โฒ 519 โผ Six in ten people want UK to re-join the European Union (omnisis.co.uk) submitted 3 years ago by CAVOK@lemmy.world to c/europe@feddit.de 84 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[โ] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 16 points 3 years ago (1 child) The problem is that no one knew what leaving like like, in part because the Leave camp danced around it. If Leave had to campaign against the actual terms, the vote would have failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Syndic@feddit.de 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) No one knew? I'm sorry but pretty much every single repercussion the UK is feeling right now was rather obvious when you take the time to think on it and consider the EU's point of view as well. The only people who are surprised about stuff like being treated like every other outside country by the EU were the ones who didn't think one second about it and wanted to believe the lies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] evilgiraffe666@ttrpg.network 5 points 3 years ago That it would be shitty was obvious. But exactly how shitty was impossible to nail down, and hence impossible to argue against effectively. Every different Brexiteer had a different idea of the outcome, which changed under any kind of pressure. They hid behind non-statements like "Brexit means Brexit". Why do you think it took so long and so much arguing to get to any kind of agreement afterwards? We knew they were going to trash a load of laws and retain some, but couldn't know which because the Leave camp didn't have a plan or a manifesto. They had a bus, but we know how accurate that was. Or are you arguing that they should be allowed to blatantly lie in political campaigns and we should expect the populace to know in advance which ones are false? People are not that smart. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Syndic@feddit.de 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) No one knew? I'm sorry but pretty much every single repercussion the UK is feeling right now was rather obvious when you take the time to think on it and consider the EU's point of view as well. The only people who are surprised about stuff like being treated like every other outside country by the EU were the ones who didn't think one second about it and wanted to believe the lies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] evilgiraffe666@ttrpg.network 5 points 3 years ago That it would be shitty was obvious. But exactly how shitty was impossible to nail down, and hence impossible to argue against effectively. Every different Brexiteer had a different idea of the outcome, which changed under any kind of pressure. They hid behind non-statements like "Brexit means Brexit". Why do you think it took so long and so much arguing to get to any kind of agreement afterwards? We knew they were going to trash a load of laws and retain some, but couldn't know which because the Leave camp didn't have a plan or a manifesto. They had a bus, but we know how accurate that was. Or are you arguing that they should be allowed to blatantly lie in political campaigns and we should expect the populace to know in advance which ones are false? People are not that smart. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] evilgiraffe666@ttrpg.network 5 points 3 years ago That it would be shitty was obvious. But exactly how shitty was impossible to nail down, and hence impossible to argue against effectively. Every different Brexiteer had a different idea of the outcome, which changed under any kind of pressure. They hid behind non-statements like "Brexit means Brexit". Why do you think it took so long and so much arguing to get to any kind of agreement afterwards? We knew they were going to trash a load of laws and retain some, but couldn't know which because the Leave camp didn't have a plan or a manifesto. They had a bus, but we know how accurate that was. Or are you arguing that they should be allowed to blatantly lie in political campaigns and we should expect the populace to know in advance which ones are false? People are not that smart. permalink fedilink source parent