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[+] xor@infosec.pub 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nah, no need for this kind of gatekeeping. Anyone who deals with js and its billions of frameworks on a daily basis deserves to be called a developer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. We also deserve to be called, every so often, to see how we're doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago Heyyy its your super duper new project manager! I hope you are feeling a-mazing because you are my a-ce on the team. Anyways i need you to do things twice as fast, because we are running low on budget after sales promised another feature without extra billing and the CEO already signed off on it. Please make this happen somehow. If this project isn't succesfull i'll get fired and have to sell the house. But no pressure! permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Do you even know why you hate PHP? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children) For me, it was this https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-real-escape-string.php permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 7 points 2 years ago Note that that hasn't existed in PHP for years. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 2 years ago* Blame MySQL for that. The PHP API just mirrors the MySQL C API of the same name. https://dev.mysql.com/doc/c-api/8.0/en/mysql-real-escape-string.html Modern PHP doesn't use it - any modern code uses PDO with prepared statements. permalink fedilink source parent [+] person@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Never used it in over 23 years of using PHP. Also, I don't thing that has existed anymore for the past 10 years or so? Seriously, if we're going to do this, can we also bitch about painful java apps from 10 years ago, or the hilariously shitty modules in node from 10 years ago? I can go on for a while, but you hopefully get the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The question was why do I hate it, and it was because of this. I don't understand your confusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago My confusion is that you hate it tosay because someone over a decade ago wrote 10 times the same complaint that was mostly fixed already since about a decade ago permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That article is over a decade old. A lot of these issues aren't relevant any more or have been fixed. Some weren't even PHP issues, for example mysql_real_escape_string is a MySQL API (https://dev.mysql.com/doc/c-api/8.0/en/mysql-real-escape-string.html). PHP isn't the best language, but it's not as bad as some people claim it to be, especially if you use a good framework like Laravel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 3 points 2 years ago Nice troll permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) JavaScript has a lot of the same issues as PHP. It doesn't have some of the same core library issues because it doesn't have a good core library. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Adding a third-party library in PHP is just as easy. The composer.json file looks very similar to a package.json. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ECMA 6 has had drastic improvements over the past js… Sure, but it still lacks basic built-in features. For example, why do maps and sets not have sort or filter methods? In Node, why is there no built-in way to connect to a database of any sort? Why can Node.js apps only use a single time zone? Requiring libraries for everything is not ideal as the libraries vary wildly in quality and they can end up either abandoned or containing malware (which has happened several times in the Node ecosystem). still infinitely better than php They each have their pros and cons, depending on use case. Node.js does some things better than PHP, but the opposite is true too. You can build a whole PHP website without using any third-party libraries, and it'll work on any web host that supports PHP (literally any good web host that exists today). There's value in having that level of flexibility. You can build a PHP site today and it'll mostly still be working (maybe with some minor changes) in 5 years, whereas for some of my Node.js sites I have to switch to an older version of Node just to build them. For example https://obviousspoilers.com/ has been practically untouched since 2009. The fact that PHP can run multiple apps in the same FPM process means that you can run thousands of sites on a single server without issues. There's some non-Node solutions to this (like Cloudflare workers) but they're mostly proprietary at the moment. There are more PHP than Node.js jobs, and far more sites use PHP. Wordpress uses PHP and powers over 40% of the web, so that means that at least 40% of all websites use PHP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) i hope you enjoy all of your "programming" with your garbage little "language" and POS word🤢press🤮 p.s. notice how everyone who argues in favor of php and wordpress ONLY know that language and framework? lol I don't use PHP any more... I primarily use C#. I can still see the advantages of PHP without it being a language I use day-to-day. wordpress does not power 40% of the web... Do you have any data that proves otherwise? Because all available data I've seen disagrees with you. https://wordpress.org/40-percent-of-web/ https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress It's not just small sites. A bunch of major publications use WordPress too. Forbes and TechCrunch both use WordPress for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) also downvotes aren't supposed to be used just because you disagree with someone's opinion. Your comments seem like a typical redditor so please just go back to Reddit if you're going to use downvotes that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is literally a decade old article with basically 1 complaint that sometimes functions are strpos() and sometimes str_len(). Anything else it's saying is "I don't even know how to say it". Really now? Any of your complaints have been fixed since about a decade ago, so why don't you give it a try? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm a full-stack web developer and am involved all the way through including cloud infrastructure, API development, database creation/maintenance, test automation, architecture etc. I guess what makes a "developer" in your context different? Embedded? Kernel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dabu@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Only those who code in the same language as I am can be called developers. Everyone else is just an impostor and their technology doesn't matter! Real programmers use my language of choice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DichotoDeezNutz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If you don't daily x86 assembly, do you even know anything about computers? permalink fedilink source parent [–] einsteinx2@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Have you heard about our lord and savior Rust? 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent [–] scorpionix@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago Just like my $variables I can be anything I want. Deal with it! 🫳🎤 permalink fedilink source parent [–] astraeus@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) As if webapps aren’t usurping mobile and desktop apps, anything not C# or .NET is a toy language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Scooters are more efficient, get you where you need to go and cost less to maintain. Your analogy is actually pretty good in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Now you’re throwing ad hominem around. You don’t need to be toxic to communicate your point, web development did at one point have a lot of growing to do and I can admit that there is still plenty of progress to be made. In 2024 however, ignoring the web ecosystem as any type of developer is purely traditionalist elitism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] anzo@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Please refrain of using offensive words, specially if you are trying to actually communicate an idea that is by all means demeaning to other people. The community is about humour, keep that in mind ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] metaballism@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So if I'm using Rust to write a web app that compiles to WebAsm, what am I? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago To be fair, we do develop stuff. Nothing implies quality, so it’s not like we’re misrepresenting anything. Personally, anyone who calls themselves a software engineer and works with any web-related technology (PHP, JavaScript, etc) are the ones to be shunned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] weevai@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🖕 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nah, no need for this kind of gatekeeping. Anyone who deals with js and its billions of frameworks on a daily basis deserves to be called a developer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. We also deserve to be called, every so often, to see how we're doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago Heyyy its your super duper new project manager! I hope you are feeling a-mazing because you are my a-ce on the team. Anyways i need you to do things twice as fast, because we are running low on budget after sales promised another feature without extra billing and the CEO already signed off on it. Please make this happen somehow. If this project isn't succesfull i'll get fired and have to sell the house. But no pressure! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. We also deserve to be called, every so often, to see how we're doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago Heyyy its your super duper new project manager! I hope you are feeling a-mazing because you are my a-ce on the team. Anyways i need you to do things twice as fast, because we are running low on budget after sales promised another feature without extra billing and the CEO already signed off on it. Please make this happen somehow. If this project isn't succesfull i'll get fired and have to sell the house. But no pressure! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago Heyyy its your super duper new project manager! I hope you are feeling a-mazing because you are my a-ce on the team. Anyways i need you to do things twice as fast, because we are running low on budget after sales promised another feature without extra billing and the CEO already signed off on it. Please make this happen somehow. If this project isn't succesfull i'll get fired and have to sell the house. But no pressure! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Do you even know why you hate PHP? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children) For me, it was this https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-real-escape-string.php permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 7 points 2 years ago Note that that hasn't existed in PHP for years. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 2 years ago* Blame MySQL for that. The PHP API just mirrors the MySQL C API of the same name. https://dev.mysql.com/doc/c-api/8.0/en/mysql-real-escape-string.html Modern PHP doesn't use it - any modern code uses PDO with prepared statements. permalink fedilink source parent [+] person@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Never used it in over 23 years of using PHP. Also, I don't thing that has existed anymore for the past 10 years or so? Seriously, if we're going to do this, can we also bitch about painful java apps from 10 years ago, or the hilariously shitty modules in node from 10 years ago? I can go on for a while, but you hopefully get the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The question was why do I hate it, and it was because of this. I don't understand your confusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago My confusion is that you hate it tosay because someone over a decade ago wrote 10 times the same complaint that was mostly fixed already since about a decade ago permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That article is over a decade old. A lot of these issues aren't relevant any more or have been fixed. Some weren't even PHP issues, for example mysql_real_escape_string is a MySQL API (https://dev.mysql.com/doc/c-api/8.0/en/mysql-real-escape-string.html). PHP isn't the best language, but it's not as bad as some people claim it to be, especially if you use a good framework like Laravel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 3 points 2 years ago Nice troll permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) JavaScript has a lot of the same issues as PHP. It doesn't have some of the same core library issues because it doesn't have a good core library. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Adding a third-party library in PHP is just as easy. The composer.json file looks very similar to a package.json. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ECMA 6 has had drastic improvements over the past js… Sure, but it still lacks basic built-in features. For example, why do maps and sets not have sort or filter methods? In Node, why is there no built-in way to connect to a database of any sort? Why can Node.js apps only use a single time zone? Requiring libraries for everything is not ideal as the libraries vary wildly in quality and they can end up either abandoned or containing malware (which has happened several times in the Node ecosystem). still infinitely better than php They each have their pros and cons, depending on use case. Node.js does some things better than PHP, but the opposite is true too. You can build a whole PHP website without using any third-party libraries, and it'll work on any web host that supports PHP (literally any good web host that exists today). There's value in having that level of flexibility. You can build a PHP site today and it'll mostly still be working (maybe with some minor changes) in 5 years, whereas for some of my Node.js sites I have to switch to an older version of Node just to build them. For example https://obviousspoilers.com/ has been practically untouched since 2009. The fact that PHP can run multiple apps in the same FPM process means that you can run thousands of sites on a single server without issues. There's some non-Node solutions to this (like Cloudflare workers) but they're mostly proprietary at the moment. There are more PHP than Node.js jobs, and far more sites use PHP. Wordpress uses PHP and powers over 40% of the web, so that means that at least 40% of all websites use PHP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) i hope you enjoy all of your "programming" with your garbage little "language" and POS word🤢press🤮 p.s. notice how everyone who argues in favor of php and wordpress ONLY know that language and framework? lol I don't use PHP any more... I primarily use C#. I can still see the advantages of PHP without it being a language I use day-to-day. wordpress does not power 40% of the web... Do you have any data that proves otherwise? Because all available data I've seen disagrees with you. https://wordpress.org/40-percent-of-web/ https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress It's not just small sites. A bunch of major publications use WordPress too. Forbes and TechCrunch both use WordPress for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) also downvotes aren't supposed to be used just because you disagree with someone's opinion. Your comments seem like a typical redditor so please just go back to Reddit if you're going to use downvotes that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is literally a decade old article with basically 1 complaint that sometimes functions are strpos() and sometimes str_len(). Anything else it's saying is "I don't even know how to say it". Really now? Any of your complaints have been fixed since about a decade ago, so why don't you give it a try? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children) For me, it was this https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-real-escape-string.php permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 7 points 2 years ago Note that that hasn't existed in PHP for years. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 2 years ago* Blame MySQL for that. The PHP API just mirrors the MySQL C API of the same name. https://dev.mysql.com/doc/c-api/8.0/en/mysql-real-escape-string.html Modern PHP doesn't use it - any modern code uses PDO with prepared statements. permalink fedilink source parent [+] person@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Never used it in over 23 years of using PHP. Also, I don't thing that has existed anymore for the past 10 years or so? Seriously, if we're going to do this, can we also bitch about painful java apps from 10 years ago, or the hilariously shitty modules in node from 10 years ago? I can go on for a while, but you hopefully get the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The question was why do I hate it, and it was because of this. I don't understand your confusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago My confusion is that you hate it tosay because someone over a decade ago wrote 10 times the same complaint that was mostly fixed already since about a decade ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 7 points 2 years ago Note that that hasn't existed in PHP for years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 2 years ago* Blame MySQL for that. The PHP API just mirrors the MySQL C API of the same name. https://dev.mysql.com/doc/c-api/8.0/en/mysql-real-escape-string.html Modern PHP doesn't use it - any modern code uses PDO with prepared statements. permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Never used it in over 23 years of using PHP. Also, I don't thing that has existed anymore for the past 10 years or so? Seriously, if we're going to do