▲ 96 ▼ EU eIDAS: VPNs won't protect Europeans privacy if law passes, experts warn (www.techradar.com) submitted 2 years ago by CAVOK@lemmy.world to c/europe@feddit.de 11 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] NoLifeKing@ani.social 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, that was different. eIDAS is certificate based - those that care will just use a VPN to download a non-EU compliant browser build and only surf with the VPN on. At least that’s my plan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] NoLifeKing@ani.social 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) But it’s not spyware. The eIDAS law proposes that governments can insert certificates that spoof the originator. A subtle difference. I really hope Mozilla don’t comply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Still weakening encryption standards. It would force the inclusion of a "trusted root" into browsers & OSs with the purpose of allowing government entities to spoof certificates. As certificate pinning is becoming mainstream, I would assume it'll require browser & app vendors to weaken those controls too. You'd hope ECHR's prior ruling would block this too. For the exact same rationale. permalink fedilink source parent [+] NoLifeKing@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aelwero@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago No... That's spyware with less steps... Theres no cracking, hacking, Trojans etc. involved at all, it's a direct and straightforward addition of the spyware under color of the states authority. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gehrluke@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What would be a non-EU compliant browser? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’m expecting browser companies to offer EU citizens a browser with the eIDAS cert acceptance baked in but outside the EU as they are now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_third@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, that was different. eIDAS is certificate based - those that care will just use a VPN to download a non-EU compliant browser build and only surf with the VPN on. At least that’s my plan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] NoLifeKing@ani.social 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) But it’s not spyware. The eIDAS law proposes that governments can insert certificates that spoof the originator. A subtle difference. I really hope Mozilla don’t comply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Still weakening encryption standards. It would force the inclusion of a "trusted root" into browsers & OSs with the purpose of allowing government entities to spoof certificates. As certificate pinning is becoming mainstream, I would assume it'll require browser & app vendors to weaken those controls too. You'd hope ECHR's prior ruling would block this too. For the exact same rationale. permalink fedilink source parent [+] NoLifeKing@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aelwero@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago No... That's spyware with less steps... Theres no cracking, hacking, Trojans etc. involved at all, it's a direct and straightforward addition of the spyware under color of the states authority. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gehrluke@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What would be a non-EU compliant browser? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’m expecting browser companies to offer EU citizens a browser with the eIDAS cert acceptance baked in but outside the EU as they are now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_third@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] NoLifeKing@ani.social 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) But it’s not spyware. The eIDAS law proposes that governments can insert certificates that spoof the originator. A subtle difference. I really hope Mozilla don’t comply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Still weakening encryption standards. It would force the inclusion of a "trusted root" into browsers & OSs with the purpose of allowing government entities to spoof certificates. As certificate pinning is becoming mainstream, I would assume it'll require browser & app vendors to weaken those controls too. You'd hope ECHR's prior ruling would block this too. For the exact same rationale. permalink fedilink source parent [+] NoLifeKing@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aelwero@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago No... That's spyware with less steps... Theres no cracking, hacking, Trojans etc. involved at all, it's a direct and straightforward addition of the spyware under color of the states authority. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) But it’s not spyware. The eIDAS law proposes that governments can insert certificates that spoof the originator. A subtle difference. I really hope Mozilla don’t comply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Still weakening encryption standards. It would force the inclusion of a "trusted root" into browsers & OSs with the purpose of allowing government entities to spoof certificates. As certificate pinning is becoming mainstream, I would assume it'll require browser & app vendors to weaken those controls too. You'd hope ECHR's prior ruling would block this too. For the exact same rationale. permalink fedilink source parent [+] NoLifeKing@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aelwero@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago No... That's spyware with less steps... Theres no cracking, hacking, Trojans etc. involved at all, it's a direct and straightforward addition of the spyware under color of the states authority. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Still weakening encryption standards. It would force the inclusion of a "trusted root" into browsers & OSs with the purpose of allowing government entities to spoof certificates. As certificate pinning is becoming mainstream, I would assume it'll require browser & app vendors to weaken those controls too. You'd hope ECHR's prior ruling would block this too. For the exact same rationale. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] NoLifeKing@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aelwero@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago No... That's spyware with less steps... Theres no cracking, hacking, Trojans etc. involved at all, it's a direct and straightforward addition of the spyware under color of the states authority. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aelwero@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago No... That's spyware with less steps... Theres no cracking, hacking, Trojans etc. involved at all, it's a direct and straightforward addition of the spyware under color of the states authority. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gehrluke@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What would be a non-EU compliant browser? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’m expecting browser companies to offer EU citizens a browser with the eIDAS cert acceptance baked in but outside the EU as they are now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_third@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’m expecting browser companies to offer EU citizens a browser with the eIDAS cert acceptance baked in but outside the EU as they are now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_third@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] the_third@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent