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What would get you "back to the office"? (midwest.social)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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There are a lot of news articles about "back to the office", but they recirculate the same bad ideas. Let's provide some new ideas for the media to circulate. It may also have the effect of making the office less terrible.

I would like my work computer to do Windows updates lightning quick in the office. It currently takes weeks, in or out of the office. Stopping in for a day makes no difference, so there is no point. Now, if there was a point, I would go in.

What would get you in the office?

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[โ€“] 4 points 3 years ago (4 children)

What job do you have that 4x10-3 would be a reasonable option? Coming from someone who works 5x6a-6p (though this week it's been more like 6a-8p) those hours seem like a fairytale.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 3 years ago*

    Given that they also talk about finishing their work with nothing to do, I'm guessing they work one of those jobs that doesn't actually need so many employees but has to have them or are held back by the lowest performers.

    The idea of "completing all my tasks" is a silly one to me, since my product has an endless stream of work where we can't do all the things we want to do. If I managed to finish all the things I personally planned to do, that would mean nothing as that's just my personal plan and there's a virtually endless backlog. This has been the case for every job I've had as a software engineer.

    Most employers I think pay for time, anyway, not tasks. Even when salaried, it's a salary intended based on time you'd generally work. And if this wasn't the case, many people (myself included) would be penalized for delays.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    That's more like part-time honestly, doesn't make any sense. But your hours are intense. I did that 50/60 hours a week years ago, I'll never do that again. I'm at 35 now and considering asking for a 4 day 32 hours schedule next year. And I WFH full time. I'm done organizing my life around work.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    A friend from college does software dev for a place that does 4x10-4 and he said the way the fixed issues was by asking for ROI on everything you do. Need to schedule a meeting? Is it worth the cost of people's time? If so make sure you get the right people, habe everything planned out before calling it so you get your work done promptly.

    At first everyone was like fuck, more crap you have to do. But eventually they figured out that much of their time was wasted on crap no one needed to do. Some people stuck around for an hour or two after work to hang out and others took back their lives. Productivity actually increased because people were not as burned out.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    That sounds very satisfying, wow! I swear to god, half the meetings I attend are just soooo unproductive. Talk about this project, where we were, where we are, where we are going. But it always ends up that I have to jog people's memory, ask why what was supposed to get done didn't and when it will be. Rinse and repeat. I love that approach, makes people accountable and saves everyone's time.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    As for jogging people's memories...

    So whenever i have to get approval from higher ups that i know they will forget and get annoyed about it i ask that they all stand up and state "i agree / approve to XYZ." People will laugh and say "really?!?".

    At my last job one of my bosses decided on something that went against what all us in engineering said. So i told him to stand up in front of everyone and say "i acknowledge that this goes against the suggestions by engineering but I would like the team to implement.... whatever the feature was." Two months later he came to a meeting all pissed about how this feature wasn't working and when he saw me enter the meeting he said "fuck, this is my fault isn't it?"

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, part of it is that I'm in a medical field and still in school. Unfortunately my hours are going to get worse with internship/residency before they get better. Even still, 4x10-3 would never (honestly could never) happen in my field.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 3 years ago*

    I'm a lead software developer. Finally working a place where we do reasonable schedules with a good amount of padding for problems popping up.

    If i wasnt in pointless meetings and focused on actual productive time thats about what most of my team does and we hit all our schedules.

    When i worked at Samsung they were doing 4 day weeks and no one was doing 8hr days

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