▲ 175 ▼ What is Tom Bombadil? (lemm.ee) submitted 3 years ago by abbadon420@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml 91 comments fedilink hide all child comments He is not a hobbit, neither a man, but what is he? Is he a dwarf? A wizard? A god? Something else entirely?
[–] Ransom@lemmy.one 51 points 3 years ago (4 children) He’s Q but it’s TLOTR permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] abbadon420@lemm.ee [S] 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's blasphemy, but funny permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Freeman@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago Blasphemy is always funny permalink fedilink source parent [–] red@feddit.de 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Do we know for sure that Star Trek and LOTR don't play in the same universe? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamer@lemm.ee 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) In Star Trek Enterprise, there’s an episode where the crew finds a planet being ravaged by disease. Bizarrely, the planet has two humanoid species: one dominant (intelligent, technologically advanced) and one less dominant (less evolved brains). The captain mentions that in every planet they’ve encountered, only one humanoid species survives the process of evolution. Well, it turns out that the disease is genetic, it only affects the currently-dominant species, and they will go extinct in a few centuries because of it. The same evolutionary phenomenon that explorers encountered countless times before on other planets was happening right before their eyes. Middle Earth has like at least 3 humanoid species (Man, Elf, Dwarf), more if you count Hobbits and Orcs. That’s totally incompatible with Star Trek lore! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.social 18 points 3 years ago Well when we see the story of LotR, the elves and dwarves are disappearing - maybe it's the Trek rule happening in front of us again! Orcs certainly don't seem to fare well during it either. Hobbit are disappearing too, if they're to be counted as separate to humans at all. It's very much becoming a world of humans when the plot of LotR happens permalink fedilink source parent [–] red@feddit.de 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But you just explained it yourself. Currently there >1 humanoid species on planet "Middle Earth", but over time there will likely only be 1 for one reason or another (diseases, dominant races doing the good old genocide, etc.) So either the Enterprise / Federation hasn't found the planet yet (and it will become the first planet with this many humanoid species on it) or LOTR and ENT simply don't play at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, LOTR and Star Trek being in the same universe doesn't mean they play out at the same time and in the same place. Maybe LOTR takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. . . . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 years ago What is this, a crossover episode? permalink fedilink source parent [–] HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) What about the Xindi? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamer@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Maybe the other races don't count as "humanoid"? The dolphin people definitely wouldn't be considered humanoid at least, neither would the ents in middle earth I guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago Would say Tom is chaotic-good, while Q on the other hand might be chaotic-neutral? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) Why didn't he give the hobbits some neat gadgets then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LiquorFan@pathfinder.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) He did, wraith-killing swords for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Good point. I wasn't thinking when I posted that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee [S] 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's blasphemy, but funny permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Freeman@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago Blasphemy is always funny permalink fedilink source parent
[–] red@feddit.de 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Do we know for sure that Star Trek and LOTR don't play in the same universe? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamer@lemm.ee 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) In Star Trek Enterprise, there’s an episode where the crew finds a planet being ravaged by disease. Bizarrely, the planet has two humanoid species: one dominant (intelligent, technologically advanced) and one less dominant (less evolved brains). The captain mentions that in every planet they’ve encountered, only one humanoid species survives the process of evolution. Well, it turns out that the disease is genetic, it only affects the currently-dominant species, and they will go extinct in a few centuries because of it. The same evolutionary phenomenon that explorers encountered countless times before on other planets was happening right before their eyes. Middle Earth has like at least 3 humanoid species (Man, Elf, Dwarf), more if you count Hobbits and Orcs. That’s totally incompatible with Star Trek lore! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.social 18 points 3 years ago Well when we see the story of LotR, the elves and dwarves are disappearing - maybe it's the Trek rule happening in front of us again! Orcs certainly don't seem to fare well during it either. Hobbit are disappearing too, if they're to be counted as separate to humans at all. It's very much becoming a world of humans when the plot of LotR happens permalink fedilink source parent [–] red@feddit.de 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But you just explained it yourself. Currently there >1 humanoid species on planet "Middle Earth", but over time there will likely only be 1 for one reason or another (diseases, dominant races doing the good old genocide, etc.) So either the Enterprise / Federation hasn't found the planet yet (and it will become the first planet with this many humanoid species on it) or LOTR and ENT simply don't play at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, LOTR and Star Trek being in the same universe doesn't mean they play out at the same time and in the same place. Maybe LOTR takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. . . . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 years ago What is this, a crossover episode? permalink fedilink source parent [–] HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) What about the Xindi? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamer@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Maybe the other races don't count as "humanoid"? The dolphin people definitely wouldn't be considered humanoid at least, neither would the ents in middle earth I guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gamer@lemm.ee 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) In Star Trek Enterprise, there’s an episode where the crew finds a planet being ravaged by disease. Bizarrely, the planet has two humanoid species: one dominant (intelligent, technologically advanced) and one less dominant (less evolved brains). The captain mentions that in every planet they’ve encountered, only one humanoid species survives the process of evolution. Well, it turns out that the disease is genetic, it only affects the currently-dominant species, and they will go extinct in a few centuries because of it. The same evolutionary phenomenon that explorers encountered countless times before on other planets was happening right before their eyes. Middle Earth has like at least 3 humanoid species (Man, Elf, Dwarf), more if you count Hobbits and Orcs. That’s totally incompatible with Star Trek lore! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.social 18 points 3 years ago Well when we see the story of LotR, the elves and dwarves are disappearing - maybe it's the Trek rule happening in front of us again! Orcs certainly don't seem to fare well during it either. Hobbit are disappearing too, if they're to be counted as separate to humans at all. It's very much becoming a world of humans when the plot of LotR happens permalink fedilink source parent [–] red@feddit.de 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But you just explained it yourself. Currently there >1 humanoid species on planet "Middle Earth", but over time there will likely only be 1 for one reason or another (diseases, dominant races doing the good old genocide, etc.) So either the Enterprise / Federation hasn't found the planet yet (and it will become the first planet with this many humanoid species on it) or LOTR and ENT simply don't play at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, LOTR and Star Trek being in the same universe doesn't mean they play out at the same time and in the same place. Maybe LOTR takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. . . . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 years ago What is this, a crossover episode? permalink fedilink source parent [–] HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) What about the Xindi? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamer@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Maybe the other races don't count as "humanoid"? The dolphin people definitely wouldn't be considered humanoid at least, neither would the ents in middle earth I guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skua@kbin.social 18 points 3 years ago Well when we see the story of LotR, the elves and dwarves are disappearing - maybe it's the Trek rule happening in front of us again! Orcs certainly don't seem to fare well during it either. Hobbit are disappearing too, if they're to be counted as separate to humans at all. It's very much becoming a world of humans when the plot of LotR happens permalink fedilink source parent
[–] red@feddit.de 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But you just explained it yourself. Currently there >1 humanoid species on planet "Middle Earth", but over time there will likely only be 1 for one reason or another (diseases, dominant races doing the good old genocide, etc.) So either the Enterprise / Federation hasn't found the planet yet (and it will become the first planet with this many humanoid species on it) or LOTR and ENT simply don't play at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, LOTR and Star Trek being in the same universe doesn't mean they play out at the same time and in the same place. Maybe LOTR takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. . . . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 years ago What is this, a crossover episode? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, LOTR and Star Trek being in the same universe doesn't mean they play out at the same time and in the same place. Maybe LOTR takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. . . . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 years ago What is this, a crossover episode? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 years ago What is this, a crossover episode? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) What about the Xindi? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamer@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Maybe the other races don't count as "humanoid"? The dolphin people definitely wouldn't be considered humanoid at least, neither would the ents in middle earth I guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gamer@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Maybe the other races don't count as "humanoid"? The dolphin people definitely wouldn't be considered humanoid at least, neither would the ents in middle earth I guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago Would say Tom is chaotic-good, while Q on the other hand might be chaotic-neutral? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) Why didn't he give the hobbits some neat gadgets then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LiquorFan@pathfinder.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) He did, wraith-killing swords for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Good point. I wasn't thinking when I posted that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LiquorFan@pathfinder.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) He did, wraith-killing swords for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Good point. I wasn't thinking when I posted that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Good point. I wasn't thinking when I posted that. permalink fedilink source parent