▲ 290 ▼ Fetterman to Democrats criticizing Biden: ‘Get your MAGA hat’ (thehill.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 226 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] spider@lemmy.nz 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) 'Get your MAGA hat' He's got it backward and needs to look in the mirror. i.e., There are people who defend Trump, no matter what. and There are people who defend Biden, no matter what. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure, but we also have to realize that we live in a country with a two-party system and a winner-take-all electoral college. If you're not helping your candidate, you're helping the opponent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spider@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) we live in a country with a two-party system Although they're perpetually marginalized, we do have third-party candidates. Edit: Amusing how people downvote a neutral, factual statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago They'll never have a chance in a winner-take-all electoral college system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) You'll never convince 160 million people to vote 3rd party. So a vote for 3rd party is a vote for the most popular of the 2 candidates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No, a vote 3rd party is a vote against your most tolerable of the two viable candidates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago a vote for any candidate is a vote against all other candidates. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pedalmore@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The key here is that it's a vote for the most popular of the 2 candidates based on the votes of who bothered to vote for them specifically, then further butchered via the EC. It's a smaller, different pool of people that may elect someone that the actual majority prefer less, because part of the actual majority decided to play a different game entirely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago There's always some excuse for progressives to shut up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure, but we also have to realize that we live in a country with a two-party system and a winner-take-all electoral college. If you're not helping your candidate, you're helping the opponent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spider@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) we live in a country with a two-party system Although they're perpetually marginalized, we do have third-party candidates. Edit: Amusing how people downvote a neutral, factual statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago They'll never have a chance in a winner-take-all electoral college system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) You'll never convince 160 million people to vote 3rd party. So a vote for 3rd party is a vote for the most popular of the 2 candidates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No, a vote 3rd party is a vote against your most tolerable of the two viable candidates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago a vote for any candidate is a vote against all other candidates. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pedalmore@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The key here is that it's a vote for the most popular of the 2 candidates based on the votes of who bothered to vote for them specifically, then further butchered via the EC. It's a smaller, different pool of people that may elect someone that the actual majority prefer less, because part of the actual majority decided to play a different game entirely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago There's always some excuse for progressives to shut up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spider@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) we live in a country with a two-party system Although they're perpetually marginalized, we do have third-party candidates. Edit: Amusing how people downvote a neutral, factual statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago They'll never have a chance in a winner-take-all electoral college system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) You'll never convince 160 million people to vote 3rd party. So a vote for 3rd party is a vote for the most popular of the 2 candidates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No, a vote 3rd party is a vote against your most tolerable of the two viable candidates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago a vote for any candidate is a vote against all other candidates. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pedalmore@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The key here is that it's a vote for the most popular of the 2 candidates based on the votes of who bothered to vote for them specifically, then further butchered via the EC. It's a smaller, different pool of people that may elect someone that the actual majority prefer less, because part of the actual majority decided to play a different game entirely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago They'll never have a chance in a winner-take-all electoral college system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) You'll never convince 160 million people to vote 3rd party. So a vote for 3rd party is a vote for the most popular of the 2 candidates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No, a vote 3rd party is a vote against your most tolerable of the two viable candidates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago a vote for any candidate is a vote against all other candidates. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pedalmore@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The key here is that it's a vote for the most popular of the 2 candidates based on the votes of who bothered to vote for them specifically, then further butchered via the EC. It's a smaller, different pool of people that may elect someone that the actual majority prefer less, because part of the actual majority decided to play a different game entirely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No, a vote 3rd party is a vote against your most tolerable of the two viable candidates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago a vote for any candidate is a vote against all other candidates. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago a vote for any candidate is a vote against all other candidates. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pedalmore@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The key here is that it's a vote for the most popular of the 2 candidates based on the votes of who bothered to vote for them specifically, then further butchered via the EC. It's a smaller, different pool of people that may elect someone that the actual majority prefer less, because part of the actual majority decided to play a different game entirely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago There's always some excuse for progressives to shut up. permalink fedilink source parent