‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says::Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

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[–] 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If OpenAI is right (I think they are) one of two things need to happen.

  1. All AI should be open source and non-profit
  2. Copywrite law needs to be abolished

For number 1. Good luck for all the reasons we all know. Capitalism must continue to operate.

For number 1. Good luck because those in power are mostly there off the backs of those before them (see Disney, Apple, Microsoft, etc)

Anyways, fun to watch play out.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    There's a third solution you're overlooking.

    3: OpenAI (or other) wins a judgment that AI content is not inherently a violation of copyright regardless of materials it is trained upon.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's not really about the AI content being a violation or not though is it. It's more about a corporation using copyrighted content without permission to make their product better.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If it's not a violation of copyright then this is a non-issue. You don't need permission to read books.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    AI does not “read books” and it’s completely disingenuous to compare them to humans that way.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's certainly an opinion you have

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Backed by technical facts.

    AIs fundamentally process information differently than humans. That’s not up for debate.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yes this is an argument in my favor, you just don't understand AI/LLMs enough to know why.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I could say the same about you, considering I’ve watched you peddle false information for months about this subject.

    AI learns differently than humans. That isn’t a fact up for debate. That’s one of the few objective truths around this industry.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I work with AI every day at my job. My buddy is a literal AI researcher and we hobby-build together too.

    I'm not concerned with what you think is "objective truth" when you have no idea what you're talking about.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ok and?

    That doesn’t mean it’s any less theft, or that you have any idea what you’re talking about.

    https://www.rws.com/blog/large-language-models-humans/

    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/rjghymycfrMY2aRk5/llm-cognition-is-probably-not-human-like

    There’s also countless papers on google scholar that point out the differences.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There's no open source without copyright, only public domain

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If all is public domain, all is open source

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago

    It’s why AI ultimately will be the death of capitalism, or the dawn of the endless war against the capitalists (literally, and physically).

    AI will ultimately replace most jobs, capitalism can’t work without wage slave, or antique capitalism aka feudalism… so yeah. Gonna need to move towards UBI and more utopian, or just a miserable endless bloody awful war against the capitalists.

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