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Dataset confirms that a vegan diet is dramatically better across a range of environmental measures (phys.org)
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[–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

No individual average person can do anything of significance to fight climate change or have a meaningful impact on the global environment. Only governments or massive organizations can.

If you could do an alternate reality type thing, where one version of you lives a perfect life, environmentally speaking, and the other version lives the worst, the world would be the same at the end of both.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Its not about one person preventing climate change alone, first step is not supporting climate change. Then people around you see that it's not black magic and that they can do it too. We are now at 2%, 3%? vegans. A change in society needs 10% to have a critical mass. If you decide to go vegan, for the animals, for the climate, for your health, and make others think about and maybe even change one other persons view you did better than most.

    If you don't you are not passive, you are actively supporting it and showing others that its OK.

    • Eating meat is actively supporting the industry and everything that comes with it.

    • Silently not supporting it with a plant based diet is the passive position.

    • Actively fighting against it is the real fight against the industry.

    Governments will not act against the will of the voters alone. They have to have some support to even consider making change. Massive organizations live from the participation from people, from you.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I don't eat meat. But that's beside the point.

    There's a difference between one person doing something and 10% of the population doing it. The latter would have a meaningful impact, but the former would not.

    And the key part of my point is the average individual cannot make 10% of the population do anything.

    If 10% of the population are vegetarians, it has nothing to do with what any single person did. A single person is almost always powerless to affect the world.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I have not power over 10%, like you said. But have the power over me, and my choices and for what I want to be responsible. 10% is just 800.000 single persons making a choice and not hiding from responsibility.

    It is not going away and will only be more urgent and more visible. You don't have to do it alone if you want to have more impact. Join groups and organizations, go out and protest. If you want change it does not have to stop at your plate. Go out and talk to people about why you are vegan, be the change you want to see.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    10% is just 800.000 single persons

    .000

    you dropped this

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    If you want change it does not have to stop at your plate

    it doesnt even need to start on your plate. your plate neednt be involved at all, i think.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    It is the single change everyone can make with the biggest impact. But don't worry, a) you are old enough that you don't matter b) you will see the future vegan because we would have to grind everything else to 0 if we want to support the animal industry, it alone will increase temperature by 2°C and from 3°C and upwards there is no more animal industry possible due to harvest loss and increased energy demand. Just chill and think you have done more than every vegan because you are not driving a car, well done, you are the one with no car.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't believe it makes any difference at all, and it definitely doesn't have the biggest impact anyone can make.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)
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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    that fluff piece is misrepresenting the contents of the study

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I am sure you did your own research on the shitter. Much smart, such proof, many scientific.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    you think i haven't seen the poore nemecek paper?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think you are just a egoistical self centered science denier who has troubles with very simple concepts.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    i think you don't understand science if you think the poore nemecek paper supports the fluff piece you referenced.

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