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I hope someday we'll find a way to pirated a car (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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[–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Soon, auto manufacturers will learn what happens when buying isn't owning.

People will definitely download a car, or the crack for all its features.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think sooner or later open source cars will be a thing. The problem (well, it's a good thing) is that cars need to pass inspection to be road ready. But not bike-like vehicles.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This might shock you but cars where open source for years. Did you think those super detailed shop manuals anyone could buy where not intended to be used to work on the car? How about the massive aftermarket and any and all hot rods? This idea that you can't fuck with you own stuff because its got a computer in it for "safety" is relatively new. Does no one else remember hooking a laptop up to the old ECUs and modifying how the engine works?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    You can absolutely fuck with your car and install after market parts. But your car still needs to pass a minimum level of road safety. That's for the common good. I mean things like having correct lights, crumple zones, brakes, mirrors etc. Now if you want to make a car that runs on used kit hen scraps I totally think you should. We should own. Own devices including their computer system. But I don't just the average Joe with the parts that keep me safe from them.

    Also, this might not shock you, but cars also used to suck in many ways. Not everything from the past is good.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    That’s for the common good

    The issue is normalizing the concept that you do not get to control what you paid for. Responsibility has not changed, you can drive your car into a crowded park and would still be guilty of it regardless of how stock it is. If you mod your stuff to be dangerous that would be a crime. In this case would you say that remote starting your car from your phone somehow is a public safety issue? At least if you jailbroke it to work on your own network?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Good luck trying to do that

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Well it is a computer that people own (even if it is in a car), and at least one person will want to mess with that computer.

    Remind me again what assumptions you can make about software integrity if the hardware it runs on is in full possession of a known attacker?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Auto manufacturers are notorious for having terrible security. It'll be a cakewalk for innovators.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Sure, start sharing what car has been hacked. Any? No? But autos have had computers for years, why havent they been hacked?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Are you just posting incorrect information to get someone to list all of the current vulnerabilities?Here you go.

    Jeep Cherokee: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/

    Tesla Models: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-16203/Tesla.html?page=1&order=1&trc=13&sha=73e27d3898b2b240263e0f443513b5e8f9073841

    Volkswagen Group Cars: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-17738/Volkswagen.html?page=1&order=1&trc=2&sha=0a9d8cfebb47ff684cd74be5616ee6ca4ec210f6

    BMW Cars: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-18059/BMW.html?page=1&order=1&trc=7&sha=acf406b1442448d1c40b22f3f73a5647c3fafed7

    SiriusXM (Connected Vehicle Service) (9 different brands): https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/3/23491259/sirius-xm-hack-remotely-unlock-start-cars

    Thanks for the good laugh.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Lol, someone "hacked" a car so they can turn it off is not the same as building a whole OS for a car. Or are you exited about connecting to SirusXM ??

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