this, can we also bitch about painful java apps from 10 years ago, or the hilariously shitty modules in node from 10 years ago? I can go on for a while, but you hopefully get the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The question was why do I hate it, and it was because of this. I don't understand your confusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago My confusion is that you hate it tosay because someone over a decade ago wrote 10 times the same complaint that was mostly fixed already since about a decade ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The question was why do I hate it, and it was because of this. I don't understand your confusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago My confusion is that you hate it tosay because someone over a decade ago wrote 10 times the same complaint that was mostly fixed already since about a decade ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago My confusion is that you hate it tosay because someone over a decade ago wrote 10 times the same complaint that was mostly fixed already since about a decade ago permalink fedilink source parent
[+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That article is over a decade old. A lot of these issues aren't relevant any more or have been fixed. Some weren't even PHP issues, for example mysql_real_escape_string is a MySQL API (https://dev.mysql.com/doc/c-api/8.0/en/mysql-real-escape-string.html). PHP isn't the best language, but it's not as bad as some people claim it to be, especially if you use a good framework like Laravel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 3 points 2 years ago Nice troll permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) JavaScript has a lot of the same issues as PHP. It doesn't have some of the same core library issues because it doesn't have a good core library. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Adding a third-party library in PHP is just as easy. The composer.json file looks very similar to a package.json. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ECMA 6 has had drastic improvements over the past js… Sure, but it still lacks basic built-in features. For example, why do maps and sets not have sort or filter methods? In Node, why is there no built-in way to connect to a database of any sort? Why can Node.js apps only use a single time zone? Requiring libraries for everything is not ideal as the libraries vary wildly in quality and they can end up either abandoned or containing malware (which has happened several times in the Node ecosystem). still infinitely better than php They each have their pros and cons, depending on use case. Node.js does some things better than PHP, but the opposite is true too. You can build a whole PHP website without using any third-party libraries, and it'll work on any web host that supports PHP (literally any good web host that exists today). There's value in having that level of flexibility. You can build a PHP site today and it'll mostly still be working (maybe with some minor changes) in 5 years, whereas for some of my Node.js sites I have to switch to an older version of Node just to build them. For example https://obviousspoilers.com/ has been practically untouched since 2009. The fact that PHP can run multiple apps in the same FPM process means that you can run thousands of sites on a single server without issues. There's some non-Node solutions to this (like Cloudflare workers) but they're mostly proprietary at the moment. There are more PHP than Node.js jobs, and far more sites use PHP. Wordpress uses PHP and powers over 40% of the web, so that means that at least 40% of all websites use PHP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) i hope you enjoy all of your "programming" with your garbage little "language" and POS word🤢press🤮 p.s. notice how everyone who argues in favor of php and wordpress ONLY know that language and framework? lol I don't use PHP any more... I primarily use C#. I can still see the advantages of PHP without it being a language I use day-to-day. wordpress does not power 40% of the web... Do you have any data that proves otherwise? Because all available data I've seen disagrees with you. https://wordpress.org/40-percent-of-web/ https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress It's not just small sites. A bunch of major publications use WordPress too. Forbes and TechCrunch both use WordPress for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) also downvotes aren't supposed to be used just because you disagree with someone's opinion. Your comments seem like a typical redditor so please just go back to Reddit if you're going to use downvotes that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is literally a decade old article with basically 1 complaint that sometimes functions are strpos() and sometimes str_len(). Anything else it's saying is "I don't even know how to say it". Really now? Any of your complaints have been fixed since about a decade ago, so why don't you give it a try? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That article is over a decade old. A lot of these issues aren't relevant any more or have been fixed. Some weren't even PHP issues, for example mysql_real_escape_string is a MySQL API (https://dev.mysql.com/doc/c-api/8.0/en/mysql-real-escape-string.html). PHP isn't the best language, but it's not as bad as some people claim it to be, especially if you use a good framework like Laravel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 3 points 2 years ago Nice troll permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) JavaScript has a lot of the same issues as PHP. It doesn't have some of the same core library issues because it doesn't have a good core library. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Adding a third-party library in PHP is just as easy. The composer.json file looks very similar to a package.json. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ECMA 6 has had drastic improvements over the past js… Sure, but it still lacks basic built-in features. For example, why do maps and sets not have sort or filter methods? In Node, why is there no built-in way to connect to a database of any sort? Why can Node.js apps only use a single time zone? Requiring libraries for everything is not ideal as the libraries vary wildly in quality and they can end up either abandoned or containing malware (which has happened several times in the Node ecosystem). still infinitely better than php They each have their pros and cons, depending on use case. Node.js does some things better than PHP, but the opposite is true too. You can build a whole PHP website without using any third-party libraries, and it'll work on any web host that supports PHP (literally any good web host that exists today). There's value in having that level of flexibility. You can build a PHP site today and it'll mostly still be working (maybe with some minor changes) in 5 years, whereas for some of my Node.js sites I have to switch to an older version of Node just to build them. For example https://obviousspoilers.com/ has been practically untouched since 2009. The fact that PHP can run multiple apps in the same FPM process means that you can run thousands of sites on a single server without issues. There's some non-Node solutions to this (like Cloudflare workers) but they're mostly proprietary at the moment. There are more PHP than Node.js jobs, and far more sites use PHP. Wordpress uses PHP and powers over 40% of the web, so that means that at least 40% of all websites use PHP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) i hope you enjoy all of your "programming" with your garbage little "language" and POS word🤢press🤮 p.s. notice how everyone who argues in favor of php and wordpress ONLY know that language and framework? lol I don't use PHP any more... I primarily use C#. I can still see the advantages of PHP without it being a language I use day-to-day. wordpress does not power 40% of the web... Do you have any data that proves otherwise? Because all available data I've seen disagrees with you. https://wordpress.org/40-percent-of-web/ https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress It's not just small sites. A bunch of major publications use WordPress too. Forbes and TechCrunch both use WordPress for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) also downvotes aren't supposed to be used just because you disagree with someone's opinion. Your comments seem like a typical redditor so please just go back to Reddit if you're going to use downvotes that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] xor@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 3 points 2 years ago Nice troll permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) JavaScript has a lot of the same issues as PHP. It doesn't have some of the same core library issues because it doesn't have a good core library. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Adding a third-party library in PHP is just as easy. The composer.json file looks very similar to a package.json. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ECMA 6 has had drastic improvements over the past js… Sure, but it still lacks basic built-in features. For example, why do maps and sets not have sort or filter methods? In Node, why is there no built-in way to connect to a database of any sort? Why can Node.js apps only use a single time zone? Requiring libraries for everything is not ideal as the libraries vary wildly in quality and they can end up either abandoned or containing malware (which has happened several times in the Node ecosystem). still infinitely better than php They each have their pros and cons, depending on use case. Node.js does some things better than PHP, but the opposite is true too. You can build a whole PHP website without using any third-party libraries, and it'll work on any web host that supports PHP (literally any good web host that exists today). There's value in having that level of flexibility. You can build a PHP site today and it'll mostly still be working (maybe with some minor changes) in 5 years, whereas for some of my Node.js sites I have to switch to an older version of Node just to build them. For example https://obviousspoilers.com/ has been practically untouched since 2009. The fact that PHP can run multiple apps in the same FPM process means that you can run thousands of sites on a single server without issues. There's some non-Node solutions to this (like Cloudflare workers) but they're mostly proprietary at the moment. There are more PHP than Node.js jobs, and far more sites use PHP. Wordpress uses PHP and powers over 40% of the web, so that means that at least 40% of all websites use PHP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) i hope you enjoy all of your "programming" with your garbage little "language" and POS word🤢press🤮 p.s. notice how everyone who argues in favor of php and wordpress ONLY know that language and framework? lol I don't use PHP any more... I primarily use C#. I can still see the advantages of PHP without it being a language I use day-to-day. wordpress does not power 40% of the web... Do you have any data that proves otherwise? Because all available data I've seen disagrees with you. https://wordpress.org/40-percent-of-web/ https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress It's not just small sites. A bunch of major publications use WordPress too. Forbes and TechCrunch both use WordPress for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) also downvotes aren't supposed to be used just because you disagree with someone's opinion. Your comments seem like a typical redditor so please just go back to Reddit if you're going to use downvotes that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) JavaScript has a lot of the same issues as PHP. It doesn't have some of the same core library issues because it doesn't have a good core library. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Adding a third-party library in PHP is just as easy. The composer.json file looks very similar to a package.json. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ECMA 6 has had drastic improvements over the past js… Sure, but it still lacks basic built-in features. For example, why do maps and sets not have sort or filter methods? In Node, why is there no built-in way to connect to a database of any sort? Why can Node.js apps only use a single time zone? Requiring libraries for everything is not ideal as the libraries vary wildly in quality and they can end up either abandoned or containing malware (which has happened several times in the Node ecosystem). still infinitely better than php They each have their pros and cons, depending on use case. Node.js does some things better than PHP, but the opposite is true too. You can build a whole PHP website without using any third-party libraries, and it'll work on any web host that supports PHP (literally any good web host that exists today). There's value in having that level of flexibility. You can build a PHP site today and it'll mostly still be working (maybe with some minor changes) in 5 years, whereas for some of my Node.js sites I have to switch to an older version of Node just to build them. For example https://obviousspoilers.com/ has been practically untouched since 2009. The fact that PHP can run multiple apps in the same FPM process means that you can run thousands of sites on a single server without issues. There's some non-Node solutions to this (like Cloudflare workers) but they're mostly proprietary at the moment. There are more PHP than Node.js jobs, and far more sites use PHP. Wordpress uses PHP and powers over 40% of the web, so that means that at least 40% of all websites use PHP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) i hope you enjoy all of your "programming" with your garbage little "language" and POS word🤢press🤮 p.s. notice how everyone who argues in favor of php and wordpress ONLY know that language and framework? lol I don't use PHP any more... I primarily use C#. I can still see the advantages of PHP without it being a language I use day-to-day. wordpress does not power 40% of the web... Do you have any data that proves otherwise? Because all available data I've seen disagrees with you. https://wordpress.org/40-percent-of-web/ https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress It's not just small sites. A bunch of major publications use WordPress too. Forbes and TechCrunch both use WordPress for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) also downvotes aren't supposed to be used just because you disagree with someone's opinion. Your comments seem like a typical redditor so please just go back to Reddit if you're going to use downvotes that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Adding a third-party library in PHP is just as easy. The composer.json file looks very similar to a package.json. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Adding a third-party library in PHP is just as easy. The composer.json file looks very similar to a package.json. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ECMA 6 has had drastic improvements over the past js… Sure, but it still lacks basic built-in features. For example, why do maps and sets not have sort or filter methods? In Node, why is there no built-in way to connect to a database of any sort? Why can Node.js apps only use a single time zone? Requiring libraries for everything is not ideal as the libraries vary wildly in quality and they can end up either abandoned or containing malware (which has happened several times in the Node ecosystem). still infinitely better than php They each have their pros and cons, depending on use case. Node.js does some things better than PHP, but the opposite is true too. You can build a whole PHP website without using any third-party libraries, and it'll work on any web host that supports PHP (literally any good web host that exists today). There's value in having that level of flexibility. You can build a PHP site today and it'll mostly still be working (maybe with some minor changes) in 5 years, whereas for some of my Node.js sites I have to switch to an older version of Node just to build them. For example https://obviousspoilers.com/ has been practically untouched since 2009. The fact that PHP can run multiple apps in the same FPM process means that you can run thousands of sites on a single server without issues. There's some non-Node solutions to this (like Cloudflare workers) but they're mostly proprietary at the moment. There are more PHP than Node.js jobs, and far more sites use PHP. Wordpress uses PHP and powers over 40% of the web, so that means that at least 40% of all websites use PHP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) i hope you enjoy all of your "programming" with your garbage little "language" and POS word🤢press🤮 p.s. notice how everyone who argues in favor of php and wordpress ONLY know that language and framework? lol I don't use PHP any more... I primarily use C#. I can still see the advantages of PHP without it being a language I use day-to-day. wordpress does not power 40% of the web... Do you have any data that proves otherwise? Because all available data I've seen disagrees with you. https://wordpress.org/40-percent-of-web/ https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress It's not just small sites. A bunch of major publications use WordPress too. Forbes and TechCrunch both use WordPress for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) also downvotes aren't supposed to be used just because you disagree with someone's opinion. Your comments seem like a typical redditor so please just go back to Reddit if you're going to use downvotes that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ECMA 6 has had drastic improvements over the past js… Sure, but it still lacks basic built-in features. For example, why do maps and sets not have sort or filter methods? In Node, why is there no built-in way to connect to a database of any sort? Why can Node.js apps only use a single time zone? Requiring libraries for everything is not ideal as the libraries vary wildly in quality and they can end up either