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[β] PopMyCop@iusearchlinux.fyi 21 points 2 years ago (4 children) I think an arch user would know to wear the antistatic band on the wrist that's grounded... but maybe that's just me. /pretentious_sniff permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Would they? Arch users strike me as coming in two flavors. Competent users who have a significant amount of IT knowledge, that happen to enjoy an incredibly lightweight Linux distro which is fully configurable. This group is akin to a racecar driver with a project car in their garage. Random people who lack basic knowledge but drink whatever Kool aid they're given, and just happened to fall into a FOSS community where that Kool aid was Linux. They install Arch because someone said it's the best, and their ability to do so gives them an air of superiority and the belief that they're competent like group 1. This group is more like a teenager with a KIA, who believes their glued-on hood scoop gives them more horsepower. Due to social media the second group far outpaces the first. So I'd wager most of them don't even know what the acronym ESD stands for, let alone how grounding works in basic electrical theory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So I'd wager most of them don't even know what the acronym ESD stands for, let alone how grounding works in basic electrical theory. Grounding moves the magic smoke from one component to another, preferably, to one you don't own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No, no, you want to keep the magic smoke inside your components! Sheesh, noobs these days... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago Of course, but you wanna move it to another location, like your pesky neighbour's computer. permalink fedilink source parent [β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) you forgot about the part of the arch community where we forcibly require arch users to manually install arch linux. You don't just wake up and accidentally install arch linux manually, you have to know what you're doing, even if being a bumbling idiot during the process, you're still doing it the hard way. Jokes aside, arch by nature is more tempting to "real linux users" the average "i use linux kid" is going to use kali or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn't say group 2 did it accidentally, I said they pretend that the specific skillset required to install Arch via terminal somehow means they're certified professional IT. All you know is how to use a CLI specifically with Linux syntax, that's a good start but it's somewhat like pretending you're a mechanic because you know how to change a tire. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago i meant accidentally as hyperbole. The point being if you managed to install arch manually that you had some level of knowledge. Or at least gained it through the experience. I'd say it's more like pretending you're a mechanic while having a fairly comprehensive understanding of how cars work. The difference here is the environment, and the experience. You aren't gonna become an IT professional unless you've had years in the industry or "certification" anyway. But you can certainly roll your own maintenance if you tried. That is also downplaying a manual install of arch quite a bit, but that's beyond the point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] poinck@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There was a day, when I woke up and accidentily installed Gentoo. It is so sticky, still running on my PCs since more than 15 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago it was simply meant to be. You cannot question it now. permalink fedilink source parent [β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Trust me, there is no need for that nowadays, most components have serious anti-static protection in them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wasn't really all that needed even twenty years ago, you could keep yourself grounded to the case easily without one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, do agree. Grounding your wrists has been pretty much obsolte for the past 20 years or so. In the 80's, 90's, yeah, it was preferable that you're grounded. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just quickly touch the earth pin in the nearest outlet. I don't think it does anything, but it can't hurt either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] systemglitch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Just touch the PSU. It's grounded and then you are as well then Touch it regularly and static never builds up. I live in a super dry place with static sparking on the sheets when I move, so these are actual words of wisdom. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) is that necessary with the gloves? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Duh, the whole maid outfit is purely functional permalink fedilink source parent [β] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Fabric friction creates static charge, so it would be worse. permalink fedilink source parent [β] femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago having worn gloves like that, if i were to work on a computer wearing them that would be the first time i'd actually bother using an electrostatic bracelette permalink fedilink source parent
[β] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Would they? Arch users strike me as coming in two flavors. Competent users who have a significant amount of IT knowledge, that happen to enjoy an incredibly lightweight Linux distro which is fully configurable. This group is akin to a racecar driver with a project car in their garage. Random people who lack basic knowledge but drink whatever Kool aid they're given, and just happened to fall into a FOSS community where that Kool aid was Linux. They install Arch because someone said it's the best, and their ability to do so gives them an air of superiority and the belief that they're competent like group 1. This group is more like a teenager with a KIA, who believes their glued-on hood scoop gives them more horsepower. Due to social media the second group far outpaces the first. So I'd wager most of them don't even know what the acronym ESD stands for, let alone how grounding works in basic electrical theory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So I'd wager most of them don't even know what the acronym ESD stands for, let alone how grounding works in basic electrical theory. Grounding moves the magic smoke from one component to another, preferably, to one you don't own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No, no, you want to keep the magic smoke inside your components! Sheesh, noobs these days... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago Of course, but you wanna move it to another location, like your pesky neighbour's computer. permalink fedilink source parent [β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) you forgot about the part of the arch community where we forcibly require arch users to manually install arch linux. You don't just wake up and accidentally install arch linux manually, you have to know what you're doing, even if being a bumbling idiot during the process, you're still doing it the hard way. Jokes aside, arch by nature is more tempting to "real linux users" the average "i use linux kid" is going to use kali or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn't say group 2 did it accidentally, I said they pretend that the specific skillset required to install Arch via terminal somehow means they're certified professional IT. All you know is how to use a CLI specifically with Linux syntax, that's a good start but it's somewhat like pretending you're a mechanic because you know how to change a tire. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago i meant accidentally as hyperbole. The point being if you managed to install arch manually that you had some level of knowledge. Or at least gained it through the experience. I'd say it's more like pretending you're a mechanic while having a fairly comprehensive understanding of how cars work. The difference here is the environment, and the experience. You aren't gonna become an IT professional unless you've had years in the industry or "certification" anyway. But you can certainly roll your own maintenance if you tried. That is also downplaying a manual install of arch quite a bit, but that's beyond the point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] poinck@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There was a day, when I woke up and accidentily installed Gentoo. It is so sticky, still running on my PCs since more than 15 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago it was simply meant to be. You cannot question it now. