▲ 318 ▼ The Google Pay app is shutting down in the US (www.androidpolice.com) submitted 2 years ago by catculation@lemmy.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world 173 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 85 points 2 years ago (3 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children) How long until they change 8.8.8.8 and break half the internet permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm just waiting for them to figure out how to inject ads into DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think they could 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) It would be trivially easy. Request for www.taylorswift.com Return IP to client for a dynamically created temporary web page that shows a Ticketmaster.com ad with a countdown of 10 seconds and javascript redirect to the actual taylorswift.com IP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) But, HTTPS certificates. Unless they provided overrides for their ads in Chrome, but at that point why do it with DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 points 2 years ago* Google is way ahead of you, they are a certificate authority now, so in theory they can do this right now. Take a look at any site's https certificate and a significant portion of them are now signed by Google Trust Services LLC thanks to Cloudflare using them to generate free https certificates (in addition to letsencrypt). Note that they won't ever pull this trick though because it'll irreversibly damage their reputation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I think they wouldn't do that, since they could do the redirect within Chrome itself. The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, Yes that would be the purpose. but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. I agree, which is why I also agree with you why they haven't done it yet, but I was speaking to how they could do it, not the fallout from them doing so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It's too big to fail now. Advertisers hardcode it into their apps and iot devices to evade DNS adblockers for a while now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Plopp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Joke's on them, I block Google DNS in my router, and a bunch of DoH servers (fuck I hate DoH). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 4 points 2 years ago* DoH and DoT, originally developed to prevent ISP to tamper with DNS query to inject ads, now ironically used by advertisers to evade DNS-based blocking on their ads sdk and iot devices. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can we just sunset google altogether permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago don't forget alphabet, otherwise they just sunset google to launch gogol or some shit permalink fedilink source parent [+] TK420@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children) How long until they change 8.8.8.8 and break half the internet permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm just waiting for them to figure out how to inject ads into DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think they could 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) It would be trivially easy. Request for www.taylorswift.com Return IP to client for a dynamically created temporary web page that shows a Ticketmaster.com ad with a countdown of 10 seconds and javascript redirect to the actual taylorswift.com IP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) But, HTTPS certificates. Unless they provided overrides for their ads in Chrome, but at that point why do it with DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 points 2 years ago* Google is way ahead of you, they are a certificate authority now, so in theory they can do this right now. Take a look at any site's https certificate and a significant portion of them are now signed by Google Trust Services LLC thanks to Cloudflare using them to generate free https certificates (in addition to letsencrypt). Note that they won't ever pull this trick though because it'll irreversibly damage their reputation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I think they wouldn't do that, since they could do the redirect within Chrome itself. The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, Yes that would be the purpose. but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. I agree, which is why I also agree with you why they haven't done it yet, but I was speaking to how they could do it, not the fallout from them doing so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It's too big to fail now. Advertisers hardcode it into their apps and iot devices to evade DNS adblockers for a while now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Plopp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Joke's on them, I block Google DNS in my router, and a bunch of DoH servers (fuck I hate DoH). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 4 points 2 years ago* DoH and DoT, originally developed to prevent ISP to tamper with DNS query to inject ads, now ironically used by advertisers to evade DNS-based blocking on their ads sdk and iot devices. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm just waiting for them to figure out how to inject ads into DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think they could 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) It would be trivially easy. Request for www.taylorswift.com Return IP to client for a dynamically created temporary web page that shows a Ticketmaster.com ad with a countdown of 10 seconds and javascript redirect to the actual taylorswift.com IP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) But, HTTPS certificates. Unless they provided overrides for their ads in Chrome, but at that point why do it with DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 points 2 years ago* Google is way ahead of you, they are a certificate authority now, so in theory they can do this right now. Take a look at any site's https certificate and a significant portion of them are now signed by Google Trust Services LLC thanks to Cloudflare using them to generate free https certificates (in addition to letsencrypt). Note that they won't ever pull this trick though because it'll irreversibly damage their reputation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I think they wouldn't do that, since they could do the redirect within Chrome itself. The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, Yes that would be the purpose. but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. I agree, which is