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[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (5 children) Well it's simple, what are the Democrat voters going to do, vote 3rd party? They're held hostage to the party, so the party has no need to reflect them, it just has to be less bad than the Republicans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago https://youtu.be/WS2Bsq5PDmU?si=MC0DCuKP0hzWDMyF Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Ranked Choice Voting: "It smell like bitch in here" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Of everyone who claims no third party could win would actually coalesce around and vote for a third party candidate, the third party would win. Their children apparently aren’t suffering and starving enough, yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering the Senate is just two assholes per state and the House would have over a 1,000 members if we had the same ratio as 1789 I'd expand that to all three branches. It's not a legitimate government, but we all pretend it is. Especially the people with guns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk about that. Maybe, but if we keep doing the same thing expecting different results, we’re definitely not getting them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) The problem is you're only focusing on one branch. Congress has an amazing amount of power... the problem is a majority of them are really only concerned with their own piece of the United States of Pie. Their first, second, and only concern is being re-electable. Start focusing on electing more people who actually have the people's (all the people, not just their specific constituents, mind) best interest at heart and you can have effective change. Constantly focusing on the Presidential election, and only the Presidential election and you lose out on most of the power in this country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Start focusing on electing more people who actually have the people's (all the people, not just their specific constituents, mind) best interest at heart and you can have effective change. The problem is that the person you want to elect will lose to someone who selfishly serves their constituents, because their constituents vote for them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago What about of those candidates are never on my ballots? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone wants a third party, but not everyone wants the same third party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago That’s true but many actual leftists will coalesce behind a better option. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago No they wouldn't, it would, at most, be a deadlock between the three parties that the House would decide on. One would hope they would go with the one with the most votes, but in reality they can pick anyone. Including someone who wasn't even one of the top three candidates. Not to mention all the people who want a "third party" aren't necessarily going to vote for the same third party. They all want their own person. Most likely none of them would get anywhere near the majority popular vote, much less any electoral votes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] seathru@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) what are the Democrat voters going to do, vote 3rd party? Sit on their hands like they did in 2016. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the election that had record voter turnout all over the country? Is that what sitting on your hands means? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago And yet still barely two-thirds of people eligible to vote. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) They could vote for any of the other DNC candidates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Unless you’re in Nee Hampshire right? Or like we saw with Bernie, they’ll sabotage your campaign and rig the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago https://youtu.be/WS2Bsq5PDmU?si=MC0DCuKP0hzWDMyF Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Ranked Choice Voting: "It smell like bitch in here" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Of everyone who claims no third party could win would actually coalesce around and vote for a third party candidate, the third party would win. Their children apparently aren’t suffering and starving enough, yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering the Senate is just two assholes per state and the House would have over a 1,000 members if we had the same ratio as 1789 I'd expand that to all three branches. It's not a legitimate government, but we all pretend it is. Especially the people with guns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk about that. Maybe, but if we keep doing the same thing expecting different results, we’re definitely not getting them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) The problem is you're only focusing on one branch. Congress has an amazing amount of power... the problem is a majority of them are really only concerned with their own piece of the United States of Pie. Their first, second, and only concern is being re-electable. Start focusing on electing more people who actually have the people's (all the people, not just their specific constituents, mind) best interest at heart and you can have effective change. Constantly focusing on the Presidential election, and only the Presidential election and you lose out on most of the power in this country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Start focusing on electing more people who actually have the people's (all the people, not just their specific constituents, mind) best interest at heart and you can have effective change. The problem is that the person you want to elect will lose to someone who selfishly serves their constituents, because their constituents vote for them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago What about of those candidates are never on my ballots? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone wants a third party, but not everyone wants the same third party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago That’s true but many actual leftists will coalesce behind a better option. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago No they wouldn't, it would, at most, be a deadlock between the three parties that the House would decide on. One would hope they would go with the one with the most votes, but in reality they can pick anyone. Including someone who wasn't even one of the top three candidates. Not to mention all the people who want a "third party" aren't necessarily going to vote for the same third party. They all want their own person. Most likely none of them would get anywhere near the majority popular vote, much less any electoral votes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering the Senate is just two assholes per state and the House would have over a 1,000 members if we had the same ratio as 1789 I'd expand that to all three branches. It's not a legitimate government, but we all pretend it is. Especially the people with guns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk about that. Maybe, but if we keep doing the same thing expecting different results, we’re definitely not getting them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) The problem is you're only focusing on one branch. Congress has an amazing amount of power... the problem is a majority of them are really only concerned with their own piece of the United States of Pie. Their first, second, and only concern is being re-electable. Start focusing on electing more people who actually have the people's (all the people, not just their specific constituents, mind) best interest at heart and you can have effective change. Constantly focusing on the Presidential election, and only the Presidential election and you lose out on most of the power in this country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Start focusing on electing more people who actually have the people's (all the people, not just their specific constituents, mind) best interest at heart and you can have effective change. The problem is that the person you want to elect will lose to someone who selfishly serves their constituents, because their constituents vote for them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago What about of those candidates are never on my ballots? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering the Senate is just two assholes per state and the House would have over a 1,000 members if we had the same ratio as 1789 I'd expand that to all three branches. It's not a legitimate government, but we all pretend it is. Especially the people with guns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk about that. Maybe, but if we keep doing the same thing expecting different results, we’re definitely not getting them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) The problem is you're only focusing on one branch. Congress has an amazing amount of power... the problem is a majority of them are really only concerned with their own piece of the United States of Pie. Their first, second, and only concern is being re-electable. Start focusing on electing more people who actually have the people's (all the people, not just their specific constituents, mind) best interest at heart and you can have effective change. Constantly focusing on the Presidential election, and only the Presidential election and you lose out on most of the power in this country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Start focusing on electing more people who actually have the people's (all the people, not just their specific constituents, mind) best interest at heart and you can have effective change. The problem is that the person you want to elect will lose to someone who selfishly serves their constituents, because their constituents vote for them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago What about of those candidates are never on my ballots? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorque@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) The problem is you're only focusing on one branch. Congress has an amazing amount of power... the problem is a majority of them are really only concerned with their own piece of the United States of Pie. Their first, second, and only concern is being re-electable. Start focusing on electing more people who actually have the people's (all the people, not just their specific constituents, mind) best interest at heart and you can have effective change. Constantly focusing on the Presidential election, and only the Presidential election and you lose out on most of the power in this country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Start focusing on electing more people who actually have the people's (all the people, not just their specific constituents, mind) best interest at heart and you can have effective change. The problem is that the person you want to elect will lose to someone who selfishly serves their constituents, because their constituents vote for them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago What about of those candidates are never on my ballots? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Start focusing on electing more people who actually have the people's (all the people, not just their specific constituents, mind) best interest at heart and you can have effective change. The problem is that the person you want to elect will lose to someone who selfishly serves their constituents, because their constituents vote for them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago What about of those candidates are never on my ballots? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone wants a third party, but not everyone wants the same third party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago That’s true but many actual leftists will coalesce behind a better option. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago That’s true but many actual leftists will coalesce behind a better option. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorque@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago No they wouldn't, it would, at most, be a deadlock between the three parties that the House would decide on. One would hope they would go with the one with the most votes, but in reality they can pick anyone. Including someone who wasn't even one of the top three candidates. Not to mention all the people who want a "third party" aren't necessarily going to vote for the same third party. They all want their own person. Most likely none of them would get anywhere near the majority popular vote, much less any electoral votes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] seathru@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) what are the Democrat voters going to do, vote 3rd party? Sit on their hands like they did in 2016. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the election that had record voter turnout all over the country? Is that what sitting on your hands means? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago And yet still barely two-thirds of people eligible to vote. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the election that had record voter turnout all over the country? Is that what sitting on your hands means? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago And yet still barely two-thirds of people eligible to vote. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorque@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago And yet still barely two-thirds of people eligible to vote. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) They could vote for any of the other DNC candidates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Unless you’re in Nee Hampshire right? Or like we saw with Bernie, they’ll sabotage your campaign and rig the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Unless you’re in Nee Hampshire right? Or like we saw with Bernie, they’ll sabotage your campaign and rig the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent