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[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) Anything views quality control as an expense. Are you even listening to yourself? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (3 children) There is a vocal segment of Lemmy that can ONLY frame the world through the lens of class warfare and nothing else. That's why they hijack every topic and thread with the same rhetoric. They have no plan, guidance or recommendations on what to do. They are only here to inform us about the ills of capitalism as if the collective psyche woke up yesterday and forgot all of history. They are so enlightened and privileged that they can't help themselves in their need to share this valuable knowledge with everyone else. Capitalism bad. That's it. Then they scuttle off to the next thread and start over. That's the extent of "the Revolution". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yes god thank you. I thought I was going crazy, every single thread that's even remotely (very remotely) connected to politics is full of this. I'm seriously worried for the platform, because this shit is going to turn people off hard. Even saw someone suggesting an assassination of a supreme court justice AND PEOPLE WERE FUCKING DEFENDING IT. The mods removed the comment luckily, but I still managed to get like 30 downvotes on a "don't suggest assassinations, be better than them" comment, just check my history. We're becoming fucking Truth Social or Parler or whatever of the left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) I feel like it's too late for Lemmy. The echo chamber is already pretty strong. I hope I'm wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) the flagship instance is lemmy.ml the software is made by tankies. did you think this place was politically neutral? the whole fediverse is a fuck you to the status quo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be honest, I have nothing against socialists. I consider myself a soc Dem. I have many friends that are socialists. My issue is with how shallow and superficial the conversation is. Of your whole world thesis starts and ends with class warfare, there simply isn't much to discuss. There are no prescriptions- just empty rhetoric. At the end of the say it's horseshoe anti-establishment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) >horseshoe you can leave. do you need directions to reddit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why don't you provide counterargument. Or interesting conversation. Anything to instill that it's not just performative art form you guys. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is some sealion shit. horseshoe theory is some middle school history class bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) This comment should be deleted soon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago bu dum tss permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) performance art is a better use of time than shitting on people who challenges the status quo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that you're not actually contributing to the discussion. You're just parroting talking points and actively turning people away from your stance by being annoying. It's not super dissimilar to what the trump cultists do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) calling me annoying doesn't change whether what im saying is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm trying to break through the echo chamber whenever I come across it, but it's a thankless endeavor, and I'm pretty close to giving up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's dozens of us haha. I think more people are tired of the empty rhetoric because it's not getting the same traction it used to. My suspicion is it's like the same three people posting the same comment everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hand in hand with bots, possibly. I really want lemmy to succeed though, only thing driving me forward. Ah well, people haven't used their brains in the past, no reason to expect they will in the future... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) are these bots in the room with you, now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm afraid they are, that's why I wrote that. What's your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) get help permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't. I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option. Pick better battles mate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I mean, I don't advocate political assassinations, but I also recognize that the SC really doesn't have any avenues for the people to remove a judge other than violence. A lot of problems would be solved if the people could call votes of no confidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You can recognize it without suggesting anything, that's completely fine in my book. And yeah agreed, it's stupid that there's no mechanism like that permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Can't judges be impeached? Why are you downvoting? Judges can and have been impeached. The comment above implied this wasnt true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's not a mechanism the people control, especially with rampant gerrymandering by the GOP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is so uncharitable. There's a reason for this mechanism and it's not true. The Senate was a democratic majority just a few years ago so it's not impossible. The issue is we are always holding on by a thin margin to either the house or Senate. I don't think we should be advocating for assassinations on Lemmy or any platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 2 years ago A supreme court justice requires a senate super majority to remove, and it's never been done successfully. Again, I'm not advocating anything, but if a system of government is no longer representing the will of the people, actively working to hurt those people, and the people have no mechanism to peacefully recall a high ranking member of the government, especially a lifetime appointment, the only option left is violence. This is just a statement of fact. Honestly, I think the founding fathers did it intentionally. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just as annoying are the "cars are bad" people who crawl out of the woodwork every time a car is mentioned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago Cars would kill you and everyone you love, if given the chance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, I recommend voting and being active politically and socially, but there's always people who hate discussing politics at all and just want to live in their middle class bubble thats keeps on shrinking. But, sorry that people point out negative things in your vicinity, it must really suck when you're taken out of your self-imposed apolitical safe zone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago What a stupid retort. Are you 12? "Being active politically and socially" whatever the fuck that means. I'm 38 and I moved to the US from eastern Europe. You know nothing about the life or hardship I endured under communist dictatorship. I welcome talking about difficult topics. Let's do that. But let's also not kid ourselves the vast majority of you guys are not interested in having those "difficult conversations" and are only here for the brownie internet points. You want to have the adult conversation? Let's skip the moral grandstanding about capitalism and go straight to actionable items beyond being "politically and socially active". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago I was just reframing the statement based on the previous commenters nitpicking. The point being they consider it an unwelcome expense instead of part of the necessary cost of doing business. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (3 children) There is a vocal segment of Lemmy that can ONLY frame the world through the lens of class warfare and nothing else. That's why they hijack every topic and thread with the same rhetoric. They have no plan, guidance or recommendations on what to do. They are only here to inform us about the ills of capitalism as if the collective psyche woke up yesterday and forgot all of history. They are so enlightened and privileged that they can't help themselves in their need to share this valuable knowledge with everyone else. Capitalism bad. That's it. Then they scuttle off to the next thread and start over. That's the extent of "the Revolution". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yes god thank you. I thought I was going crazy, every single thread that's even remotely (very remotely) connected to politics is full of this. I'm seriously worried for the platform, because this shit is going to turn people off hard. Even saw someone suggesting an assassination of a supreme court justice AND PEOPLE WERE FUCKING DEFENDING IT. The mods removed the comment luckily, but I still managed to get like 30 downvotes on a "don't suggest assassinations, be better than them" comment, just check my history. We're becoming fucking Truth Social or Parler or whatever of the left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) I feel like it's too late for Lemmy. The echo chamber is already pretty strong. I hope I'm wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) the flagship instance is lemmy.ml the software is made by tankies. did you think this place was politically neutral? the whole fediverse is a fuck you to the status quo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be honest, I have nothing against socialists. I consider myself a soc Dem. I have many friends that are socialists. My issue is with how shallow and superficial the conversation is. Of your whole world thesis starts and ends with class warfare, there simply isn't much to discuss. There are no prescriptions- just empty rhetoric. At the end of the say it's horseshoe anti-establishment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) >horseshoe you can leave. do you need directions to reddit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why don't you provide counterargument. Or interesting conversation. Anything to instill that it's not just performative art form you guys. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is some sealion shit. horseshoe theory is some middle school history class bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) This comment should be deleted soon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago bu dum tss permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) performance art is a better use of time than shitting on people who challenges the status quo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that you're not actually contributing to the discussion. You're just parroting talking points and actively turning people away from your stance by being annoying. It's not super dissimilar to what the trump cultists do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) calling me annoying doesn't change whether what im saying is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm trying to break through the echo chamber whenever I come across it, but it's a thankless endeavor, and I'm pretty close to giving up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's dozens of us haha. I think more people are tired of the empty rhetoric because it's not getting the same traction it used to. My suspicion is it's like the same three people posting the same comment everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hand in hand with bots, possibly. I really want lemmy to succeed though, only thing driving me forward. Ah well, people haven't used their brains in the past, no reason to expect they will in the future... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) are these bots in the room with you, now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm afraid they are, that's why I wrote that. What's your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) get help permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't. I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option. Pick better battles mate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I mean, I don't advocate political assassinations, but I also recognize that the SC really doesn't have any avenues for the people to remove a judge other than violence. A lot of problems would be solved if the people could call votes of no confidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You can recognize it without suggesting anything, that's completely fine in my book. And yeah agreed, it's stupid that there's no mechanism like that permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Can't judges be impeached? Why are you downvoting? Judges can and have been impeached. The comment above implied this wasnt true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's not a mechanism the people control, especially with rampant gerrymandering by the GOP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is so uncharitable. There's a reason for this mechanism and it's not true. The Senate was a democratic majority just a few years ago so it's not impossible. The issue is we are always holding on by a thin margin to either the house or Senate. I don't think we should be advocating for assassinations on Lemmy or any platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 2 years ago A supreme court justice requires a senate super majority to remove, and it's never been done successfully. Again, I'm not advocating anything, but if a system of government is no longer representing the will of the people, actively working to hurt those people, and the people have no mechanism to peacefully recall a high ranking member of the government, especially a lifetime appointment, the only option left is violence. This is just a statement of fact. Honestly, I think the founding fathers did it intentionally. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just as annoying are the "cars are bad" people who crawl out of the woodwork every time a car is mentioned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago Cars would kill you and everyone you love, if given the chance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, I recommend voting and being active politically and socially, but there's always people who hate discussing politics at all and just want to live in their middle class bubble thats keeps on shrinking. But, sorry that people point out negative things in your vicinity, it must really suck when you're taken out of your self-imposed apolitical safe zone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago What a stupid retort. Are you 12? "Being active politically and socially" whatever the fuck that means. I'm 38 and I moved to the US from eastern Europe. You know nothing about the life or hardship I endured under communist dictatorship. I welcome talking about difficult topics. Let's do that. But let's also not kid ourselves the vast majority of you guys are not interested in having those "difficult conversations" and are only here for the brownie internet points. You want to have the adult conversation? Let's skip the moral grandstanding about capitalism and go straight to actionable items beyond being "politically and socially active". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yes god thank you. I thought I was going crazy, every single thread that's even remotely (very remotely) connected to politics is full of this. I'm seriously worried for the platform, because this shit is going to turn people off hard. Even saw someone suggesting an assassination of a supreme court justice AND PEOPLE WERE FUCKING DEFENDING IT. The mods removed the comment luckily, but I still managed to get like 30 downvotes on a "don't suggest assassinations, be better than them" comment, just check my history. We're becoming fucking Truth Social or Parler or whatever of the left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) I feel like it's too late for Lemmy. The echo chamber is already pretty strong. I hope I'm wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) the flagship instance is lemmy.ml the software is made by tankies. did you think this place was politically neutral? the whole fediverse is a fuck you to the status quo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be honest, I have nothing against socialists. I consider myself a soc Dem. I have many friends that are socialists. My issue is with how shallow and superficial the conversation is. Of your whole world thesis starts and ends with class warfare, there simply isn't much to discuss. There are no prescriptions- just empty rhetoric. At the end of the say it's horseshoe anti-establishment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) >horseshoe you can leave. do you need directions to reddit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why don't you provide counterargument. Or interesting conversation. Anything to instill that it's not just performative art form you guys. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is some sealion shit. horseshoe theory is some middle school history class bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) This comment should be deleted soon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago bu dum tss permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) performance art is a better use of time than shitting on people who challenges the status quo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that you're not actually contributing to the discussion. You're just parroting talking points and actively turning people away from your stance by being annoying. It's not super dissimilar to what the trump cultists do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) calling me annoying doesn't change whether what im saying is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm trying to break through the echo chamber whenever I come across it, but it's a thankless endeavor, and I'm pretty close to giving up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's dozens of us haha. I think more people are tired of the empty rhetoric because it's not getting the same traction it used to. My suspicion is it's like the same three people posting the same comment everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hand in hand with bots, possibly. I really want lemmy to succeed though, only thing driving me forward. Ah well, people haven't used their brains in the past, no reason to expect they will in the future... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) are these bots in the room with you, now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm afraid they are, that's why I wrote that. What's your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) get help permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't. I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option. Pick better battles mate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I mean, I don't advocate political assassinations, but I also recognize that the SC really doesn't have any avenues for the people to remove a judge other than violence. A lot of problems would be solved if the people could call votes of no confidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You can recognize it without suggesting anything, that's completely fine in my book. And yeah agreed, it's stupid that there's no mechanism like that permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Can't judges be impeached? Why are you downvoting? Judges can and have been impeached. The comment above implied this wasnt true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's not a mechanism the people control, especially with rampant gerrymandering by the GOP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is so uncharitable. There's a reason for this mechanism and it's not true. The Senate was a democratic majority just a few years ago so it's not impossible. The issue is we are always holding on by a thin margin to either the house or Senate. I don't think we should be advocating for assassinations on Lemmy or any platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 2 years ago A supreme court justice requires a senate super majority to remove, and it's never been done successfully. Again, I'm not advocating anything, but if a system of government is no longer representing the will of the people, actively working to hurt those people, and the people have no mechanism to peacefully recall a high ranking member of the government, especially a lifetime appointment, the only option left is violence. This is just a statement of fact. Honestly, I think the founding fathers did it intentionally. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) I feel like it's too late for Lemmy. The echo chamber is already pretty strong. I hope I'm wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) the flagship instance is lemmy.ml the software is made by tankies. did you think this place was politically neutral? the whole fediverse is a fuck you to the status quo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be honest, I have nothing against socialists. I consider myself a soc Dem. I have many friends that are socialists. My issue is with how shallow and superficial the conversation is. Of your whole world thesis starts and ends with class warfare, there simply isn't much to discuss. There are no prescriptions- just empty rhetoric. At the end of the say it's horseshoe anti-establishment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) >horseshoe you can leave. do you need directions to reddit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why don't you provide counterargument. Or interesting conversation. Anything to instill that it's not just performative art form you guys. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is some sealion shit. horseshoe theory is some middle school history class bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) This comment should be deleted soon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago bu dum tss permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) performance art is a better use of time than shitting on people who challenges the status quo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that you're not actually contributing to the discussion. You're just parroting talking points and actively turning people away from your stance by being annoying. It's not super dissimilar to what the trump cultists do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) calling me annoying doesn't change whether what im saying is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm trying to break through the echo chamber whenever I come across it, but it's a thankless endeavor, and I'm pretty close to giving up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's dozens of us haha. I think more people are tired of the empty rhetoric because it's not getting the same traction it used to. My suspicion is it's like the same three people posting the same comment everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hand in hand with bots, possibly. I really want lemmy to succeed though, only thing driving me forward. Ah well, people haven't used their brains in the past, no reason to expect they will in the future... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) are these bots in the room with you, now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm afraid they are, that's why I wrote that. What's your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) get help permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't. I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option. Pick better battles mate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) the flagship instance is lemmy.ml the software is made by tankies. did you think this place was politically neutral? the whole fediverse is a fuck you to the status quo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be honest, I have nothing against socialists. I consider myself a soc Dem. I have many friends that are socialists. My issue is with how shallow and superficial the conversation is. Of your whole world thesis starts and ends with class warfare, there simply isn't much to discuss. There are no prescriptions- just empty rhetoric. At the end of the say it's horseshoe anti-establishment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) >horseshoe you can leave. do you need directions to reddit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why don't you provide counterargument. Or interesting conversation. Anything to instill that it's not just performative art form you guys. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is some sealion shit. horseshoe theory is some middle school history class bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) This comment should be deleted soon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago bu dum tss permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) performance art is a better use of time than shitting on people who challenges the status quo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that you're not actually contributing to the discussion. You're just parroting talking points and actively turning people away from your stance by being annoying. It's not super dissimilar to what the trump cultists do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) calling me annoying doesn't change whether what im saying is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be honest, I have nothing against socialists. I consider myself a soc Dem. I have many friends that are socialists. My issue is with how shallow and superficial the conversation is. Of your whole world thesis starts and ends with class warfare, there simply isn't much to discuss. There are no prescriptions- just empty rhetoric. At the end of the say it's horseshoe anti-establishment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) >horseshoe you can leave. do you need directions to reddit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why don't you provide counterargument. Or interesting conversation. Anything to instill that it's not just performative art form you guys. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is some sealion shit. horseshoe theory is some middle school history class bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) This comment should be deleted soon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago bu dum tss permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) performance art is a better use of time than shitting on people who challenges the status quo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that you're not actually contributing to the discussion. You're just parroting talking points and actively turning people away from your stance by being annoying. It's not super dissimilar to what the trump cultists do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) calling me annoying doesn't change whether what im saying is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) >horseshoe you can leave. do you need directions to reddit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why don't you provide counterargument. Or interesting conversation. Anything to instill that it's not just performative art form you guys. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is some sealion shit. horseshoe theory is some middle school history class bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) This comment should be deleted soon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago bu dum tss permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) performance art is a better use of time than shitting on people who challenges the status quo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that you're not actually contributing to the discussion. You're just parroting talking points and actively turning people away from your stance by being annoying. It's not super dissimilar to what the trump cultists do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) calling me annoying doesn't change whether what im saying is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why don't you provide counterargument. Or interesting conversation. Anything to instill that it's not just performative art form you guys. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is some sealion shit. horseshoe theory is some middle school history class bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) This comment should be deleted soon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago bu dum tss permalink fedilink source parent [+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) performance art is a better use of time than shitting on people who challenges the status quo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that you're not actually contributing to the discussion. You're just parroting talking points and actively turning people away from your stance by being annoying. It's not super dissimilar to what the trump cultists do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) calling me annoying doesn't change whether what im saying is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is some sealion shit. horseshoe theory is some middle school history class bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) This comment should be deleted soon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago bu dum tss permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) This comment should be deleted soon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago bu dum tss permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) performance art is a better use of time than shitting on people who challenges the status