▲ 21 ▼ How can I safely share image/GIF? (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 years ago by someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 43 comments fedilink hide all child comments I want to share a picture or GIF with my friend on Telegram, but I don't want to do it directly. What can I use?
[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) Define "safely". That means different things to different people. Telegram has their secure chat, which is fully E2E. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Pantherina@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago Only on mobile, and hidden opt-in Better drop that BS platform permalink fedilink source parent [–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago It does, but it's in a very malicious fashion. You need to activate something called "Secret Chat" for a given chat conversation. Only then is it E2EE. Otherwise, it's unencrypted like discord n stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm going to come off as retarded but I have to ask: when did Signal get this bad rep? I remember not too long ago that it and Telegram were praised for their privacy practices. What happened for that to change? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago Signal requires a phone number. I'm not sure about telegram permalink fedilink source parent [–] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't trust telegram because they have closed servers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) And you still haven't answered the question. Define safely. We really can't help until we known what you're trying to do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just want the telegram to not have access to the photo. Otherwise, I would use other methods to transmit it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Theoretically, they don’t have access to the photos even though they’re running the server between. That’s what end to end encryption means, it’s encrypted on your end and decrypted on the recipients end. Unless the middle man in question retains both your and the recipients encryption keys, they can’t read the messages. This requires trusting the vendor in question. However the only alternative to trusting a vendor is not only purchasing your own equipment, but also deploying it on your property, and building and maintaining your own isolated physical connections between those locations. This is what nation states and militaries do, the US military has an entirely physically separate and independent “internet”. There’s a concept in information security not to spend more protecting information than that information is worth. Your gifs are probably not worth the effort of building your own infrastructure, unless you’re sending some highly sketchy content. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago Only on mobile, and hidden opt-in Better drop that BS platform permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago It does, but it's in a very malicious fashion. You need to activate something called "Secret Chat" for a given chat conversation. Only then is it E2EE. Otherwise, it's unencrypted like discord n stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm going to come off as retarded but I have to ask: when did Signal get this bad rep? I remember not too long ago that it and Telegram were praised for their privacy practices. What happened for that to change? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago Signal requires a phone number. I'm not sure about telegram permalink fedilink source parent
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago Signal requires a phone number. I'm not sure about telegram permalink fedilink source parent
[–] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't trust telegram because they have closed servers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) And you still haven't answered the question. Define safely. We really can't help until we known what you're trying to do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just want the telegram to not have access to the photo. Otherwise, I would use other methods to transmit it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Theoretically, they don’t have access to the photos even though they’re running the server between. That’s what end to end encryption means, it’s encrypted on your end and decrypted on the recipients end. Unless the middle man in question retains both your and the recipients encryption keys, they can’t read the messages. This requires trusting the vendor in question. However the only alternative to trusting a vendor is not only purchasing your own equipment, but also deploying it on your property, and building and maintaining your own isolated physical connections between those locations. This is what nation states and militaries do, the US military has an entirely physically separate and independent “internet”. There’s a concept in information security not to spend more protecting information than that information is worth. Your gifs are probably not worth the effort of building your own infrastructure, unless you’re sending some highly sketchy content. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) And you still haven't answered the question. Define safely. We really can't help until we known what you're trying to do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just want the telegram to not have access to the photo. Otherwise, I would use other methods to transmit it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Theoretically, they don’t have access to the photos even though they’re running the server between. That’s what end to end encryption means, it’s encrypted on your end and decrypted on the recipients end. Unless the middle man in question retains both your and the recipients encryption keys, they can’t read the messages. This requires trusting the vendor in question. However the only alternative to trusting a vendor is not only purchasing your own equipment, but also deploying it on your property, and building and maintaining your own isolated physical connections between those locations. This is what nation states and militaries do, the US military has an entirely physically separate and independent “internet”. There’s a concept in information security not to spend more protecting information than that information is worth. Your gifs are probably not worth the effort of building your own infrastructure, unless you’re sending some highly sketchy content. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just want the telegram to not have access to the photo. Otherwise, I would use other methods to transmit it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Theoretically, they don’t have access to the photos even though they’re running the server between. That’s what end to end encryption means, it’s encrypted on your end and decrypted on the recipients end. Unless the middle man in question retains both your and the recipients encryption keys, they can’t read the messages. This requires trusting the vendor in question. However the only alternative to trusting a vendor is not only purchasing your own equipment, but also deploying it on your property, and building and maintaining your own isolated physical connections between those locations. This is what nation states and militaries do, the US military has an entirely physically separate and independent “internet”. There’s a concept in information security not to spend more protecting information than that information is worth. Your gifs are probably not worth the effort of building your own infrastructure, unless you’re sending some highly sketchy content. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Theoretically, they don’t have access to the photos even though they’re running the server between. That’s what end to end encryption means, it’s encrypted on your end and decrypted on the recipients end. Unless the middle man in question retains both your and the recipients encryption keys, they can’t read the messages. This requires trusting the vendor in question. However the only alternative to trusting a vendor is not only purchasing your own equipment, but also deploying it on your property, and building and maintaining your own isolated physical connections between those locations. This is what nation states and militaries do, the US military has an entirely physically separate and independent “internet”. There’s a concept in information security not to spend more protecting information than that information is worth. Your gifs are probably not worth the effort of building your own infrastructure, unless you’re sending some highly sketchy content. permalink fedilink source parent