▲ 1455 ▼ Anon talks about Joe Rogan (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 years ago by mvmike@lemmy.ml to c/greentext@lemmy.ml 156 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children) They're not wrong. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (7 children) Nah they are wrong, Joe isn't a dumb guy, he's not doing what he's doing because he's some dumb meathead, he's doing it for money, fame, and to finally be part of the in-groups, which means power, he finally has a president(Trump) that accepts him and hob knobs with him. Joe has always been a cynical self serving libertarian type, if you went back and listened or watched some of his old standup comedy you would get a better idea of how far Rogan has fallen, he's become a lot of what he hated. There was a time when people used to think that Joe would be the next George Carlin, now he's just a more palatable and successful Alex Jones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) You're reading way too much into it, his original stand up was never clever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said it was clever? Joe didn't do clever comedy Joe did angry and cynical observational and political comedy. I'm not trying to call him clever or smart at all, he just isn't as dumb as the meathead everybody tries to make him out to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) You said: "Joe isn't a dumb guy". So, he's not dumb, or clever, he just is. Like a rock. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why do you keep trying to put your words in my mouth? If that's what I wanted to say I would have said it, but I didn't. I get that you want me to see things how you want me to see things but I don't, so how about just taking my words at face value? Again, Joe isn't dumb, he's not being manipulated, and he absolutely knows who and what he's inviting onto his show and what affect they will have both in the broader media and to his critics and fans, Joe is just being a greedy self serving fuckwad, and it's working well for him so far. You can underestimate your enemies on your own, but don't try to force me to make the same mistake you're making. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago I just quoted you. We disagree completely though, nothing about the way he presents himself suggests to me that this is calculated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Clever isn't intelligence, you can be average or smart and not clever. You can also be a bit dumb but also a bit clever. They are 2 qualities that can interact but are nonetheless separate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago They are synonyms, at least where I am (the UK): https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/intelligent permalink fedilink source parent [–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It wasn't even good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago Haha holy shit, it's wild to even see Joe and George in the same sentance. It's like thinking maybe the PT Cruiser could be the spiritual successor to the 1967 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 😂 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lurk99777@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've watched Joe's old comedy and shows he's been on (Opie and Anthony) and don't remember anyone thinking he would be the next Carlin. Lewis Black and Jon Stewart I could see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bucket_of_Truth@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Louis CK is the most Carlin like imo. His bits on O&A were pure genius. Rogan's comedy is garbage tier. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FoxAndKitten@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) He's not an idiot or anything, but he's pretty ignorant about a lot of topics, particularly science. He's quick on the uptake, but he isn't good at understanding how things fit together That's fine, it's a fantastic way to do interviews. It's a stand-in for the audience - he says "I'm a dumb guy good at punching, so can you break it down really simple?" People that are sharp don't feel patronized, and people that are actually dumb feel it's much more approachable The problem is somewhere along the way, Joe started believing people were there for him and not the guest, and he started doing more talking and less listening when he doesn't agree with what's being said (especially since he has some pretty bad takes) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago he's pretty ignorant about a lot of topics Not that uncommon among standup comedians. Comics tend to view everything through the lens of "how can I get a joke out of this?" which is not a good mindset for trying to separate truth from bullshit. Even George Carlin said dumb shit from time to time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* People always think people they disagree with are more Machiavellian than they usually are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unreachable@lemmy.my.id 1 point 2 years ago* something something long something something hero, something something villain permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchyrabbit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Alex Jones is pushing it a bit but I get what you are saying permalink fedilink source parent [–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) We need to know though, how good is Joe with a bow on a horse? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Lol, it kinda reminds me of Joe's whole "we've never seen a gorilla at peak gorilla" take. Joe is short, abuses steroids, probably isn't too flexible, I can definitely see him falling off of the horse a lot while trying to shoot a bow from it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Joe is a thumb and you don't really use your thumb in archery. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (7 children) Nah they are wrong, Joe isn't a dumb guy, he's not doing what he's doing because he's some dumb meathead, he's doing it for money, fame, and to finally be part of the in-groups, which means power, he finally has a president(Trump) that accepts him and hob knobs with him. Joe has always been a cynical self serving libertarian type, if you went back and listened or watched some of his old standup comedy you would get a better idea of how far Rogan has fallen, he's become a lot of what he hated. There was a time when people used to think that Joe would be the next George Carlin, now he's just a more palatable and successful Alex Jones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) You're reading way too much into it, his original stand up was never clever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said it was clever? Joe didn't do clever comedy Joe did angry and cynical observational and political comedy. I'm not trying to call him clever or smart at all, he just isn't as dumb as the meathead everybody tries to make him out to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) You said: "Joe isn't a dumb guy". So, he's not dumb, or clever, he just is. Like a rock. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why do you keep trying to put your words in my mouth? If that's what I wanted to say I would have said it, but I didn't. I get that you want me to see things how you want me to see things but I don't, so how about just taking my words at face value? Again, Joe isn't dumb, he's not being manipulated, and he absolutely knows who and what he's inviting onto his show and what affect they will have both in the broader media and to his critics and fans, Joe is just being a greedy self serving fuckwad, and it's working well for him so far. You can underestimate your enemies on your own, but don't try to force me to make the same mistake you're making. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago I just quoted you. We disagree completely though, nothing about the way he presents himself suggests to me that this is calculated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Clever isn't intelligence, you can be average or smart and not clever. You can also be a bit dumb but also a bit clever. They are 2 qualities that can interact but are nonetheless separate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago They are synonyms, at least where I am (the UK): https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/intelligent permalink fedilink source parent [–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It wasn't even good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago Haha holy shit, it's wild to even see Joe and George in the same sentance. It's like thinking maybe the PT Cruiser could be the spiritual successor to the 1967 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 😂 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lurk99777@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've watched Joe's old comedy and shows he's been on (Opie and Anthony) and don't remember anyone thinking he would be the next Carlin. Lewis Black and Jon Stewart I could see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bucket_of_Truth@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Louis CK is the most Carlin like imo. His bits on O&A were pure genius. Rogan's comedy is garbage tier. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FoxAndKitten@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) He's not an idiot or anything, but he's pretty ignorant about a lot of topics, particularly science. He's quick on the uptake, but he isn't good at understanding how things fit together That's fine, it's a fantastic way to do interviews. It's a stand-in for the audience - he says "I'm a dumb guy good at punching, so can you break it down really simple?" People that are sharp don't feel patronized, and people that are actually dumb feel it's much more approachable The problem is somewhere along the way, Joe started believing people were there for him and not the guest, and he started doing more talking and less listening when he doesn't agree with what's being said (especially since he has some pretty bad takes) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago he's pretty ignorant about a lot of topics Not that uncommon among standup comedians. Comics tend to view everything through the lens of "how can I get a joke out of this?" which is not a good mindset for trying to separate truth from bullshit. Even George Carlin said dumb shit from time to time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* People always think people they disagree with are more Machiavellian than they usually are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unreachable@lemmy.my.id 1 point 2 years ago* something something long something something hero, something something villain permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchyrabbit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Alex Jones is pushing it a bit but I get what you are saying permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) You're reading way too much into it, his original stand up was never clever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said it was clever? Joe didn't do clever comedy Joe did angry and cynical observational and political comedy. I'm not trying to call him clever or smart at all, he just isn't as dumb as the meathead everybody tries to make him out to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) You said: "Joe isn't a dumb guy". So, he's not dumb, or clever, he just is. Like a rock. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why do you keep trying to put your words in my mouth? If that's what I wanted to say I would have said it, but I didn't. I get that you want me to see things how you want me to see things but I don't, so how about just taking my words at face value? Again, Joe isn't dumb, he's not being manipulated, and he absolutely knows who and what he's inviting onto his show and what affect they will have both in the broader media and to his critics and fans, Joe is just being a greedy self serving fuckwad, and it's working well for him so far. You can underestimate your enemies on your own, but don't try to force me to make the same mistake you're making. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago I just quoted you. We disagree completely though, nothing about the way he presents himself suggests to me that this is calculated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Clever isn't intelligence, you can be average or smart and not clever. You can also be a bit dumb but also a bit clever. They are 2 qualities that can interact but are nonetheless separate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago They are synonyms, at least where I am (the UK): https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/intelligent permalink fedilink source parent [–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It wasn't even good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who said it was clever? Joe didn't do clever comedy Joe did angry and cynical observational and political comedy. I'm not trying to call him clever or smart at all, he just isn't as dumb as the meathead everybody tries to make him out to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) You said: "Joe isn't a dumb guy". So, he's not dumb, or clever, he just is. Like a rock. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why do you keep trying to put your words in my mouth? If that's what I wanted to say I would have said it, but I didn't. I get that you want me to see things how you want me to see things but I don't, so how about just taking my words at face value? Again, Joe isn't dumb, he's not being manipulated, and he absolutely knows who and what he's inviting onto his show and what affect they will have both in the broader media and to his critics and fans, Joe is just being a greedy self serving fuckwad, and it's working well for him so far. You can underestimate your enemies on your own, but don't try to force me to make the same mistake you're making. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago I just quoted you. We disagree completely though, nothing about the way he presents himself suggests to me that this is calculated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Clever isn't intelligence, you can be average or smart and not clever. You can also be a bit dumb but also a bit clever. They are 2 qualities that can interact but are nonetheless separate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago They are synonyms, at least where I am (the UK): https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/intelligent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) You said: "Joe isn't a dumb guy". So, he's not dumb, or clever, he just is. Like a rock. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why do you keep trying to put your words in my mouth? If that's what I wanted to say I would have said it, but I didn't. I get that you want me to see things how you want me to see things but I don't, so how about just taking my words at face value? Again, Joe isn't dumb, he's not being manipulated, and he absolutely knows who and what he's inviting onto his show and what affect they will have both in the broader media and to his critics and fans, Joe is just being a greedy self serving fuckwad, and it's working well for him so far. You can underestimate your enemies on your own, but don't try to force me to make the same mistake you're making. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago I just quoted you. We disagree completely though, nothing about the way he presents himself suggests to me that this is calculated. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Clever isn't intelligence, you can be average or smart and not clever. You can also be a bit dumb but also a bit clever. They are 2 qualities that can interact but are nonetheless separate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago They are synonyms, at least where I am (the UK): https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/intelligent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why do you keep trying to put your words in my mouth? If that's what I wanted to say I would have said it, but I didn't. I get that you want me to see things how you want me to see things but I don't, so how about just taking my words at face value? Again, Joe isn't dumb, he's not being manipulated, and he absolutely knows who and what he's inviting onto his show and what affect they will have both in the broader media and to his critics and fans, Joe is just being a greedy self serving fuckwad, and it's working well for him so far. You can underestimate your enemies on your own, but don't try to force me to make the same mistake you're making. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago I just quoted you. We disagree completely though, nothing about the way he presents himself suggests to me that this is calculated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago I just quoted you. We disagree completely though, nothing about the way he presents himself suggests to me that this is calculated. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Clever isn't intelligence, you can be average or smart and not clever. You can also be a bit dumb but also a bit clever. They are 2 qualities that can interact but are nonetheless separate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago They are synonyms, at least where I am (the UK): https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/intelligent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago They are synonyms, at least where I am (the UK): https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/intelligent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago Haha holy shit, it's wild to even see Joe and George in the same sentance. It's like thinking maybe the PT Cruiser could be the spiritual successor to the 1967 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 😂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lurk99777@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've watched Joe's old comedy and shows he's been on (Opie and Anthony) and don't remember anyone thinking he would be the next Carlin. Lewis Black and Jon Stewart I could see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bucket_of_Truth@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Louis CK is the most Carlin like imo. His bits on O&A were pure genius. Rogan's comedy is garbage tier. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bucket_of_Truth@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Louis CK is the most Carlin like imo. His bits on O&A were pure genius. Rogan's comedy is garbage tier. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FoxAndKitten@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) He's not an idiot or anything, but he's pretty ignorant about a lot of topics, particularly science. He's quick on the uptake, but he isn't good at understanding how things fit together That's fine, it's a fantastic way to do interviews. It's a stand-in for the audience - he says "I'm a dumb guy good at punching, so can you break it down really simple?" People that are sharp don't feel patronized, and people that are actually dumb feel it's much more approachable The problem is somewhere along the way, Joe started believing people were there for him and not the guest, and he started doing more talking and less listening when he doesn't agree with what's being said (especially since he has some pretty bad takes) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago he's pretty ignorant about a lot of topics Not that uncommon among standup comedians. Comics tend to view everything through the lens of "how can I get a joke out of this?" which is not a good mindset for trying to separate truth from bullshit. Even George Carlin said dumb shit from time to time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago he's pretty ignorant about a lot of topics Not that uncommon among standup comedians. Comics tend to view everything through the lens of "how can I get a joke out of this?" which is not a good mindset for trying to separate truth from bullshit. Even George Carlin said dumb shit from time to time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* People always think people they disagree with are more Machiavellian than they usually are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unreachable@lemmy.my.id 1 point 2 years ago* something something long something something hero, something something villain permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchyrabbit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Alex Jones is pushing it a bit but I get what you are saying permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) We need to know though, how good is Joe with a bow on a horse? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Lol, it kinda reminds me of Joe's whole "we've never seen a gorilla at peak gorilla" take. Joe is short, abuses steroids, probably isn't too flexible, I can definitely see him falling off of the horse a lot while trying to shoot a bow from it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Joe is a thumb and you don't really use your thumb in archery. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Lol, it kinda reminds me of Joe's whole "we've never seen a gorilla at peak gorilla" take. Joe is short, abuses steroids, probably isn't too flexible, I can definitely see him falling off of the horse a lot while trying to shoot a bow from it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Joe is a thumb and you don't really use your thumb in archery. permalink fedilink source parent
