▲ 829 ▼ Nightshade, the free tool that ‘poisons’ AI models, is now available for artists to use (venturebeat.com) submitted 2 years ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/technology@lemmy.world 276 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] h3rm17@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) Your opinion, not a fact. Most art is as derivative or more than AI art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] daellat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago How can any human made art be more derivative than ai art that's impossible permalink fedilink source parent [+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hadriscus@lemm.ee -22 points 2 years ago (4 children) No, that's fact. AI-generated images aren't art. They're hallucinations without meaning or purpose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] zwaetschgeraeuber@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago you need to learn the difference between opinion and fact then permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Just because some creator (or in your words hallucinator) did not intend meaning, does not prohibit or somehow prevent any beholder to still derive or instill meaning. Your weird comment is also art. The webpage or app we are viewing it on is art. Remember this?. The definition you use may suit you personally, but words are for communicating with others, and to most others it's definition will be crucially different than yours. Consider adjusting your view or the words you use. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if it's 50/50 text-to-image and manual brush work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shifted_drifter@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then it's multimedia art permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Does it stay multimedia art till it's 99% text-to-image or is there a cutoff?! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stupid opinion. If I ask AI to draw an image, that has no meaning or purpose? So if I did the exact same thing with a pencil then it's suddenly art? AI is just a tool and people like you need to get over it or fully commit and say anything digital isn't art because a computer really did it. Anything made in Photoshop can't be art according to you because a program made it. Blender renders aren't art because a computer generated it. All you did in either case was tell it what to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you reply to people this way in person ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they're stupid yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) ok, well I guess good luck in this world permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago You too. Maybe stop presenting your opinions as facts and maybe you'll get a better reply next time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] h3rm17@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) Your opinion, not a fact. Most art is as derivative or more than AI art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] daellat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago How can any human made art be more derivative than ai art that's impossible permalink fedilink source parent [+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hadriscus@lemm.ee -22 points 2 years ago (4 children) No, that's fact. AI-generated images aren't art. They're hallucinations without meaning or purpose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] zwaetschgeraeuber@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago you need to learn the difference between opinion and fact then permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Just because some creator (or in your words hallucinator) did not intend meaning, does not prohibit or somehow prevent any beholder to still derive or instill meaning. Your weird comment is also art. The webpage or app we are viewing it on is art. Remember this?. The definition you use may suit you personally, but words are for communicating with others, and to most others it's definition will be crucially different than yours. Consider adjusting your view or the words you use. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if it's 50/50 text-to-image and manual brush work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shifted_drifter@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then it's multimedia art permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Does it stay multimedia art till it's 99% text-to-image or is there a cutoff?! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stupid opinion. If I ask AI to draw an image, that has no meaning or purpose? So if I did the exact same thing with a pencil then it's suddenly art? AI is just a tool and people like you need to get over it or fully commit and say anything digital isn't art because a computer really did it. Anything made in Photoshop can't be art according to you because a program made it. Blender renders aren't art because a computer generated it. All you did in either case was tell it what to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you reply to people this way in person ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they're stupid yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) ok, well I guess good luck in this world permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago You too. Maybe stop presenting your opinions as facts and maybe you'll get a better reply next time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daellat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago How can any human made art be more derivative than ai art that's impossible permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hadriscus@lemm.ee -22 points 2 years ago (4 children) No, that's fact. AI-generated images aren't art. They're hallucinations without meaning or purpose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] zwaetschgeraeuber@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago you need to learn the difference between opinion and fact then permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Just because some creator (or in your words hallucinator) did not intend meaning, does not prohibit or somehow prevent any beholder to still derive or instill meaning. Your weird comment is also art. The webpage or app we are viewing it on is art. Remember this?. The definition you use may suit you personally, but words are for communicating with others, and to most others it's definition will be crucially different than yours. Consider adjusting your view or the words you use. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if it's 50/50 text-to-image and manual brush work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shifted_drifter@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then it's multimedia art permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Does it stay multimedia art till it's 99% text-to-image or is there a cutoff?! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stupid opinion. If I ask AI to draw an image, that has no meaning or purpose? So if I did the exact same thing with a pencil then it's suddenly art? AI is just a tool and people like you need to get over it or fully commit and say anything digital isn't art because a computer really did it. Anything made in Photoshop can't be art according to you because a program made it. Blender renders aren't art because a computer generated it. All you did in either case was tell it what to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you reply to people this way in person ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they're stupid yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) ok, well I guess good luck in this world permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago You too. Maybe stop presenting your opinions as facts and maybe you'll get a better reply next time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zwaetschgeraeuber@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago you need to learn the difference between opinion and fact then permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Just because some creator (or in your words hallucinator) did not intend meaning, does not prohibit or somehow prevent any beholder to still derive or instill meaning. Your weird comment is also art. The webpage or app we are viewing it on is art. Remember this?. The definition you use may suit you personally, but words are for communicating with others, and to most others it's definition will be crucially different than yours. Consider adjusting your view or the words you use. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if it's 50/50 text-to-image and manual brush work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shifted_drifter@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then it's multimedia art permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Does it stay multimedia art till it's 99% text-to-image or is there a cutoff?! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shifted_drifter@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then it's multimedia art permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Does it stay multimedia art till it's 99% text-to-image or is there a cutoff?! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Does it stay multimedia art till it's 99% text-to-image or is there a cutoff?! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stupid opinion. If I ask AI to draw an image, that has no meaning or purpose? So if I did the exact same thing with a pencil then it's suddenly art? AI is just a tool and people like you need to get over it or fully commit and say anything digital isn't art because a computer really did it. Anything made in Photoshop can't be art according to you because a program made it. Blender renders aren't art because a computer generated it. All you did in either case was tell it what to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you reply to people this way in person ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they're stupid yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) ok, well I guess good luck in this world permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago You too. Maybe stop presenting your opinions as facts and maybe you'll get a better reply next time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you reply to people this way in person ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they're stupid yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) ok, well I guess good luck in this world permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago You too. Maybe stop presenting your opinions as facts and maybe you'll get a better reply next time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they're stupid yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) ok, well I guess good luck in this world permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago You too. Maybe stop presenting your opinions as facts and maybe you'll get a better reply next time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) ok, well I guess good luck in this world permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago You too. Maybe stop presenting your opinions as facts and maybe you'll get a better reply next time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago You too. Maybe stop presenting your opinions as facts and maybe you'll get a better reply next time. permalink fedilink source parent