▲ 1019 ▼ Nintendo sues Switch emulator Yuzu for ‘facilitating piracy at a colossal scale’ (www.theverge.com) submitted 2 years ago by ardi60@reddthat.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 302 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well switch already have DRM. Except circumventing DRM for archiving purpose is totally legal. This lawsuit is groundless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Circumventing DRM for archiving is not totally legal in all circumstances: https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/9rfezi/us_copyright_office_gives_the_okay_to_circumvent/ I know, it's a reddit link, but OP does a good job summarizing and providing sources. Anyway, videogames are specifically called out. Essentially, if you're circumventing DRM for emulation for games that are still current and actively supported by their publishers/devs, it is not legal. However, if you're circumventing DRM to repair/troubleshoot/diagnose your console, that's kosher (whole right-to-repair stance). So it isn't completely black and white. Yuzu devs will have a tough case ahead of them depending on what all evidence Nintendo has gathered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nialv7@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, you are right and I was somewhat misinformed. That been said, yuzu isn't the one doing circumventing is it? It doesn't provide tools for dumping games or anything. It's just an emulator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Correct, but we don't know what all has taken place over the years regarding Discord chats, forum posts, etc. where one of the devs might have accidentally incriminated themselves/the project. That's what I meant by it depends what kind of evidence Nintendo has gathered. I'm assuming there's a reason Nintendo waited as long as they have to go after them, seeing as Yuzu has been quite famous for a long time and it seems as of they're not also going after Ryujinx (or maybe they're not just yet?). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Circumventing DRM for archiving is not totally legal in all circumstances: https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/9rfezi/us_copyright_office_gives_the_okay_to_circumvent/ I know, it's a reddit link, but OP does a good job summarizing and providing sources. Anyway, videogames are specifically called out. Essentially, if you're circumventing DRM for emulation for games that are still current and actively supported by their publishers/devs, it is not legal. However, if you're circumventing DRM to repair/troubleshoot/diagnose your console, that's kosher (whole right-to-repair stance). So it isn't completely black and white. Yuzu devs will have a tough case ahead of them depending on what all evidence Nintendo has gathered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nialv7@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, you are right and I was somewhat misinformed. That been said, yuzu isn't the one doing circumventing is it? It doesn't provide tools for dumping games or anything. It's just an emulator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Correct, but we don't know what all has taken place over the years regarding Discord chats, forum posts, etc. where one of the devs might have accidentally incriminated themselves/the project. That's what I meant by it depends what kind of evidence Nintendo has gathered. I'm assuming there's a reason Nintendo waited as long as they have to go after them, seeing as Yuzu has been quite famous for a long time and it seems as of they're not also going after Ryujinx (or maybe they're not just yet?). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, you are right and I was somewhat misinformed. That been said, yuzu isn't the one doing circumventing is it? It doesn't provide tools for dumping games or anything. It's just an emulator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Correct, but we don't know what all has taken place over the years regarding Discord chats, forum posts, etc. where one of the devs might have accidentally incriminated themselves/the project. That's what I meant by it depends what kind of evidence Nintendo has gathered. I'm assuming there's a reason Nintendo waited as long as they have to go after them, seeing as Yuzu has been quite famous for a long time and it seems as of they're not also going after Ryujinx (or maybe they're not just yet?). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Correct, but we don't know what all has taken place over the years regarding Discord chats, forum posts, etc. where one of the devs might have accidentally incriminated themselves/the project. That's what I meant by it depends what kind of evidence Nintendo has gathered. I'm assuming there's a reason Nintendo waited as long as they have to go after them, seeing as Yuzu has been quite famous for a long time and it seems as of they're not also going after Ryujinx (or maybe they're not just yet?). permalink fedilink source parent