They have approximately now lost over 5000 subscribers which equates to about $25000 per month or $300000 per year in lost revenue.

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[+] 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm condemning LMG like the next guy, but it would be good to reserve judgement until after the reports are published, at which point we can assess whether the investigation was done impartially or was biased and tampered with. The reality is, we just don't have any evidence for either side, aside from testimonials. I'm interested in seeing what comes out of the investigation and will raise hell if the investigation is not properly conducted.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is social media, not a court of law. My standard of determination on where my money goes and what content I watch doesn't need to be beyond a reasonable doubt.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Those people can simply resubscribe if LTT is exonerated so it's not like it's a death sentence.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They never said people can't do that, but saying that the investigation with be bad before it has even started is just jumping to conclusions.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There are so many stories about them having a toxic workplace. Happy employees generally don't record all hands meetings on sensitive subjects, which occured after that onr employee left. It's pretty safe to say it's a toxic environment and investigations will simply reveal the degree of toxicity. I don't blame anyone who wants to donate money to toxic people.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Allegations kickstart an investigative process to validate or invalidate a claim. I'm not at all saying that the allegations might not be true (before anyone misconstrues my position). But saying "it's pretty safe to say it's s toxic environnement and investigating will reveal the degree of toxicity" is jumping to conclusions.

    Allegations and stories are NOT evidence. They are claims that need to be verified. This is why, before the days of DNA testing, so many people were wrongly convicted.

    The probability is high that LMG has institutional toxicity. I'm just saying to allow for due process before passing judgement. And once everything is on the table, go HAM.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    They have responded poorly to some of the allegations. This isn't some court system where exemplary evidence is required for conviction. If I think people are acting sketchy then I don't really care about supporting them.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And that's your prerogative lol. I just personally choose to follow due process prior to judgement. Otherwise, I would be repeating the same mistake Linus did (continuously), which is a pre-mature emotional response. Doesn't mean it has to be followed by everyone, and vice versa.

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  • [+] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    You seem to lean on a number of mis-assumptions to drive your rage-driven response. As such you prove my point exactly.

    I said due process. You equate that to a legal context and legal system. I never referenced the legal system because I know full well the shortcomings of a justice system. They are not designed to seek truth but to right the wronged. The legal system is flawed.

    I don't know how to respond to the remainder of your post, because again, they are made based on assumptions of things that I did not even reference in my comments. Rape victims and abusers? Linus and James in chains?

    Literally all I was advocating for is that I personally prefer to follow through a process before passing judgement. If you really want to know my position on the matter, you can read my comment history, instead of making assumptions on a single comment. This is exactly what I mean by emotional response, and is no different than Linus' outburst.

    Edit: it seems from your comment history you've also misconstrued other people's comments. It may be good to take a step back and look at things objectively, or risk repeating the exact same mistake Linus made. To quote you: do better.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    (which drove a kid and his mom to suicide before)

    Wait, what? Do you have a link to anything about this?

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  • [+] 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    It's worse than that. Due to a mix-up with his MCN, he never rightfully received his play button. The kid decided to give it back, but because he was so nice about it, Linus told him to keep it and rebadge it with his own channel name. The community still harassed him.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm confused, how is that Linus's fault?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's not, but reddit is wild on this and brings up excuses like "he should have made a video showing they're best friends" or whatever.

    Linus did actually tweeted and talked a couple of minutes in a WAN show pleading his fanbase to leave this kid alone, but for reddit it was not enough.

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  • [+] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    While I don't think it's Linus' fault that other people act like that, I do think he bears some responsibility in who and how he names people in his videos. A bit more consideration is necessary. It hasn't come up a lot; Maybe the pool install company that screwed him over.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Was the Mindchop channel about video games? If so I recall watching a video about the NCIX auctions. I recall the mission being to buy back the youtube play button from Linus' early days there.

    I was watching due to the local uproar in the media of all of the customer data on the servers being sold to the highest bidder at the time. Being a former customer of NCIX for my personal system builds I wasn't excited about this.

    I thought this guy was an adult if it is the same thing I was thinking about. It was spun as the guy built a cool smaller channel and couldn't get his play button for reasons I didn't understand and at the time of the video Linus decided the guy should have it as his channel was pretty cool. Since I wasn't a rabid LTT viewer I never saw anything more about it and honestly I probably didn't see another LTT video for a while after that.

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