In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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[–] 87 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The only problem with services as a subscription is THE FUCKING IDIOTS THAT PAY FOR THEM

If nobody fell for shit like that, manufacturers would drop it like boiling diarrhea

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  • [+] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    When you buy the car, you also pay for that integrated, albeit disable, service. To enable it you have to pay a subscription. I agree with the OP. This should never be the case. Now, the culprit is not the car manufacturer, but the people that pay for it. If nobody, or aven few people, paid for this, they wouldn't have a business for that and they would likely stop. Bottom line is, you don't like it? Give your money to another brand.

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    Until they take that away from the fobs

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    I'll take that bet in the next ~10 years.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is true.

    Go and buy a car from a manufacturer who doesn't insist on subscriptions... whilst you still can!

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is where capitalism is failing because people are dumb 🤷

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is where capitalism is thriving because people are dumb

    Fixed. It thrives on human stupidity and laziness

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    It would be reasonable if what that app did was anything that actually needed internet servers to work. Why not just pair up the phone with the car, ad-hoc like you could with a PSP, or any sort of peer-to-peer between car-phone, and call it a day? Oh, right, because then you can't create a service you can charge monthly for.

    That people are willing to pay for effectively a remote temperature control and shutdown timer, that does not need to be an internet service to work properly, can and should be dunked on.

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