If they were just talking about Reddit, I’d assume something dodgy was going on connected with the IPO. But Quora is supposedly back from the dead too… Am I missing something glaringly obvious here?

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[+] -27 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

Mfers still believe in Russiagate despite everything... It's time to accept they're not Russian trolls, your country is just full of fascists.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Did something come out that disproves the existence of russian bots in social media?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    From the Washington Post piece:

    But the study doesn’t go so far as to say that Russia had no influence on people who voted for President Donald Trump.

    • It doesn’t examine other social media, like the much-larger Facebook.
    • Nor does it address Russian hack-and-leak operations. Another major study in 2018 by University of Pennsylvania communications professor Kathleen Hall Jamieson suggested those probably played a significant role in the 2016 race’s outcome.
    • Lastly, it doesn’t suggest that foreign influence operations aren’t a threat at all.

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    “Despite these consistent findings, it would be a mistake to conclude that simply because the Russian foreign influence campaign on Twitter was not meaningfully related to individual-level attitudes that other aspects of the campaign did not have any impact on the election, or on faith in American electoral integrity,” the report states.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    The overwhelmingly more significant threat is that US corporate social media are integrated with the propaganda machinery of the US government and the capitalist class. The purpose of things like Alliance for Securing Democracy’s Hamilton 68 and the Disinformation Governance Board is not to protect us from foreign influence but for the “intelligence community” to inject its own influence.

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    They have their eye on the fediverse now as well: Atlantic Council » Collective Security in a Federated World

    This is all an extension of how traditional corporate media works, which has been understood for decades:

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago

    This. Everything wrong in US is some bot army peddling propaganda at labor camps. Might even add the Atlantians to the list of foreign influencers before claiming US has more than a significant amount of fascists, racists, xenophobic assholes that already elected criminal as a president, and others war criminals without a shred of repercussions.

    but whatever makes you sleep better at night.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Uh, actually yeah it did. Turns out they were just normal pro-russia conservatives. I thought the Cucker interview would have made that connection pretty obvious. They weren't paid to post that kind of propaganda, they were doing it willingly.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago*

    These things are not mutually exclusive. The fact that Russian propaganda bots swayed a large percentage of American republican fascists in no way debunks the bots. It just means that it was an effective propaganda campaign.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I’m sorry I was hoping what I was asking would be more clear:

    Did something specific, that you can link to disprove the existence of Russian bots in social media?

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Sure but first you have to get me a link to an instance of evidence ever swaying someone's opinion on the internet and not just turning into a debate about the validity of the evidence. EDIT: And the admin literally did that and you went quiet, you're so fucking full of shit.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If I remember correctly the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence quietly released a bipartisan report some years back conforming the existence of Russian trolls in the 2016 election. I haven't seen any evidence or reports released that they have ceased their attempts at manipulating social media since then.

    I do agree though, a lot of the posts are just real people who know that hate gets more engagement and crazy people.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Why can't it be both? Russian social media engineers wouldnt have to try that hard. America's full of a bunch of fascist capitalist warmongers with a majority of liberal sheep for citizens, ready to believe whatever truth they want to be more true than reality.

    Perhaps Russia isn't as involved as of late though? Perhaps Putin killed off all his social media engineers sending them to fight in Ukraine? I'm waiting for the reports to come in from field reporters finding Russian boy scout corpses on the battle field. That's when you know he doesn't have the resources to spend trying to influence American elections. He's got bigger problems, like mandating Russian breeding schedules.

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