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Ex-Linus Tech Tips employee alleges mistreatment and poor conditions: “no one gets a break” - Dexerto (www.dexerto.com)

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 224 points 3 years ago (3 children)

I don't see how this surprises anyone. As soon as the handbook was leaked I just knew it was a shit place. Why? Cause I work at a shit place and they do the same shit. Shitty people rip shitty policies and implement them shittily. Linus doesn't care, he wants profit.

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[+] traveler@lemdro.id 63 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 62 points 3 years ago (3 children)

So why can't employees talk about pay? Thats just an accidental whoopsie? According to the handbook they have to demonetize their channels if they have youtube channels. Guess thats just another accident? No, its malicious squashing of could-be competition while simulteanously putting their positions on a pedestal. Its classic capitalist tactics.

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[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 35 points 3 years ago (1 child)

He's terrified that his employees are going to do to him, what he did at his last place...

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[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 24 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Yep, he basically built his empire off the back of his employer. LTT basically uses NCIX inventory for their early videos.

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[–] dman87@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

That's not totally accurate. It was initially a symbiotic relationship. Linus was providing marketing for NCIX as well in the early days. That does not detract from the reality that LTT would be nothing without the early support of NCIX.

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[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 15 points 3 years ago*

They can't even say that.. law trumps contract. I had to look that up for vancouver, but..

"employers in B.C. cannot dismiss, suspend, demote, discipline or harass an employee who:

Asks their employer about their pay
Reveals their pay to another employee or someone applying to work with their employer
Asks the employer about its pay transparency report
Gives information to the Director of Pay Transparency about their employer"

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/gender-equity/pay-transparency-laws-in-bc

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[+] traveler@lemdro.id -6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Thats not a reason for cloak and dagger tactics. If that employee deserves more pay for the skill and effort they put in it should be announced loudly like they hold the Galaga high score at the local arcade. There is no reason to obfuscate pay unless your employer is being dishonest. Like mine is. I live this dude, everyday. Its all a package deal thats easier to spot than santa clause at a strip joint.

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[–] Sax_Offender@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago

it should be announced loudly like they hold the Galaga high score at the local arcade

Hello, fellow old person.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago*

This is the worst take on this matter. No, you should be honest. If that upsets people because they aren't performing you can use that as an opportunity to figure out why they aren't doing well. This should be a mutually beneficial thing. But because people are salty, and because it feels like (feels like, not is) its easier to just hire a new person and toss the current one this leads to employers opting for the cost of a high turn over and bad feelings all around. Dishonesty only pays if you don't think about it at all.

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Abusers often don't know they are being an abuser.

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[–] utopianrevolt@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Does that occur more happen than abusers who don't care if they are? I don't know anyone from LTT personally, but I don't necessarily get the feeling that Linus doesn't care. To your point, ignorance doesn't excuse abuse, but I think it's an important distinction to make regardless.

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[–] JokklMaster@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago

This is a valid point because I think it affects openness to change. Linus may be a dumbass in some regards, but I'd be willing to bet he's open to change.

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[–] ineedaunion@lemm.ee -2 points 3 years ago

That's bootlicker talk.

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[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 53 points 3 years ago (1 child)

So much truth. Look at the guy. How is front facing persona is. You know it’s some egomaniac that’s just like fuck you I need more.

It’s funny because publicly, he’s been disapproving of her in photos, chat. Like the look he’s giving her here, urgh.

It honestly sounds like my last job. Unprofessionalism in all its finest with nothing but favouritism, big egos and zero agency or responsibility given. All with endless work in tow. Yup. Good times 🙂🔫

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (1 child)

I'm there right now, lemmer, and let me tell 'ya; Fucken shoot me. I am a hamster on a wheel.

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[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 years ago

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/12/b8/2e/12b82eeba8a286f894257589380caee1.jpg

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[–] million@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago (1 child)

What handbook?

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[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 26 points 3 years ago (3 children)

https://pdfhost.io/v/YuYw8GOm0_LMG_Policy_Handbook

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[–] Duxon@feddit.de 86 points 3 years ago (3 children)

No vacation days in the first 12 months. Then 2 weeks of vacation per year, three weeks after 5 years of consecutive employment.

Damn, I'm happy to live and work in Europe right now, assuming that these are comparable numbers across the North American job landscape.

"Linus Media Group believes that vacation is a necessary opportunity for people to relax, refresh and recharge." LMAO

The rules on sick leave look quite awful as well.

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[–] I_hate_you_welcome@feddit.nl 26 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Jesus, I get 5 weeks instantly every year and I can buy more with salary

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[–] giant_smeeg@feddit.uk 10 points 3 years ago

Yeah insane. Land of the freee

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[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

In the US, or somewhere sensible?

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[–] I_hate_you_welcome@feddit.nl 16 points 3 years ago

Somewhere sensible, with unions and such

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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago

Oh, it's worse here in the US. Much worse.

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[–] KonekoSalem@lemm.ee 12 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Some people have pointed out, that this seems to be a normal vacation policy within Canada. Still a shitty policy, but I wouldn't put the majority blame on LMG for this specific issue.

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[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 13 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

They’re entirely to blame for it at LMG.

I highly doubt Canada has a law against doing more than the bare legal minimum.

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[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

Why not blame Canada for their shitty laws? If you had a business, you might just be doing the same

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[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Because Linus controls LMG, he can’t change the laws of Canada but he can offer more than he is.

And no I wouldn’t. If I owned a business, I wouldn’t because I’d have made it a worker run co-op. Not everyone is a greedy capitalist parasite.

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[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago

There's a reason the absolutely majority of businesses isn't run like that, and it's not because all people suck.

Two reasons, actually.

These people (who do not suck) often don't really have what it takes to run a successful business. It's a hard endeavor, especially in the beginning, and often if you don't do the bare minimum, you die.
As you grow, having 10 clashing opinions is a paralyzing disaster for a company. Solution is to have a CEO/owner whatever, one voice to rule, but at that point, is it really that co-op you dream about?

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[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago

This is the minimum is Canada, but 3-4 week is more common in many industries. So if they could give less, they probably would.

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago

You're literally required to report bullying to management, but apparently the response is someone telling you to stop being such a bitch.

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[–] darharrison@lemm.ee 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Some of this is very boilerplate handbook wording but I gotta say some of these benefits are very average at best, especially the time off situation. This is from the perspective of a US government worker, where I regularly see my friends get hired in the private sector and receive much better time off.

And at least in southern New England, there's some straight up illegal rules in here, notably discussion of wages. Around here you cannot be ordered by anyone not to disclose what you make.

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[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

The time off situation is literally just the bare minimum legal amount in Canada.

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[–] darharrison@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago

I think the policy is pretty weak for such a well-loved (up until this week) company. Guess that's the way the industry works: put up with mediocre pay and benefits because you're "doing what you love," or if I'm feeling really jaded I'd say something like "abusing the workers' passions for the industry."

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