why I also agree with you why they haven't done it yet, but I was speaking to how they could do it, not the fallout from them doing so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think they could 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) It would be trivially easy. Request for www.taylorswift.com Return IP to client for a dynamically created temporary web page that shows a Ticketmaster.com ad with a countdown of 10 seconds and javascript redirect to the actual taylorswift.com IP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) But, HTTPS certificates. Unless they provided overrides for their ads in Chrome, but at that point why do it with DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 points 2 years ago* Google is way ahead of you, they are a certificate authority now, so in theory they can do this right now. Take a look at any site's https certificate and a significant portion of them are now signed by Google Trust Services LLC thanks to Cloudflare using them to generate free https certificates (in addition to letsencrypt). Note that they won't ever pull this trick though because it'll irreversibly damage their reputation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I think they wouldn't do that, since they could do the redirect within Chrome itself. The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, Yes that would be the purpose. but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. I agree, which is why I also agree with you why they haven't done it yet, but I was speaking to how they could do it, not the fallout from them doing so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) It would be trivially easy. Request for www.taylorswift.com Return IP to client for a dynamically created temporary web page that shows a Ticketmaster.com ad with a countdown of 10 seconds and javascript redirect to the actual taylorswift.com IP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) But, HTTPS certificates. Unless they provided overrides for their ads in Chrome, but at that point why do it with DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 points 2 years ago* Google is way ahead of you, they are a certificate authority now, so in theory they can do this right now. Take a look at any site's https certificate and a significant portion of them are now signed by Google Trust Services LLC thanks to Cloudflare using them to generate free https certificates (in addition to letsencrypt). Note that they won't ever pull this trick though because it'll irreversibly damage their reputation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I think they wouldn't do that, since they could do the redirect within Chrome itself. The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, Yes that would be the purpose. but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. I agree, which is why I also agree with you why they haven't done it yet, but I was speaking to how they could do it, not the fallout from them doing so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) But, HTTPS certificates. Unless they provided overrides for their ads in Chrome, but at that point why do it with DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 points 2 years ago* Google is way ahead of you, they are a certificate authority now, so in theory they can do this right now. Take a look at any site's https certificate and a significant portion of them are now signed by Google Trust Services LLC thanks to Cloudflare using them to generate free https certificates (in addition to letsencrypt). Note that they won't ever pull this trick though because it'll irreversibly damage their reputation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 points 2 years ago* Google is way ahead of you, they are a certificate authority now, so in theory they can do this right now. Take a look at any site's https certificate and a significant portion of them are now signed by Google Trust Services LLC thanks to Cloudflare using them to generate free https certificates (in addition to letsencrypt). Note that they won't ever pull this trick though because it'll irreversibly damage their reputation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I think they wouldn't do that, since they could do the redirect within Chrome itself. The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, Yes that would be the purpose. but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. I agree, which is why I also agree with you why they haven't done it yet, but I was speaking to how they could do it, not the fallout from them doing so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, Yes that would be the purpose. but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell. I agree, which is why I also agree with you why they haven't done it yet, but I was speaking to how they could do it, not the fallout from them doing so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It's too big to fail now. Advertisers hardcode it into their apps and iot devices to evade DNS adblockers for a while now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Plopp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Joke's on them, I block Google DNS in my router, and a bunch of DoH servers (fuck I hate DoH). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 4 points 2 years ago* DoH and DoT, originally developed to prevent ISP to tamper with DNS query to inject ads, now ironically used by advertisers to evade DNS-based blocking on their ads sdk and iot devices. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Joke's on them, I block Google DNS in my router, and a bunch of DoH servers (fuck I hate DoH). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 4 points 2 years ago* DoH and DoT, originally developed to prevent ISP to tamper with DNS query to inject ads, now ironically used by advertisers to evade DNS-based blocking on their ads sdk and iot devices. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 4 points 2 years ago* DoH and DoT, originally developed to prevent ISP to tamper with DNS query to inject ads, now ironically used by advertisers to evade DNS-based blocking on their ads sdk and iot devices. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can we just sunset google altogether permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago don't forget alphabet, otherwise they just sunset google to launch gogol or some shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago don't forget alphabet, otherwise they just sunset google to launch gogol or some shit permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TK420@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
