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[β] PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world 130 points 2 years ago (3 children) When will these bugs be fixed? I prefer to face to the right and would also like to be able to sleep on my stomach permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] cm0002@lemmy.world 94 points 2 years ago (1 child) The GitHub human branch maintainer peaced out forever ago, all attempts to establish communications aren't going so well and the issue tracker is piling up...so probably never permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 47 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean if it's abandonware it's ethical to reverse engineer and open source the reverse engineered platform, maybe even fork it and provide some sort of extensible framework for various plugins, or convert the kernel to a new architecture or even virtualize it. Hopefully we can also work out the bugs and the more glaring issues soon (looking at you, upright vertebrae). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] cm0002@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago We're working on it, but the mf was on something, have you seen the digestive system class? Or the central nervous system class? permalink fedilink source parent [β] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've heard some people managed to reverse engineer the human, though right now people are trying to figure out whether using a modded version is considered OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They decompiled the human, it doesn't mean they understand the code enough to mod it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Instead of modding, I know a few hackers that have removed whole sections to delete non functioning parts and I know a few others who figured out how to swap parts between different units. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 2 years ago That's why you need to open source and freely distribute the mod. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago Unfortunately I heard they forked it to the AI/ automation branch so I don't think that the original maintainers coming back. They're calling it the new best thing permalink fedilink source parent [β] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) Some people have mirrored internal organs, so this advice may be the ophosite for you. But also, if it ain't broke don't fix it, sleep however's comfiest for you and lets you get the best sleep you can permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) O.01% of the population, roughly 1 person in 10,000. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situs_inversus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] LeftHandedWave@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) So about 800,000 people world wide? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, round figures, lets call it 800K. And I bet the vast majority of them knows. It doesn't take much of an examination for a doctor to determine location of heart and liver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In fact many of them don't, since the body is mostly symmetrical and apart from cutting them open or doing an MRI, you can't really tell (which isn't a big deal in most cases, because most medical procedures work regardless of this condition). Also, the heart is located almost in the middle, so there is not much difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Listening to the chest with a stethoscope, or your ear will tell the location of the heart. Percussing over the liver, but not finding a solid structure e.g. liver, which sounds different than a hollow structure, e.g. lungs would also help in identifying unexpected organ locations. I'm curious how you came to know that many of them don't know? Do you keep a register of people with this condition, but don't tell them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8901252/ It is difficult to provide a valid estimation of real frequency. There are only a few own observations in the literature and a lot of citations. We performed a search in our radiologic database, looking for situs inversus as key words in the results. Between 2006 and 2020, 217,646 imaging examinations (ultrasound, CT and plain radiography) were performed at the Department of Transplantation and Surgery, Semmelweis University. Out of them, 21 cases were found, which represents a 1:10,000 frequency. This hospital-based prevalence rate best reflects Adams et al in 1937 (23:232,113), and Lin et al in 2000 (20:201,084) from Massachusetts, as data from own observations.26 This rate is similar as well to the population-based Baltimore-Washington Infant Study.12 SIT is slightly more frequent in males: 1.5:1.27 https://www.healthline.com/health/situs-inversus#symptoms Because the condition seldom causes symptoms and is so rare, a person may not know they have it. And it may not be discovered until visiting a doctor for a different reason. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23486-situs-inversus You may not develop any symptoms with situs inversus. Although your organs are reversed, theyβre often still functional. So you wouldnβt notice any signs or complications. Of course, trying to estimate how many people don't know about a disease is a difficult task, but the general consensus is the condition is rare and often doesn't produce any symptoms, as such there are definitely many people with the condition that haven't even ever heard of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago* Cool, so sticking with the stipulated incidence, 800K is indeed a lot. Thanks for the linx! permalink fedilink source parent [β] brian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (5 children) I've heard people talk about mirrored organs, is that something that would be immediately obvious? Like surely every person that has the condition would know about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] Jerb322@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Every time I've seen it in a hospital TV show or whatever, it always seems to be a surprise...like they didn't find out at birth but the first time they need some invasive procedures. permalink fedilink source parent [β] nom_nom@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I knew someone once who had this, she didnβt know until she got an x-ray as an adult. The doctor called in their colleagues to take a look at the scan because heβd never seen a real-life case before. She had her heart on the right side of her chest, was pretty interesting. permalink fedilink source parent [β] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'd think so. You'd feel the urge to BM on the right rather than the left. permalink fedilink source parent [β] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How would you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] brian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if I put my hand over my left then right side of my chest, it's pretty clear which side my heart is on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago True, though isn't the heart actually in the middle and it's just asymmetric (with the big body-pumping side on the left)? permalink fedilink source parent [β] morphballganon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Certainly not. It affects ~10% of the population, at least in certain countries. Not everyone has the privelege of a robust, accessible healthcare system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] brian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Well I guess the obvious one to me is feeling a heartbeat. It seems like that would come up even outside of the medical field (schools, "playing doctor", heck doing the pledge of allegiance if you're in the US) permalink fedilink source parent [β] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* This woman is dead. Her stomach is coming out of her body and her arms are under her esophagus permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cm0002@lemmy.world 94 points 2 years ago (1 child) The GitHub human branch maintainer peaced out forever ago, all attempts to establish communications aren't going so well and the issue tracker is piling up...so probably never permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 47 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean if it's abandonware it's ethical to reverse engineer and open source the reverse engineered platform, maybe even fork it and provide some sort of extensible framework for various plugins, or convert the kernel to a new architecture or even virtualize it. Hopefully we can also work out the bugs and the more glaring issues soon (looking at you, upright vertebrae). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] cm0002@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago We're working on it, but the mf was on something, have you seen the digestive system class? Or the central nervous system class? permalink fedilink source parent [β] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've heard some people managed to reverse engineer the human, though right now people are trying to figure out whether using a modded version is considered OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They decompiled the human, it doesn't mean they understand the code enough to mod it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Instead of modding, I know a few hackers that have removed whole sections to delete non functioning parts and I know a few others who figured out how to swap parts between different units. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 2 years ago That's why you need to open source and freely distribute the mod. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago Unfortunately I heard they forked it to the AI/ automation branch so I don't think that the original maintainers coming back. They're calling it the new best thing permalink fedilink source parent
[β] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 47 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean if it's abandonware it's ethical to reverse engineer and open source the reverse engineered platform, maybe even fork it and provide some sort of extensible framework for various plugins, or convert the kernel to a new architecture or even virtualize it. Hopefully we can also work out the bugs and the more glaring issues soon (looking at you, upright vertebrae). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] cm0002@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago We're working on it, but the mf was on something, have you seen the digestive system class? Or the central nervous system class? permalink fedilink source parent [β] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've heard some people managed to reverse engineer the human, though right now people are trying to figure out whether using a modded version is considered OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They decompiled the human, it doesn't mean they understand the code enough to mod it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Instead of modding, I know a few hackers that have removed whole sections to delete non functioning parts and I know a few others who figured out how to swap parts between different units. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 2 years ago That's why you need to open source and freely distribute the mod. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago Unfortunately I heard they forked it to the AI/ automation branch so I don't think that the original maintainers coming back. They're calling it the new best thing permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cm0002@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago We're working on it, but the mf was on something, have you seen the digestive system class? Or the central nervous system class? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've heard some people managed to reverse engineer the human, though right now people are trying to figure out whether using a modded version is considered OP permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They decompiled the human, it doesn't mean they understand the code enough to mod it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Instead of modding, I know a few hackers that have removed whole sections to delete non functioning parts and I know a few others who figured out how to swap parts between different units. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 2 years ago That's why you need to open source and freely distribute the mod. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They decompiled the human, it doesn't mean they understand the code enough to mod it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Instead of modding, I know a few hackers that have removed whole sections to delete non functioning parts and I know a few others who figured out how to swap parts between different units. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Instead of modding, I know a few hackers that have removed whole sections to delete non functioning parts and I know a few others who figured out how to swap parts between different units. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 2 years ago That's why you need to open source and freely distribute the mod. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago Unfortunately I heard they forked it to the AI/ automation branch so I don't think that the original maintainers coming back. They're calling it the new best thing permalink fedilink source parent
