▲ 2 ▼ Child Safety on Federated Social Media (purl.stanford.edu) submitted 3 years ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 21 comments fedilink hide all child comments Not the best news in this report. We need to find ways to do more.
[–] MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Why would someone downvote this post? We have a problem and it's in our best interest to fix that. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) The report (if you can still find a working link) said that the vast majority of material that they found was drawn and animated, and hosted on one Mastodon instance out of Japan, where that shit is still legal. Every time that little bit of truth comes up, someone reposts the broken link to the study, screaming about how it's the entire Fediverse riddled with child porn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) So basically we had a bad apple that was probably already defederated by everyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's Pawoo, Pixiv's (formerly) own instance, which is infamous for this kind of content, and those are still "just drawings" (unless some artists are using illegal real-life references). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) They're using Generative AI to create photo realistic renditions now, and causing everyone who finds out about it to have a moral crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, that's a very different and way more concerning thing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) ... I mean ... idk ... If the argument is that the drawn version doesn't harm kids and gives pedos an outlet, is a ai generated version any different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_pan@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) imo, the dicey part of the matter is "what amount of the AI's dataset is made up of actual images of children" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Shit that is a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) The report (if you can still find a working link) said that the vast majority of material that they found was drawn and animated, and hosted on one Mastodon instance out of Japan, where that shit is still legal. Every time that little bit of truth comes up, someone reposts the broken link to the study, screaming about how it's the entire Fediverse riddled with child porn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) So basically we had a bad apple that was probably already defederated by everyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's Pawoo, Pixiv's (formerly) own instance, which is infamous for this kind of content, and those are still "just drawings" (unless some artists are using illegal real-life references). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) They're using Generative AI to create photo realistic renditions now, and causing everyone who finds out about it to have a moral crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, that's a very different and way more concerning thing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) ... I mean ... idk ... If the argument is that the drawn version doesn't harm kids and gives pedos an outlet, is a ai generated version any different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_pan@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) imo, the dicey part of the matter is "what amount of the AI's dataset is made up of actual images of children" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Shit that is a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) So basically we had a bad apple that was probably already defederated by everyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's Pawoo, Pixiv's (formerly) own instance, which is infamous for this kind of content, and those are still "just drawings" (unless some artists are using illegal real-life references). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) They're using Generative AI to create photo realistic renditions now, and causing everyone who finds out about it to have a moral crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, that's a very different and way more concerning thing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) ... I mean ... idk ... If the argument is that the drawn version doesn't harm kids and gives pedos an outlet, is a ai generated version any different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_pan@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) imo, the dicey part of the matter is "what amount of the AI's dataset is made up of actual images of children" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Shit that is a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's Pawoo, Pixiv's (formerly) own instance, which is infamous for this kind of content, and those are still "just drawings" (unless some artists are using illegal real-life references). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) They're using Generative AI to create photo realistic renditions now, and causing everyone who finds out about it to have a moral crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, that's a very different and way more concerning thing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) ... I mean ... idk ... If the argument is that the drawn version doesn't harm kids and gives pedos an outlet, is a ai generated version any different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_pan@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) imo, the dicey part of the matter is "what amount of the AI's dataset is made up of actual images of children" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Shit that is a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) They're using Generative AI to create photo realistic renditions now, and causing everyone who finds out about it to have a moral crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, that's a very different and way more concerning thing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) ... I mean ... idk ... If the argument is that the drawn version doesn't harm kids and gives pedos an outlet, is a ai generated version any different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_pan@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) imo, the dicey part of the matter is "what amount of the AI's dataset is made up of actual images of children" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Shit that is a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, that's a very different and way more concerning thing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) ... I mean ... idk ... If the argument is that the drawn version doesn't harm kids and gives pedos an outlet, is a ai generated version any different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_pan@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) imo, the dicey part of the matter is "what amount of the AI's dataset is made up of actual images of children" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Shit that is a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) ... I mean ... idk ... If the argument is that the drawn version doesn't harm kids and gives pedos an outlet, is a ai generated version any different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_pan@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) imo, the dicey part of the matter is "what amount of the AI's dataset is made up of actual images of children" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Shit that is a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brain_pan@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) imo, the dicey part of the matter is "what amount of the AI's dataset is made up of actual images of children" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Derproid@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Shit that is a good point. permalink fedilink source parent