abandoned or containing malware (which has happened several times in the Node ecosystem). still infinitely better than php They each have their pros and cons, depending on use case. Node.js does some things better than PHP, but the opposite is true too. You can build a whole PHP website without using any third-party libraries, and it'll work on any web host that supports PHP (literally any good web host that exists today). There's value in having that level of flexibility. You can build a PHP site today and it'll mostly still be working (maybe with some minor changes) in 5 years, whereas for some of my Node.js sites I have to switch to an older version of Node just to build them. For example https://obviousspoilers.com/ has been practically untouched since 2009. The fact that PHP can run multiple apps in the same FPM process means that you can run thousands of sites on a single server without issues. There's some non-Node solutions to this (like Cloudflare workers) but they're mostly proprietary at the moment. There are more PHP than Node.js jobs, and far more sites use PHP. Wordpress uses PHP and powers over 40% of the web, so that means that at least 40% of all websites use PHP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) i hope you enjoy all of your "programming" with your garbage little "language" and POS word🤢press🤮 p.s. notice how everyone who argues in favor of php and wordpress ONLY know that language and framework? lol I don't use PHP any more... I primarily use C#. I can still see the advantages of PHP without it being a language I use day-to-day. wordpress does not power 40% of the web... Do you have any data that proves otherwise? Because all available data I've seen disagrees with you. https://wordpress.org/40-percent-of-web/ https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress It's not just small sites. A bunch of major publications use WordPress too. Forbes and TechCrunch both use WordPress for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) also downvotes aren't supposed to be used just because you disagree with someone's opinion. Your comments seem like a typical redditor so please just go back to Reddit if you're going to use downvotes that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) i hope you enjoy all of your "programming" with your garbage little "language" and POS word🤢press🤮 p.s. notice how everyone who argues in favor of php and wordpress ONLY know that language and framework? lol I don't use PHP any more... I primarily use C#. I can still see the advantages of PHP without it being a language I use day-to-day. wordpress does not power 40% of the web... Do you have any data that proves otherwise? Because all available data I've seen disagrees with you. https://wordpress.org/40-percent-of-web/ https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress It's not just small sites. A bunch of major publications use WordPress too. Forbes and TechCrunch both use WordPress for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) also downvotes aren't supposed to be used just because you disagree with someone's opinion. Your comments seem like a typical redditor so please just go back to Reddit if you're going to use downvotes that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) i hope you enjoy all of your "programming" with your garbage little "language" and POS word🤢press🤮 p.s. notice how everyone who argues in favor of php and wordpress ONLY know that language and framework? lol I don't use PHP any more... I primarily use C#. I can still see the advantages of PHP without it being a language I use day-to-day. wordpress does not power 40% of the web... Do you have any data that proves otherwise? Because all available data I've seen disagrees with you. https://wordpress.org/40-percent-of-web/ https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress It's not just small sites. A bunch of major publications use WordPress too. Forbes and TechCrunch both use WordPress for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) also downvotes aren't supposed to be used just because you disagree with someone's opinion. Your comments seem like a typical redditor so please just go back to Reddit if you're going to use downvotes that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is literally a decade old article with basically 1 complaint that sometimes functions are strpos() and sometimes str_len(). Anything else it's saying is "I don't even know how to say it". Really now? Any of your complaints have been fixed since about a decade ago, so why don't you give it a try? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm a full-stack web developer and am involved all the way through including cloud infrastructure, API development, database creation/maintenance, test automation, architecture etc. I guess what makes a "developer" in your context different? Embedded? Kernel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dabu@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Only those who code in the same language as I am can be called developers. Everyone else is just an impostor and their technology doesn't matter! Real programmers use my language of choice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DichotoDeezNutz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If you don't daily x86 assembly, do you even know anything about computers? permalink fedilink source parent [–] einsteinx2@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Have you heard about our lord and savior Rust? 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dabu@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Only those who code in the same language as I am can be called developers. Everyone else is just an impostor and their technology doesn't matter! Real programmers use my language of choice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DichotoDeezNutz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If you don't daily x86 assembly, do you even know anything about computers? permalink fedilink source parent [–] einsteinx2@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Have you heard about our lord and savior Rust? 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DichotoDeezNutz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If you don't daily x86 assembly, do you even know anything about computers? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] einsteinx2@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Have you heard about our lord and savior Rust? 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scorpionix@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago Just like my $variables I can be anything I want. Deal with it! 🫳🎤 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] astraeus@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) As if webapps aren’t usurping mobile and desktop apps, anything not C# or .NET is a toy language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Scooters are more efficient, get you where you need to go and cost less to maintain. Your analogy is actually pretty good in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Now you’re throwing ad hominem around. You don’t need to be toxic to communicate your point, web development did at one point have a lot of growing to do and I can admit that there is still plenty of progress to be made. In 2024 however, ignoring the web ecosystem as any type of developer is purely traditionalist elitism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] anzo@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Please refrain of using offensive words, specially if you are trying to actually communicate an idea that is by all means demeaning to other people. The community is about humour, keep that in mind ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] metaballism@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So if I'm using Rust to write a web app that compiles to WebAsm, what am I? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] xor@infosec.pub -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Scooters are more efficient, get you where you need to go and cost less to maintain. Your analogy is actually pretty good in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Now you’re throwing ad hominem around. You don’t need to be toxic to communicate your point, web development did at one point have a lot of growing to do and I can admit that there is still plenty of progress to be made. In 2024 however, ignoring the web ecosystem as any type of developer is purely traditionalist elitism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] anzo@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Please refrain of using offensive words, specially if you are trying to actually communicate an idea that is by all means demeaning to other people. The community is about humour, keep that in mind ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] metaballism@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So if I'm using Rust to write a web app that compiles to WebAsm, what am I? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Scooters are more efficient, get you where you need to go and cost less to maintain. Your analogy is actually pretty good in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Now you’re throwing ad hominem around. You don’t need to be toxic to communicate your point, web development did at one point have a lot of growing to do and I can admit that there is still plenty of progress to be made. In 2024 however, ignoring the web ecosystem as any type of developer is purely traditionalist elitism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] anzo@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Please refrain of using offensive words, specially if you are trying to actually communicate an idea that is by all means demeaning to other people. The community is about humour, keep that in mind ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] xor@infosec.pub -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Now you’re throwing ad hominem around. You don’t need to be toxic to communicate your point, web development did at one point have a lot of growing to do and I can admit that there is still plenty of progress to be made. In 2024 however, ignoring the web ecosystem as any type of developer is purely traditionalist elitism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] anzo@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Please refrain of using offensive words, specially if you are trying to actually communicate an idea that is by all means demeaning to other people. The community is about humour, keep that in mind ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Now you’re throwing ad hominem around. You don’t need to be toxic to communicate your point, web development did at one point have a lot of growing to do and I can admit that there is still plenty of progress to be made. In 2024 however, ignoring the web ecosystem as any type of developer is purely traditionalist elitism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] anzo@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Please refrain of using offensive words, specially if you are trying to actually communicate an idea that is by all means demeaning to other people. The community is about humour, keep that in mind ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] metaballism@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So if I'm using Rust to write a web app that compiles to WebAsm, what am I? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago To be fair, we do develop stuff. Nothing implies quality, so it’s not like we’re misrepresenting anything. Personally, anyone who calls themselves a software engineer and works with any web-related technology (PHP, JavaScript, etc) are the ones to be shunned. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] weevai@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 🖕 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xor@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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