[β] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) Some people have mirrored internal organs, so this advice may be the ophosite for you. But also, if it ain't broke don't fix it, sleep however's comfiest for you and lets you get the best sleep you can permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) O.01% of the population, roughly 1 person in 10,000. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situs_inversus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] LeftHandedWave@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) So about 800,000 people world wide? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, round figures, lets call it 800K. And I bet the vast majority of them knows. It doesn't take much of an examination for a doctor to determine location of heart and liver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In fact many of them don't, since the body is mostly symmetrical and apart from cutting them open or doing an MRI, you can't really tell (which isn't a big deal in most cases, because most medical procedures work regardless of this condition). Also, the heart is located almost in the middle, so there is not much difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Listening to the chest with a stethoscope, or your ear will tell the location of the heart. Percussing over the liver, but not finding a solid structure e.g. liver, which sounds different than a hollow structure, e.g. lungs would also help in identifying unexpected organ locations. I'm curious how you came to know that many of them don't know? Do you keep a register of people with this condition, but don't tell them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8901252/ It is difficult to provide a valid estimation of real frequency. There are only a few own observations in the literature and a lot of citations. We performed a search in our radiologic database, looking for situs inversus as key words in the results. Between 2006 and 2020, 217,646 imaging examinations (ultrasound, CT and plain radiography) were performed at the Department of Transplantation and Surgery, Semmelweis University. Out of them, 21 cases were found, which represents a 1:10,000 frequency. This hospital-based prevalence rate best reflects Adams et al in 1937 (23:232,113), and Lin et al in 2000 (20:201,084) from Massachusetts, as data from own observations.26 This rate is similar as well to the population-based Baltimore-Washington Infant Study.12 SIT is slightly more frequent in males: 1.5:1.27 https://www.healthline.com/health/situs-inversus#symptoms Because the condition seldom causes symptoms and is so rare, a person may not know they have it. And it may not be discovered until visiting a doctor for a different reason. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23486-situs-inversus You may not develop any symptoms with situs inversus. Although your organs are reversed, theyβre often still functional. So you wouldnβt notice any signs or complications. Of course, trying to estimate how many people don't know about a disease is a difficult task, but the general consensus is the condition is rare and often doesn't produce any symptoms, as such there are definitely many people with the condition that haven't even ever heard of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago* Cool, so sticking with the stipulated incidence, 800K is indeed a lot. Thanks for the linx! permalink fedilink source parent [β] brian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (5 children) I've heard people talk about mirrored organs, is that something that would be immediately obvious? Like surely every person that has the condition would know about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] Jerb322@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Every time I've seen it in a hospital TV show or whatever, it always seems to be a surprise...like they didn't find out at birth but the first time they need some invasive procedures. permalink fedilink source parent [β] nom_nom@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I knew someone once who had this, she didnβt know until she got an x-ray as an adult. The doctor called in their colleagues to take a look at the scan because heβd never seen a real-life case before. She had her heart on the right side of her chest, was pretty interesting. permalink fedilink source parent [β] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'd think so. You'd feel the urge to BM on the right rather than the left. permalink fedilink source parent [β] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How would you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] brian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if I put my hand over my left then right side of my chest, it's pretty clear which side my heart is on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago True, though isn't the heart actually in the middle and it's just asymmetric (with the big body-pumping side on the left)? permalink fedilink source parent [β] morphballganon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Certainly not. It affects ~10% of the population, at least in certain countries. Not everyone has the privelege of a robust, accessible healthcare system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] brian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Well I guess the obvious one to me is feeling a heartbeat. It seems like that would come up even outside of the medical field (schools, "playing doctor", heck doing the pledge of allegiance if you're in the US) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) O.01% of the population, roughly 1 person in 10,000. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situs_inversus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] LeftHandedWave@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) So about 800,000 people world wide? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, round figures, lets call it 800K. And I bet the vast majority of them knows. It doesn't take much of an examination for a doctor to determine location of heart and liver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In fact many of them don't, since the body is mostly symmetrical and apart from cutting them open or doing an MRI, you can't really tell (which isn't a big deal in most cases, because most medical procedures work regardless of this condition). Also, the heart is located almost in the middle, so there is not much difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Listening to the chest with a stethoscope, or your ear will tell the location of the heart. Percussing over the liver, but not finding a solid structure e.g. liver, which sounds different than a hollow structure, e.g. lungs would also help in identifying unexpected organ locations. I'm curious how you came to know that many of them don't know? Do you keep a register of people with this condition, but don't tell them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8901252/ It is difficult to provide a valid estimation of real frequency. There are only a few own observations in the literature and a lot of citations. We performed a search in our radiologic database, looking for situs inversus as key words in the results. Between 2006 and 2020, 217,646 imaging examinations (ultrasound, CT and plain radiography) were performed at the Department of Transplantation and Surgery, Semmelweis University. Out of them, 21 cases were found, which represents a 1:10,000 frequency. This hospital-based prevalence rate best reflects Adams et al in 1937 (23:232,113), and Lin et al in 2000 (20:201,084) from Massachusetts, as data from own observations.26 This rate is similar as well to the population-based Baltimore-Washington Infant Study.12 SIT is slightly more frequent in males: 1.5:1.27 https://www.healthline.com/health/situs-inversus#symptoms Because the condition seldom causes symptoms and is so rare, a person may not know they have it. And it may not be discovered until visiting a doctor for a different reason. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23486-situs-inversus You may not develop any symptoms with situs inversus. Although your organs are reversed, theyβre often still functional. So you wouldnβt notice any signs or complications. Of course, trying to estimate how many people don't know about a disease is a difficult task, but the general consensus is the condition is rare and often doesn't produce any symptoms, as such there are definitely many people with the condition that haven't even ever heard of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago* Cool, so sticking with the stipulated incidence, 800K is indeed a lot. Thanks for the linx! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] LeftHandedWave@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) So about 800,000 people world wide? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, round figures, lets call it 800K. And I bet the vast majority of them knows. It doesn't take much of an examination for a doctor to determine location of heart and liver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In fact many of them don't, since the body is mostly symmetrical and apart from cutting them open or doing an MRI, you can't really tell (which isn't a big deal in most cases, because most medical procedures work regardless of this condition). Also, the heart is located almost in the middle, so there is not much difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Listening to the chest with a stethoscope, or your ear will tell the location of the heart. Percussing over the liver, but not finding a solid structure e.g. liver, which sounds different than a hollow structure, e.g. lungs would also help in identifying unexpected organ locations. I'm curious how you came to know that many of them don't know? Do you keep a register of people with this condition, but don't tell them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8901252/ It is difficult to provide a valid estimation of real frequency. There are only a few own observations in the literature and a lot of citations. We performed a search in our radiologic database, looking for situs inversus as key words in the results. Between 2006 and 2020, 217,646 imaging examinations (ultrasound, CT and plain radiography) were performed at the Department of Transplantation and Surgery, Semmelweis University. Out of them, 21 cases were found, which represents a 1:10,000 frequency. This hospital-based prevalence rate best reflects Adams et al in 1937 (23:232,113), and Lin et al in 2000 (20:201,084) from Massachusetts, as data from own observations.26 This rate is similar as well to the population-based Baltimore-Washington Infant Study.12 SIT is slightly more frequent in males: 1.5:1.27 https://www.healthline.com/health/situs-inversus#symptoms Because the condition seldom causes symptoms and is so rare, a person may not know they have it. And it may not be discovered until visiting a doctor for a different reason. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23486-situs-inversus You may not develop any symptoms with situs inversus. Although your organs are reversed, theyβre often still functional. So you wouldnβt notice any signs or complications. Of course, trying to estimate how many people don't know about a disease is a difficult task, but the general consensus is the condition is rare and often doesn't produce any symptoms, as such there are definitely many people with the condition that haven't even ever heard of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago* Cool, so sticking with the stipulated incidence, 800K is indeed a lot. Thanks for the linx! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, round figures, lets call it 800K. And I bet the vast majority of them knows. It doesn't take much of an examination for a doctor to determine location of heart and liver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In fact many of them don't, since the body is mostly symmetrical and apart from cutting them open or doing an MRI, you can't really tell (which isn't a big deal in most cases, because most medical procedures work regardless of this condition). Also, the heart is located almost in the middle, so there is not much difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Listening to the chest with a stethoscope, or your ear will tell the location of the heart. Percussing over the liver, but not finding a solid structure e.g. liver, which sounds different than a hollow structure, e.g. lungs would also help in identifying unexpected organ locations. I'm curious how you came to know that many of them don't know? Do you keep a register of people with this condition, but don't tell them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8901252/ It is difficult to provide a valid estimation of real frequency. There are only a few own observations in the literature and a lot of citations. We performed a search in our radiologic database, looking for situs inversus as key words in the results. Between 2006 and 2020, 217,646 imaging examinations (ultrasound, CT and plain radiography) were performed at the Department of Transplantation and Surgery, Semmelweis University. Out of them, 21 cases were found, which represents a 1:10,000 frequency. This hospital-based prevalence rate best reflects Adams et al in 1937 (23:232,113), and Lin et al in 2000 (20:201,084) from Massachusetts, as data from own observations.26 This rate is similar as well to the population-based Baltimore-Washington Infant Study.12 SIT is slightly more frequent in males: 1.5:1.27 https://www.healthline.com/health/situs-inversus#symptoms Because the condition seldom causes symptoms and is so rare, a person may not know they have it. And it may not be discovered until visiting a doctor for a different reason. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23486-situs-inversus You may not develop any symptoms with situs inversus. Although your organs are reversed, theyβre often still functional. So you wouldnβt notice any signs or complications. Of course, trying to estimate how many people don't know about a disease is a difficult task, but the general consensus is the condition is rare and often doesn't produce any symptoms, as such there are definitely many people with the condition that haven't even ever heard of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago* Cool, so sticking with the stipulated incidence, 800K is indeed a lot. Thanks for the linx! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In fact many of them don't, since the body is mostly symmetrical and apart from cutting them open or doing an MRI, you can't really tell (which isn't a big deal in most cases, because most medical procedures work regardless of this condition). Also, the heart is located almost in the middle, so there is not much difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Listening to the chest with a stethoscope, or your ear will tell the location of the heart. Percussing over the liver, but not finding a solid structure e.g. liver, which sounds different than a hollow structure, e.g. lungs would also help in identifying unexpected organ locations. I'm curious how you came to know that many of them don't know? Do you keep a register of people with this condition, but don't tell them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8901252/ It is difficult to provide a valid estimation of real frequency. There are only a few own observations in the literature and a lot of citations. We performed a search in our radiologic database, looking for situs inversus as key words in the results. Between 2006 and 2020, 217,646 imaging examinations (ultrasound, CT and plain radiography) were performed at the Department of Transplantation and Surgery, Semmelweis University. Out of them, 21 cases were found, which represents a 1:10,000 frequency. This hospital-based prevalence rate best reflects Adams et al in 1937 (23:232,113), and Lin et al in 2000 (20:201,084) from Massachusetts, as data from own observations.26 This rate is similar as well to the population-based Baltimore-Washington Infant Study.12 SIT is slightly more frequent in males: 1.5:1.27 https://www.healthline.com/health/situs-inversus#symptoms Because the condition seldom causes symptoms and is so rare, a person may not know they have it. And it may not be discovered until visiting a doctor for a different reason. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23486-situs-inversus You may not develop any symptoms with situs inversus. Although your organs are reversed, theyβre often still functional. So you wouldnβt notice any signs or complications. Of course, trying to estimate how many people don't know about a disease is a difficult task, but the general consensus is the condition is rare and often doesn't produce any symptoms, as such there are definitely many people with the condition that haven't even ever heard of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago* Cool, so sticking with the stipulated incidence, 800K is indeed a lot. Thanks for the linx! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Listening to the chest with a stethoscope, or your ear will tell the location of the heart. Percussing over the liver, but not finding a solid structure e.g. liver, which sounds different than a hollow structure, e.g. lungs would also help in identifying unexpected organ locations. I'm curious how you came to know that many of them don't know? Do you keep a register of people with this condition, but don't tell them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8901252/ It is difficult to provide a valid estimation of real frequency. There are only a few own observations in the literature and a lot of citations. We performed a search in our radiologic database, looking for situs inversus as key words in the results. Between 2006 and 2020, 217,646 imaging examinations (ultrasound, CT and plain radiography) were performed at the Department of Transplantation and Surgery, Semmelweis University. Out of them, 21 cases were found, which represents a 1:10,000 frequency. This hospital-based prevalence rate best reflects Adams et al in 1937 (23:232,113), and Lin et al in 2000 (20:201,084) from Massachusetts, as data from own observations.26 This rate is similar as well to the population-based Baltimore-Washington Infant Study.12 SIT is slightly more frequent in males: 1.5:1.27 https://www.healthline.com/health/situs-inversus#symptoms Because the condition seldom causes symptoms and is so rare, a person may not know they have it. And it may not be discovered until visiting a doctor for a different reason. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23486-situs-inversus You may not develop any symptoms with situs inversus. Although your organs are reversed, theyβre often still functional. So you wouldnβt notice any signs or complications. Of course, trying to estimate how many people don't know about a disease is a difficult task, but the general consensus is the condition is rare and often doesn't produce any symptoms, as such there are definitely many people with the condition that haven't even ever heard of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago* Cool, so sticking with the stipulated incidence, 800K is indeed a lot. Thanks for the linx! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8901252/ It is difficult to provide a valid estimation of real frequency. There are only a few own observations in the literature and a lot of citations. We performed a search in our radiologic database, looking for situs inversus as key words in the results. Between 2006 and 2020, 217,646 imaging examinations (ultrasound, CT and plain radiography) were performed at the Department of Transplantation and Surgery, Semmelweis University. Out of them, 21 cases were found, which represents a 1:10,000 frequency. This hospital-based prevalence rate best reflects Adams et al in 1937 (23:232,113), and Lin et al in 2000 (20:201,084) from Massachusetts, as data from own observations.26 This rate is similar as well to the population-based Baltimore-Washington Infant Study.12 SIT is slightly more frequent in males: 1.5:1.27 https://www.healthline.com/health/situs-inversus#symptoms Because the condition seldom causes symptoms and is so rare, a person may not know they have it. And it may not be discovered until visiting a doctor for a different reason. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23486-situs-inversus You may not develop any symptoms with situs inversus. Although your organs are reversed, theyβre often still functional. So you wouldnβt notice any signs or complications. Of course, trying to estimate how many people don't know about a disease is a difficult task, but the general consensus is the condition is rare and often doesn't produce any symptoms, as such there are definitely many people with the condition that haven't even ever heard of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago* Cool, so sticking with the stipulated incidence, 800K is indeed a lot. Thanks for the linx! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 2 years ago* Cool, so sticking with the stipulated incidence, 800K is indeed a lot. Thanks for the linx! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] brian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (5 children) I've heard people talk about mirrored organs, is that something that would be immediately obvious? Like surely every person that has the condition would know about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] Jerb322@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Every time I've seen it in a hospital TV show or whatever, it always seems to be a surprise...like they didn't find out at birth but the first time they need some invasive procedures. permalink fedilink source parent [β] nom_nom@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I knew someone once who had this, she didnβt know until she got an x-ray as an adult. The doctor called in their colleagues to take a look at the scan because heβd never seen a real-life case before. She had her heart on the right side of her chest, was pretty interesting. permalink fedilink source parent [β] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'd think so. You'd feel the urge to BM on the right rather than the left. permalink fedilink source parent [β] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How would you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] brian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if I put my hand over my left then right side of my chest, it's pretty clear which side my heart is on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago True, though isn't the heart actually in the middle and it's just asymmetric (with the big body-pumping side on the left)? permalink fedilink source parent [β] morphballganon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Certainly not. It affects ~10% of the population, at least in certain countries. Not everyone has the privelege of a robust, accessible healthcare system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] brian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Well I guess the obvious one to me is feeling a heartbeat. It seems like that would come up even outside of the medical field (schools, "playing doctor", heck doing the pledge of allegiance if you're in the US) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Jerb322@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Every time I've seen it in a hospital TV show or whatever, it always seems to be a surprise...like they didn't find out at birth but the first time they need some invasive procedures. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] nom_nom@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I knew someone once who had this, she didnβt know until she got an x-ray as an adult. The doctor called in their colleagues to take a look at the scan because heβd never seen a real-life case before. She had her heart on the right side of her chest, was pretty interesting. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'd think so. You'd feel the urge to BM on the right rather than the left. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How would you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] brian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if I put my hand over my left then right side of my chest, it's pretty clear which side my heart is on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago True, though isn't the heart actually in the middle and it's just asymmetric (with the big body-pumping side on the left)? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] brian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if I put my hand over my left then right side of my chest, it's pretty clear which side my heart is on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago True, though isn't the heart actually in the middle and it's just asymmetric (with the big body-pumping side on the left)? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago True, though isn't the heart actually in the middle and it's just asymmetric (with the big body-pumping side on the left)? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] morphballganon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Certainly not. It affects ~10% of the population, at least in certain countries. Not everyone has the privelege of a robust, accessible healthcare system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] brian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Well I guess the obvious one to me is feeling a heartbeat. It seems like that would come up even outside of the medical field (schools, "playing doctor", heck doing the pledge of allegiance if you're in the US) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] brian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Well I guess the obvious one to me is feeling a heartbeat. It seems like that would come up even outside of the medical field (schools, "playing doctor", heck doing the pledge of allegiance if you're in the US) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* This woman is dead. Her stomach is coming out of her body and her arms are under her esophagus permalink fedilink source parent
