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Know your genocide apologists (media.kbin.social)
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[–] 14 points 3 years ago (5 children)

Communists don't defend Russia

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  • [–] [S] 41 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Communists shouldn't defend the Russian Federation. Yet for inexplicable reasons, many self-proclaimed communists online do so. Typically they're tankies with all sorts of other problematic opinions.

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  • [+] -11 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Well American conservatives also defend Russia, that doesn't mean they're communists

    So stop associating things

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I think you're a little confused. I never claimed all Russian supporters were communists, or vice-versa for that matter.

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  • [+] -13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    I have literally never seen it.

    I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it doesn't happen in the places I frequent - and I frequent a LOT of Leftist communities.

    Edit: People are pointing to the Tankies Lemmy community. The place designed for tankies. I'm not arguing they don't exist. I'm aruing against the people saying they're all over the place and pervasive in other communities and that they're not a commonality and not the usual communist/socialist.

    Pointing to the Tankies communities doesn't change anything I've said.

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  • [–] [S] 26 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I have literally never seen it.

    I have no clue how that's possible considering how the Ukraine war has caused their apologia to crawl out of the woodwork.

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  • [+] -9 points 3 years ago* (1 child)
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  • [–] [S] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Okay? But the people we're talking about think Ukraine should be invaded by Russia.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I'm an unabashed leftist who has been active in leftist spaces online since "leftist spaces online" meant particular groups on usenet and I see Russia apologists masquerading as socialists almost every day

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  • [+] -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It's rampant in certain ML communities. A lot of people are so caught up in their reasonable opposition to the US, it's foreign policy and the military industrial complex that they start to see any US enemy in a positive light, despite many of those enemies being significantly worse.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Which communities. Someone else pointed to that same community - and I looked at a post and saw nothing but support for Ukraine.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    What do you want me to see here?

    I think you meant to link a Lemmy post - but accidentally posted the article from the Lemmy post instead of the comments themselves.

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  • [+] -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] [S] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    That's tankies. Not all communists are tankies. Tankies are just incredibly loud. And love to brigade.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I think the problem is that the meme chooses to use the term "communist" rather than "tankie." No principled communist would defend a plutocratic petrol state like current day Russia, unless they simply opposed the west more than they supported Marxism. It seems like this meme is targeted at centrist Americans and right wing liberals who think poorly of communism because they were alive during the Cold War, and think antifa hurts their cause more than they help. The peacenik one is pretty spot on, but the first two kind of suck.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 years ago

    No arguments there, the first two def could've done with better labels. I'm just shitposting from my 'best of' folders while the Fediverse finds its feet, not a content creator, so I do apologize for the problems caused by the share.

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