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[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 years ago (1 child) Context: German: "siebenundneunzig" = "sevenandninety" English: = "ninety-seven" French: "quatre-vingt-dix-sept" = "four-twenty-ten-seven" permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (5 children) It's shit like that why I wonder people just don't update their languages, remove useless letters, nonsensical loan words exonyms, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) LOL, this kind of shit is what happens when people do try to police their language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acad%C3%A9mie_Fran%C3%A7aise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_qu%C3%A9b%C3%A9cois_de_la_langue_fran%C3%A7aise permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) ... A dictionary? We already have those in English lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oxford University Press doesn't have governmental enforcement powers the way the OQLF does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Users dictate a language more than anything else permalink fedilink source parent [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago No, French has private dictionaries that aren't normative. This isn't that. The Académie is a quasi-governemental institution built by Louis XIV to impose a normative version of French. They initially reformed the language but quickly ended up enforcing the linguistic status quo. French hasn't had a (much needed) structural reform in about two centuries. What the academy defines to be "proper French" is essentially the only French that is used by the government, media, and school system, and they refuse to acknowledge changes in usage at every turn. This means that French is set in stone and mid-19th century books have essentially the same grammar as 21st century French apart from some very minor differences. (I won't get into the systemic and very successful repression of minority languages which is closely related). permalink fedilink source parent [–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago German did. And it worked. One of the reasons is probably that written German is uniform everywhere. I imagine language reformes are harder and less effective when dialects are still big. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theherk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago We all do constantly with each word spoken. Language is updated without rest forever. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Taigagaai@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Like many things in life, languages aren't necessary logical but I'm looking forward to your efforts to finally get everyone into Esperanto! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Megwetch permalink fedilink source parent [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Or Lojban. Edit: Lojban (pronounced [ˈloʒban]) is a logical, constructed, human language created by the Logical Language Group which aims to be syntactically unambiguous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Or quantum grammar, which would solve the problems of normal languages where people have misunderstandings by making it so that nobody can communicate anything enough to have a misunderstanding again because it's all gibberish. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wynn_Miller permalink fedilink source parent [+] CatMaster5001@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (5 children) It's shit like that why I wonder people just don't update their languages, remove useless letters, nonsensical loan words exonyms, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) LOL, this kind of shit is what happens when people do try to police their language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acad%C3%A9mie_Fran%C3%A7aise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_qu%C3%A9b%C3%A9cois_de_la_langue_fran%C3%A7aise permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) ... A dictionary? We already have those in English lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oxford University Press doesn't have governmental enforcement powers the way the OQLF does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Users dictate a language more than anything else permalink fedilink source parent [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago No, French has private dictionaries that aren't normative. This isn't that. The Académie is a quasi-governemental institution built by Louis XIV to impose a normative version of French. They initially reformed the language but quickly ended up enforcing the linguistic status quo. French hasn't had a (much needed) structural reform in about two centuries. What the academy defines to be "proper French" is essentially the only French that is used by the government, media, and school system, and they refuse to acknowledge changes in usage at every turn. This means that French is set in stone and mid-19th century books have essentially the same grammar as 21st century French apart from some very minor differences. (I won't get into the systemic and very successful repression of minority languages which is closely related). permalink fedilink source parent [–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago German did. And it worked. One of the reasons is probably that written German is uniform everywhere. I imagine language reformes are harder and less effective when dialects are still big. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theherk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago We all do constantly with each word spoken. Language is updated without rest forever. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Taigagaai@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Like many things in life, languages aren't necessary logical but I'm looking forward to your efforts to finally get everyone into Esperanto! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Megwetch permalink fedilink source parent [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Or Lojban. Edit: Lojban (pronounced [ˈloʒban]) is a logical, constructed, human language created by the Logical Language Group which aims to be syntactically unambiguous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Or quantum grammar, which would solve the problems of normal languages where people have misunderstandings by making it so that nobody can communicate anything enough to have a misunderstanding again because it's all gibberish. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wynn_Miller permalink fedilink source parent [+] CatMaster5001@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) LOL, this kind of shit is what happens when people do try to police their language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acad%C3%A9mie_Fran%C3%A7aise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_qu%C3%A9b%C3%A9cois_de_la_langue_fran%C3%A7aise permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) ... A dictionary? We already have those in English lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oxford University Press doesn't have governmental enforcement powers the way the OQLF does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Users dictate a language more than anything else permalink fedilink source parent [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago No, French has private dictionaries that aren't normative. This isn't that. The Académie is a quasi-governemental institution built by Louis XIV to impose a normative version of French. They initially reformed the language but quickly ended up enforcing the linguistic status quo. French hasn't had a (much needed) structural reform in about two centuries. What the academy defines to be "proper French" is essentially the only French that is used by the government, media, and school system, and they refuse to acknowledge changes in usage at every turn. This means that French is set in stone and mid-19th century books have essentially the same grammar as 21st century French apart from some very minor differences. (I won't get into the systemic and very successful repression of minority languages which is closely related). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) ... A dictionary? We already have those in English lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oxford University Press doesn't have governmental enforcement powers the way the OQLF does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Users dictate a language more than anything else permalink fedilink source parent [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago No, French has private dictionaries that aren't normative. This isn't that. The Académie is a quasi-governemental institution built by Louis XIV to impose a normative version of French. They initially reformed the language but quickly ended up enforcing the linguistic status quo. French hasn't had a (much needed) structural reform in about two centuries. What the academy defines to be "proper French" is essentially the only French that is used by the government, media, and school system, and they refuse to acknowledge changes in usage at every turn. This means that French is set in stone and mid-19th century books have essentially the same grammar as 21st century French apart from some very minor differences. (I won't get into the systemic and very successful repression of minority languages which is closely related). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oxford University Press doesn't have governmental enforcement powers the way the OQLF does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Users dictate a language more than anything else permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Users dictate a language more than anything else permalink fedilink source parent
[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago No, French has private dictionaries that aren't normative. This isn't that. The Académie is a quasi-governemental institution built by Louis XIV to impose a normative version of French. They initially reformed the language but quickly ended up enforcing the linguistic status quo. French hasn't had a (much needed) structural reform in about two centuries. What the academy defines to be "proper French" is essentially the only French that is used by the government, media, and school system, and they refuse to acknowledge changes in usage at every turn. This means that French is set in stone and mid-19th century books have essentially the same grammar as 21st century French apart from some very minor differences. (I won't get into the systemic and very successful repression of minority languages which is closely related). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago German did. And it worked. One of the reasons is probably that written German is uniform everywhere. I imagine language reformes are harder and less effective when dialects are still big. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theherk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago We all do constantly with each word spoken. Language is updated without rest forever. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Taigagaai@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Like many things in life, languages aren't necessary logical but I'm looking forward to your efforts to finally get everyone into Esperanto! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Megwetch permalink fedilink source parent [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Or Lojban. Edit: Lojban (pronounced [ˈloʒban]) is a logical, constructed, human language created by the Logical Language Group which aims to be syntactically unambiguous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Or quantum grammar, which would solve the problems of normal languages where people have misunderstandings by making it so that nobody can communicate anything enough to have a misunderstanding again because it's all gibberish. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wynn_Miller permalink fedilink source parent
[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Or Lojban. Edit: Lojban (pronounced [ˈloʒban]) is a logical, constructed, human language created by the Logical Language Group which aims to be syntactically unambiguous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Or quantum grammar, which would solve the problems of normal languages where people have misunderstandings by making it so that nobody can communicate anything enough to have a misunderstanding again because it's all gibberish. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wynn_Miller permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Or quantum grammar, which would solve the problems of normal languages where people have misunderstandings by making it so that nobody can communicate anything enough to have a misunderstanding again because it's all gibberish. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wynn_Miller permalink fedilink source parent