quo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that you're not actually contributing to the discussion. You're just parroting talking points and actively turning people away from your stance by being annoying. It's not super dissimilar to what the trump cultists do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) calling me annoying doesn't change whether what im saying is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that you're not actually contributing to the discussion. You're just parroting talking points and actively turning people away from your stance by being annoying. It's not super dissimilar to what the trump cultists do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) calling me annoying doesn't change whether what im saying is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) calling me annoying doesn't change whether what im saying is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is arguing that you're wrong. You can be right and still annoying about it. You're not opening anyone's minds on this. You're just being one of the echos in the chamber and turning away people who support your cause. It's the same as being one of those annoying vegans. Like, no shit factory farming is bad, but the average person isn't really in any position to make those changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) >the average person isn’t really in any position to make those changes. yet I'm told voting blue will make all the difference in there world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting blue these days is just voting for kinda democracy over fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) democrats are fascists, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Lol, ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, both sides are the same, of course. BOTH SIDES permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 2 years ago this is not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) this is an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you actually think both sides are equally bad, then you're not worth rebutting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago they can both be bad without being equal permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you aren't engaging with intellectual honesty, you might want to try facebook or twitter or reddit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago You aren't worth engaging with intellectual honesty. Anyone delusional enough to even insinuate that both parties are the same doesn't have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't have any interest in expending the energy to fail to break that delusion. There isn't a discussion to be had, because you're objectively wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm trying to break through the echo chamber whenever I come across it, but it's a thankless endeavor, and I'm pretty close to giving up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's dozens of us haha. I think more people are tired of the empty rhetoric because it's not getting the same traction it used to. My suspicion is it's like the same three people posting the same comment everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hand in hand with bots, possibly. I really want lemmy to succeed though, only thing driving me forward. Ah well, people haven't used their brains in the past, no reason to expect they will in the future... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) are these bots in the room with you, now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm afraid they are, that's why I wrote that. What's your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) get help permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't. I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option. Pick better battles mate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's dozens of us haha. I think more people are tired of the empty rhetoric because it's not getting the same traction it used to. My suspicion is it's like the same three people posting the same comment everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hand in hand with bots, possibly. I really want lemmy to succeed though, only thing driving me forward. Ah well, people haven't used their brains in the past, no reason to expect they will in the future... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) are these bots in the room with you, now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm afraid they are, that's why I wrote that. What's your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) get help permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't. I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option. Pick better battles mate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hand in hand with bots, possibly. I really want lemmy to succeed though, only thing driving me forward. Ah well, people haven't used their brains in the past, no reason to expect they will in the future... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) are these bots in the room with you, now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm afraid they are, that's why I wrote that. What's your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) get help permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't. I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option. Pick better battles mate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) are these bots in the room with you, now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm afraid they are, that's why I wrote that. What's your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) get help permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't. I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option. Pick better battles mate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm afraid they are, that's why I wrote that. What's your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) get help permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't. I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option. Pick better battles mate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) get help permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't. I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option. Pick better battles mate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn't. I'm also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it's a very real option. Pick better battles mate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I mean, I don't advocate political assassinations, but I also recognize that the SC really doesn't have any avenues for the people to remove a judge other than violence. A lot of problems would be solved if the people could call votes of no confidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You can recognize it without suggesting anything, that's completely fine in my book. And yeah agreed, it's stupid that there's no mechanism like that permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Can't judges be impeached? Why are you downvoting? Judges can and have been impeached. The comment above implied this wasnt true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's not a mechanism the people control, especially with rampant gerrymandering by the GOP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is so uncharitable. There's a reason for this mechanism and it's not true. The Senate was a democratic majority just a few years ago so it's not impossible. The issue is we are always holding on by a thin margin to either the house or Senate. I don't think we should be advocating for assassinations on Lemmy or any platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 2 years ago A supreme court justice requires a senate super majority to remove, and it's never been done successfully. Again, I'm not advocating anything, but if a system of government is no longer representing the will of the people, actively working to hurt those people, and the people have no mechanism to peacefully recall a high ranking member of the government, especially a lifetime appointment, the only option left is violence. This is just a statement of fact. Honestly, I think the founding fathers did it intentionally. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You can recognize it without suggesting anything, that's completely fine in my book. And yeah agreed, it's stupid that there's no mechanism like that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Can't judges be impeached? Why are you downvoting? Judges can and have been impeached. The comment above implied this wasnt true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's not a mechanism the people control, especially with rampant gerrymandering by the GOP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is so uncharitable. There's a reason for this mechanism and it's not true. The Senate was a democratic majority just a few years ago so it's not impossible. The issue is we are always holding on by a thin margin to either the house or Senate. I don't think we should be advocating for assassinations on Lemmy or any platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 2 years ago A supreme court justice requires a senate super majority to remove, and it's never been done successfully. Again, I'm not advocating anything, but if a system of government is no longer representing the will of the people, actively working to hurt those people, and the people have no mechanism to peacefully recall a high ranking member of the government, especially a lifetime appointment, the only option left is violence. This is just a statement of fact. Honestly, I think the founding fathers did it intentionally. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's not a mechanism the people control, especially with rampant gerrymandering by the GOP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is so uncharitable. There's a reason for this mechanism and it's not true. The Senate was a democratic majority just a few years ago so it's not impossible. The issue is we are always holding on by a thin margin to either the house or Senate. I don't think we should be advocating for assassinations on Lemmy or any platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 2 years ago A supreme court justice requires a senate super majority to remove, and it's never been done successfully. Again, I'm not advocating anything, but if a system of government is no longer representing the will of the people, actively working to hurt those people, and the people have no mechanism to peacefully recall a high ranking member of the government, especially a lifetime appointment, the only option left is violence. This is just a statement of fact. Honestly, I think the founding fathers did it intentionally. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is so uncharitable. There's a reason for this mechanism and it's not true. The Senate was a democratic majority just a few years ago so it's not impossible. The issue is we are always holding on by a thin margin to either the house or Senate. I don't think we should be advocating for assassinations on Lemmy or any platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 2 years ago A supreme court justice requires a senate super majority to remove, and it's never been done successfully. Again, I'm not advocating anything, but if a system of government is no longer representing the will of the people, actively working to hurt those people, and the people have no mechanism to peacefully recall a high ranking member of the government, especially a lifetime appointment, the only option left is violence. This is just a statement of fact. Honestly, I think the founding fathers did it intentionally. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 2 years ago A supreme court justice requires a senate super majority to remove, and it's never been done successfully. Again, I'm not advocating anything, but if a system of government is no longer representing the will of the people, actively working to hurt those people, and the people have no mechanism to peacefully recall a high ranking member of the government, especially a lifetime appointment, the only option left is violence. This is just a statement of fact. Honestly, I think the founding fathers did it intentionally. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just as annoying are the "cars are bad" people who crawl out of the woodwork every time a car is mentioned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago Cars would kill you and everyone you love, if given the chance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago Cars would kill you and everyone you love, if given the chance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorque@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, I recommend voting and being active politically and socially, but there's always people who hate discussing politics at all and just want to live in their middle class bubble thats keeps on shrinking. But, sorry that people point out negative things in your vicinity, it must really suck when you're taken out of your self-imposed apolitical safe zone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago What a stupid retort. Are you 12? "Being active politically and socially" whatever the fuck that means. I'm 38 and I moved to the US from eastern Europe. You know nothing about the life or hardship I endured under communist dictatorship. I welcome talking about difficult topics. Let's do that. But let's also not kid ourselves the vast majority of you guys are not interested in having those "difficult conversations" and are only here for the brownie internet points. You want to have the adult conversation? Let's skip the moral grandstanding about capitalism and go straight to actionable items beyond being "politically and socially active". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago What a stupid retort. Are you 12? "Being active politically and socially" whatever the fuck that means. I'm 38 and I moved to the US from eastern Europe. You know nothing about the life or hardship I endured under communist dictatorship. I welcome talking about difficult topics. Let's do that. But let's also not kid ourselves the vast majority of you guys are not interested in having those "difficult conversations" and are only here for the brownie internet points. You want to have the adult conversation? Let's skip the moral grandstanding about capitalism and go straight to actionable items beyond being "politically and socially active". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorque@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago I was just reframing the statement based on the previous commenters nitpicking. The point being they consider it an unwelcome expense instead of part of the necessary cost of doing business. permalink fedilink source parent