. So I think the implication of this post is less of a “fuck cars” and more of a “fuck trucks in particular” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] spiphy@lemm.ee 15 points 3 years ago (36 children) I think this is in response to stupid large truck vs kei truck thread that made the front page. All the car brains are going on about how everyone ever needs a stupid large truck to tow 85 boats at once permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 41 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh you mean those 4 door vans that are passed off as a truck? Yeah no one should get those, they can't even tow all that well and what can you even use a 4 foot bed for? These are likely the same people that think you should get a $130k 5th wheel that is 32 feet long. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) But I need it to compensate for my shockingly small penis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Body shaming is stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Might I suggest instead firearms? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) I would be mounting unnecessarily large firearms inside of my equally unnecessarily large truck, with a rear window sticker that says "Come And Take It" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago And that's how American criminals get their guns... permalink fedilink source parent [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I mean this kind of mentality serves me well in Kerbal, but.. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I find it very strange that Americans consider 'trucks' and 'cars' to be two separate things. Trucks are cars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) By law they are separate and distinct. Trucks are subject to less environmental regulations (emissions, mpg) are allowed to not conform as closely to automobile standards (the reason why you see trucks with the hood above the height of small children, and you need a stepladder to climb in) and also have to pass different crash tests to be considered "road safe" (a truck only has to not annihilate another truck in a crash test, but crash tests aren't done with say a truck and a motorcycle, or a truck and a small car) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think it works that way anywhere outside the US. Anyways, shouldn't it be trucks and 'other' cars? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 years ago Yeah, I was typing this up from the perspective of US laws. I would hope that it doesn't work that way anywhere else! It is crazy here, haha But yes, it probably should be trucks and 'other' cars. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Yes, they have the law tailored to actually prefer gas guzzlers over normal cars. And less need to care for the drivers or the environments safety. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kugel7c@feddit.de [S] 0 points 3 years ago You are completely correct I was essentially trying to move along the conversation from the last post. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chaogomu@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That thread was specifically telling craftspeople that they could do their jobs with the little Kei truck rather than a larger one. If you use your truck for actual work, you want it to be able to do the job. The Kei truck cannot do the same job as the big truck. It was a stupid comparison. It's like telling someone that they don't need a bucket truck to work on overhead lines or do tree trimming, they can just use a ladder hauled around in a Kei truck. See? Stupid as fuck. No, the correct post to make would have been to point out the obvious fact that 95% of those huge trucks sold are not used for any sort of work at all, they're just expensive and obnoxious fashion statements. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Funny, though, that in Europe, nearly nobody drives a pickup truck. Not even craftspeople. In this city, I've seen one (one!) private pickup, two used by the cities greens department, one by the forest department, and one by a gardening company (and they are a big gardening company, but they have real trucks for most of the work). permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (31 replies)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh you mean those 4 door vans that are passed off as a truck? Yeah no one should get those, they can't even tow all that well and what can you even use a 4 foot bed for? These are likely the same people that think you should get a $130k 5th wheel that is 32 feet long. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) But I need it to compensate for my shockingly small penis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Body shaming is stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Might I suggest instead firearms? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) I would be mounting unnecessarily large firearms inside of my equally unnecessarily large truck, with a rear window sticker that says "Come And Take It" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago And that's how American criminals get their guns... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) But I need it to compensate for my shockingly small penis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Body shaming is stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Might I suggest instead firearms? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) I would be mounting unnecessarily large firearms inside of my equally unnecessarily large truck, with a rear window sticker that says "Come And Take It" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago And that's how American criminals get their guns... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Body shaming is stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Might I suggest instead firearms? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) I would be mounting unnecessarily large firearms inside of my equally unnecessarily large truck, with a rear window sticker that says "Come And Take It" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago And that's how American criminals get their guns... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) I would be mounting unnecessarily large firearms inside of my equally unnecessarily large truck, with a rear window sticker that says "Come And Take It" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago And that's how American criminals get their guns... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago And that's how American criminals get their guns... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I mean this kind of mentality serves me well in Kerbal, but.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I find it very strange that Americans consider 'trucks' and 'cars' to be two separate things. Trucks are cars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) By law they are separate and distinct. Trucks are subject to less environmental regulations (emissions, mpg) are allowed to not conform as closely to automobile standards (the reason why you see trucks with the hood above the height of small children, and you need a stepladder to climb in) and also have to pass different crash tests to be considered "road safe" (a truck only has to not annihilate another truck in a crash test, but crash tests aren't done with say a truck and a motorcycle, or a truck and a small car) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think it works that way anywhere outside the US. Anyways, shouldn't it be trucks and 'other' cars? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 years ago Yeah, I was typing this up from the perspective of US laws. I would hope that it doesn't work that way anywhere else! It is crazy here, haha But yes, it probably should be trucks and 'other' cars. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Yes, they have the law tailored to actually prefer gas guzzlers over normal cars. And less need to care for the drivers or the environments safety. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) By law they are separate and distinct. Trucks are subject to less environmental regulations (emissions, mpg) are allowed to not conform as closely to automobile standards (the reason why you see trucks with the hood above the height of small children, and you need a stepladder to climb in) and also have to pass different crash tests to be considered "road safe" (a truck only has to not annihilate another truck in a crash test, but crash tests aren't done with say a truck and a motorcycle, or a truck and a small car) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think it works that way anywhere outside the US. Anyways, shouldn't it be trucks and 'other' cars? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 years ago Yeah, I was typing this up from the perspective of US laws. I would hope that it doesn't work that way anywhere else! It is crazy here, haha But yes, it probably should be trucks and 'other' cars. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Yes, they have the law tailored to actually prefer gas guzzlers over normal cars. And less need to care for the drivers or the environments safety. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think it works that way anywhere outside the US. Anyways, shouldn't it be trucks and 'other' cars? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 years ago Yeah, I was typing this up from the perspective of US laws. I would hope that it doesn't work that way anywhere else! It is crazy here, haha But yes, it probably should be trucks and 'other' cars. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 years ago Yeah, I was typing this up from the perspective of US laws. I would hope that it doesn't work that way anywhere else! It is crazy here, haha But yes, it probably should be trucks and 'other' cars. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Yes, they have the law tailored to actually prefer gas guzzlers over normal cars. And less need to care for the drivers or the environments safety. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kugel7c@feddit.de [S] 0 points 3 years ago You are completely correct I was essentially trying to move along the conversation from the last post. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That thread was specifically telling craftspeople that they could do their jobs with the little Kei truck rather than a larger one. If you use your truck for actual work, you want it to be able to do the job. The Kei truck cannot do the same job as the big truck. It was a stupid comparison. It's like telling someone that they don't need a bucket truck to work on overhead lines or do tree trimming, they can just use a ladder hauled around in a Kei truck. See? Stupid as fuck. No, the correct post to make would have been to point out the obvious fact that 95% of those huge trucks sold are not used for any sort of work at all, they're just expensive and obnoxious fashion statements. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Funny, though, that in Europe, nearly nobody drives a pickup truck. Not even craftspeople. In this city, I've seen one (one!) private pickup, two used by the cities greens department, one by the forest department, and one by a gardening company (and they are a big gardening company, but they have real trucks for most of the work). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Funny, though, that in Europe, nearly nobody drives a pickup truck. Not even craftspeople. In this city, I've seen one (one!) private pickup, two used by the cities greens department, one by the forest department, and one by a gardening company (and they are a big gardening company, but they have real trucks for most of the work). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Americans, which is how this post got started. Over on the site that shall remain nameless, one guy unironically told me that I might be able to tow a 150lbs. sailboat with my bicycle on flat ground, but to go up hills would require his truck. Anecdotally, I know a couple who bought a Ford Model F truck to tow a 700lbs. sailboat, because it takes a truck to tow things, despite the total weight of the boat and trailer being less than half the rated capacity for a Honda Civic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is yours a geared cycle? I'm pretty sure a cycle frame can carry ~150 kg, but the brakes and your legs might have issues. Like I can carry a 60 kg friend on my (ungeared) cycle on flat roads. But going uphill would definitely be hard, and downhill might be dangerous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, I have an 8-speed IGH, and a cargo trailer for my bike that's rated for 90kg (200lbs). It adds braking distance, but standard rim brakes handle it fine. To haul a Laser sailboat would take a special trailer, because they're about 4 meters long. It'd be a workout, but eminently possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago Thanks, that makes sense! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is yours a geared cycle? I'm pretty sure a cycle frame can carry ~150 kg, but the brakes and your legs might have issues. Like I can carry a 60 kg friend on my (ungeared) cycle on flat roads. But going uphill would definitely be hard, and downhill might be dangerous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, I have an 8-speed IGH, and a cargo trailer for my bike that's rated for 90kg (200lbs). It adds braking distance, but standard rim brakes handle it fine. To haul a Laser sailboat would take a special trailer, because they're about 4 meters long. It'd be a workout, but eminently possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago Thanks, that makes sense! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, I have an 8-speed IGH, and a cargo trailer for my bike that's rated for 90kg (200lbs). It adds braking distance, but standard rim brakes handle it fine. To haul a Laser sailboat would take a special trailer, because they're about 4 meters long. It'd be a workout, but eminently possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago Thanks, that makes sense! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago Thanks, that makes sense! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] knowledgephoenix@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) In my personal American experience, there’s a general notion that you need a pickup truck to tow anything; there’s so much marketing about how big tough pickup trucks can tow so much stuff and you really need this. So I think the implication of this post is less of a “fuck cars” and more of a “fuck trucks in particular” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)