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So I'd wager most of them don't even know what the acronym ESD stands for, let alone how grounding works in basic electrical theory. Grounding moves the magic smoke from one component to another, preferably, to one you don't own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No, no, you want to keep the magic smoke inside your components! Sheesh, noobs these days... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago Of course, but you wanna move it to another location, like your pesky neighbour's computer. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No, no, you want to keep the magic smoke inside your components! Sheesh, noobs these days... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago Of course, but you wanna move it to another location, like your pesky neighbour's computer. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago Of course, but you wanna move it to another location, like your pesky neighbour's computer. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) you forgot about the part of the arch community where we forcibly require arch users to manually install arch linux. You don't just wake up and accidentally install arch linux manually, you have to know what you're doing, even if being a bumbling idiot during the process, you're still doing it the hard way. Jokes aside, arch by nature is more tempting to "real linux users" the average "i use linux kid" is going to use kali or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn't say group 2 did it accidentally, I said they pretend that the specific skillset required to install Arch via terminal somehow means they're certified professional IT. All you know is how to use a CLI specifically with Linux syntax, that's a good start but it's somewhat like pretending you're a mechanic because you know how to change a tire. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago i meant accidentally as hyperbole. The point being if you managed to install arch manually that you had some level of knowledge. Or at least gained it through the experience. I'd say it's more like pretending you're a mechanic while having a fairly comprehensive understanding of how cars work. The difference here is the environment, and the experience. You aren't gonna become an IT professional unless you've had years in the industry or "certification" anyway. But you can certainly roll your own maintenance if you tried. That is also downplaying a manual install of arch quite a bit, but that's beyond the point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] poinck@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There was a day, when I woke up and accidentily installed Gentoo. It is so sticky, still running on my PCs since more than 15 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago it was simply meant to be. You cannot question it now. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn't say group 2 did it accidentally, I said they pretend that the specific skillset required to install Arch via terminal somehow means they're certified professional IT. All you know is how to use a CLI specifically with Linux syntax, that's a good start but it's somewhat like pretending you're a mechanic because you know how to change a tire. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago i meant accidentally as hyperbole. The point being if you managed to install arch manually that you had some level of knowledge. Or at least gained it through the experience. I'd say it's more like pretending you're a mechanic while having a fairly comprehensive understanding of how cars work. The difference here is the environment, and the experience. You aren't gonna become an IT professional unless you've had years in the industry or "certification" anyway. But you can certainly roll your own maintenance if you tried. That is also downplaying a manual install of arch quite a bit, but that's beyond the point. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago i meant accidentally as hyperbole. The point being if you managed to install arch manually that you had some level of knowledge. Or at least gained it through the experience. I'd say it's more like pretending you're a mechanic while having a fairly comprehensive understanding of how cars work. The difference here is the environment, and the experience. You aren't gonna become an IT professional unless you've had years in the industry or "certification" anyway. But you can certainly roll your own maintenance if you tried. That is also downplaying a manual install of arch quite a bit, but that's beyond the point. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] poinck@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There was a day, when I woke up and accidentily installed Gentoo. It is so sticky, still running on my PCs since more than 15 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago it was simply meant to be. You cannot question it now. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago it was simply meant to be. You cannot question it now. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Trust me, there is no need for that nowadays, most components have serious anti-static protection in them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wasn't really all that needed even twenty years ago, you could keep yourself grounded to the case easily without one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, do agree. Grounding your wrists has been pretty much obsolte for the past 20 years or so. In the 80's, 90's, yeah, it was preferable that you're grounded. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wasn't really all that needed even twenty years ago, you could keep yourself grounded to the case easily without one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, do agree. Grounding your wrists has been pretty much obsolte for the past 20 years or so. In the 80's, 90's, yeah, it was preferable that you're grounded. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, do agree. Grounding your wrists has been pretty much obsolte for the past 20 years or so. In the 80's, 90's, yeah, it was preferable that you're grounded. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just quickly touch the earth pin in the nearest outlet. I don't think it does anything, but it can't hurt either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] systemglitch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Just touch the PSU. It's grounded and then you are as well then Touch it regularly and static never builds up. I live in a super dry place with static sparking on the sheets when I move, so these are actual words of wisdom. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] systemglitch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Just touch the PSU. It's grounded and then you are as well then Touch it regularly and static never builds up. I live in a super dry place with static sparking on the sheets when I move, so these are actual words of wisdom. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) is that necessary with the gloves? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Duh, the whole maid outfit is purely functional permalink fedilink source parent [β] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Fabric friction creates static charge, so it would be worse. permalink fedilink source parent [β] femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago having worn gloves like that, if i were to work on a computer wearing them that would be the first time i'd actually bother using an electrostatic bracelette permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Duh, the whole maid outfit is purely functional permalink fedilink source parent
[β] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Fabric friction creates static charge, so it would be worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago having worn gloves like that, if i were to work on a computer wearing them that would be the first time i'd actually bother using an electrostatic bracelette permalink fedilink source parent