▲ 393 ▼ Dave Chappelle fills Netflix special with jokes about trans and disabled people (www.independent.co.uk) submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 514 comments fedilink hide all child comments Dave Chappelle has released a new Netflix special, The Dreamer, which is full of jokes about the trans community and disabled people. “I love punching down!” he tells the audience, in a one-hour show that landed on the streaming service today (31 December). It’s his seventh special for Netflix and comes two years after his last one, the highly controversial release The Closer. That programme was criticised for its relentless jokes about the trans community, and Chappelle revisits the topic in his new show. He tells jokes about trans women in prison, and about trans people “pretending” to be somebody they are not.
[+] deagle2008@lemmy.world -49 points 2 years ago (4 children) Netflix can count on me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yes, you've already made your pro-bigotry stance known above. I'm just not sure why you think it's something to be proud of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have a day off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) What? EDIT: While you're all downvoting me, could one of you take the time to please tell me what the person I responded to meant by "have a day off?" I honestly don't know what that is supposed to mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -15 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you find Rosanne's latest comedy special to be a gut-buster or were you a wet blanket who didn't watch it and laugh at her hilarious jokes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, her "jokes" are legitimately not funny. She does not play to diverse audiences. She curates her audience or does not have a live audience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I see, so "go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket" only applies to funny jokes. So not unfunny jokes like: "My pronouns are, kiss my ass." from Roseanne's special... But funny jokes like: "I wrote a play. I did. Cause I know that gays love plays. It's a very sad play, but it's moving. It's about a Black transgender woman whose pronoun is, sadly, n*****." from Chapelle's special. permalink fedilink source parent [+] deagle2008@lemmy.world -19 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm proud because I'm going to watch it twice. The first time with my trans friend. Both her and I find the topic of trans rights and freedom to exist very serious but we also know when to turn it off and enjoy a comedy show. I'll probably watch it again with my wheelchair bound nephew simply because he finds it's funny. If someone were to "punch down" on any of those ppl I have and will continue to to fight for them. It's funny that you, I, and others in the thread are on the same side of the larger issue only outside of the context of comedy. There's no bigotry here. I know how to take a joke and some of the "targets" of his joke know how to take one as well. The real victims here are the persons who cannot take a joke. Dave will continue to attack you guys indiscriminately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) The first time with my trans friend. Both her and I find the topic of trans rights and freedom to exist very serious but we also know when to turn it off and enjoy a comedy show. I’ll probably watch it again with my wheelchair bound nephew simply because he finds it’s funny. Uh-huh. And your mother is a Navajo and your best friend is both Jewish and Tibetan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] deagle2008@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Algonquin actually. Grew up up with some sassy Jews though. No Tibetan afaik but what's your point? We still on the same side, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This is all very believable indeed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just not disabled and trans people, apparently. Good job, you. You're so supportive of people whose lives are hard enough without some cunt obsessing over them so he can "punch down" at them. Have a fucking cookie 🍪 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -21 points 2 years ago (2 children) He does a few jokes. You do the obsessing . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is this you? You seem to be singing a different tune there... Of course in that case, it was someone mocking white people... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -32 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Wells that’s a bit creepy of you…. But I think most people can tell the difference between being attacked (in this case, supporting the murder of gays) and being the subject of a joke ? Maybe not, maybe that’s the problem, right ? You’re attempting to compare a comedian telling jokes, to an elected official advocating murder. That’s always going to be a difficult thing to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago I know. Having a memory of something that happened a few days ago and an ability to use a search function sure is creepy. Also, the 'being attacked' you are talking about is someone saying, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." Which... I don't know... seems a whole lot less offensive than using multiple Netflix specials to repeatedly demean trans people. But you're right, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." That's just beyond the pale. What a vicious, heard-hearted, racist attack! permalink fedilink source parent [–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago He’s not telling jokes. He’s repeatedly making statements that trans women aren’t real women. The very same statements that are being legislated around the country denying trans people the right to use bathrooms, participate in sports, receive necessary healthcare, have parental rights, etc. it would be like a white comic in the 40s “joking” about black people using their own bathrooms or water fountains. permalink fedilink source parent [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Given this is this comedian's 2nd (or 3rd?) netflix special in a row where he goes after trans people, I'm not sure who's actually got the obsession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (2 children) "Goes after." That's a stretch. He's telling jokes, not inciting an angry mob. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was just 'exaggerating for comedic affect.' y'know - like Dave Chappelle does? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just gotta claim you're being canceled now, and Netflix will give you a special, I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Netflix Exec 1: "We need a new way of getting subscribers" Netflix Exec 2: "How about this - we wait for a comedian to say something really awful, then, when ordinary people are appalled by what they said, we get the comedian to start shrieking about being cancelled...." NE1: "We're cancelling them?" NE2: "That's the thing - nobody is! But as we all know, these comedians core audience are people who have a Pavlovian response to the word 'cancel' and they're somehow even less able than they already were to think coherently....so we wait, for the 'controversy (lol)' to really ramp up, then give the comedian a 2 hour special. It'll only cost us a few million but the new subscriber numbers amongst the gammon population will far exceed that figure!" NE1: "Brilliant! But wait...aren't we going to look like shitty people?" NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" Cue greenlighting Disclosure 2, where even more exasperated trans people have to explain the damage the media is still causing trans people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* The angry mobs are already incited, he's just giving them good rhetoric permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago Don't forget to check out the latest season of Queer Eye too girl permalink fedilink source parent [+] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works -15 points 2 years ago Y'all are actual children. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yes, you've already made your pro-bigotry stance known above. I'm just not sure why you think it's something to be proud of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have a day off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) What? EDIT: While you're all downvoting me, could one of you take the time to please tell me what the person I responded to meant by "have a day off?" I honestly don't know what that is supposed to mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -15 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you find Rosanne's latest comedy special to be a gut-buster or were you a wet blanket who didn't watch it and laugh at her hilarious jokes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, her "jokes" are legitimately not funny. She does not play to diverse audiences. She curates her audience or does not have a live audience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I see, so "go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket" only applies to funny jokes. So not unfunny jokes like: "My pronouns are, kiss my ass." from Roseanne's special... But funny jokes like: "I wrote a play. I did. Cause I know that gays love plays. It's a very sad play, but it's moving. It's about a Black transgender woman whose pronoun is, sadly, n*****." from Chapelle's special. permalink fedilink source parent [+] deagle2008@lemmy.world -19 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm proud because I'm going to watch it twice. The first time with my trans friend. Both her and I find the topic of trans rights and freedom to exist very serious but we also know when to turn it off and enjoy a comedy show. I'll probably watch it again with my wheelchair bound nephew simply because he finds it's funny. If someone were to "punch down" on any of those ppl I have and will continue to to fight for them. It's funny that you, I, and others in the thread are on the same side of the larger issue only outside of the context of comedy. There's no bigotry here. I know how to take a joke and some of the "targets" of his joke know how to take one as well. The real victims here are the persons who cannot take a joke. Dave will continue to attack you guys indiscriminately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) The first time with my trans friend. Both her and I find the topic of trans rights and freedom to exist very serious but we also know when to turn it off and enjoy a comedy show. I’ll probably watch it again with my wheelchair bound nephew simply because he finds it’s funny. Uh-huh. And your mother is a Navajo and your best friend is both Jewish and Tibetan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] deagle2008@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Algonquin actually. Grew up up with some sassy Jews though. No Tibetan afaik but what's your point? We still on the same side, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This is all very believable indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have a day off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) What? EDIT: While you're all downvoting me, could one of you take the time to please tell me what the person I responded to meant by "have a day off?" I honestly don't know what that is supposed to mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -15 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you find Rosanne's latest comedy special to be a gut-buster or were you a wet blanket who didn't watch it and laugh at her hilarious jokes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, her "jokes" are legitimately not funny. She does not play to diverse audiences. She curates her audience or does not have a live audience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I see, so "go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket" only applies to funny jokes. So not unfunny jokes like: "My pronouns are, kiss my ass." from Roseanne's special... But funny jokes like: "I wrote a play. I did. Cause I know that gays love plays. It's a very sad play, but it's moving. It's about a Black transgender woman whose pronoun is, sadly, n*****." from Chapelle's special. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) What? EDIT: While you're all downvoting me, could one of you take the time to please tell me what the person I responded to meant by "have a day off?" I honestly don't know what that is supposed to mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -15 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you find Rosanne's latest comedy special to be a gut-buster or were you a wet blanket who didn't watch it and laugh at her hilarious jokes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, her "jokes" are legitimately not funny. She does not play to diverse audiences. She curates her audience or does not have a live audience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I see, so "go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket" only applies to funny jokes. So not unfunny jokes like: "My pronouns are, kiss my ass." from Roseanne's special... But funny jokes like: "I wrote a play. I did. Cause I know that gays love plays. It's a very sad play, but it's moving. It's about a Black transgender woman whose pronoun is, sadly, n*****." from Chapelle's special. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JustZ@lemmy.world -15 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you find Rosanne's latest comedy special to be a gut-buster or were you a wet blanket who didn't watch it and laugh at her hilarious jokes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, her "jokes" are legitimately not funny. She does not play to diverse audiences. She curates her audience or does not have a live audience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I see, so "go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket" only applies to funny jokes. So not unfunny jokes like: "My pronouns are, kiss my ass." from Roseanne's special... But funny jokes like: "I wrote a play. I did. Cause I know that gays love plays. It's a very sad play, but it's moving. It's about a Black transgender woman whose pronoun is, sadly, n*****." from Chapelle's special. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did you find Rosanne's latest comedy special to be a gut-buster or were you a wet blanket who didn't watch it and laugh at her hilarious jokes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, her "jokes" are legitimately not funny. She does not play to diverse audiences. She curates her audience or does not have a live audience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I see, so "go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket" only applies to funny jokes. So not unfunny jokes like: "My pronouns are, kiss my ass." from Roseanne's special... But funny jokes like: "I wrote a play. I did. Cause I know that gays love plays. It's a very sad play, but it's moving. It's about a Black transgender woman whose pronoun is, sadly, n*****." from Chapelle's special. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JustZ@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, her "jokes" are legitimately not funny. She does not play to diverse audiences. She curates her audience or does not have a live audience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I see, so "go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket" only applies to funny jokes. So not unfunny jokes like: "My pronouns are, kiss my ass." from Roseanne's special... But funny jokes like: "I wrote a play. I did. Cause I know that gays love plays. It's a very sad play, but it's moving. It's about a Black transgender woman whose pronoun is, sadly, n*****." from Chapelle's special. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I see, so "go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket" only applies to funny jokes. So not unfunny jokes like: "My pronouns are, kiss my ass." from Roseanne's special... But funny jokes like: "I wrote a play. I did. Cause I know that gays love plays. It's a very sad play, but it's moving. It's about a Black transgender woman whose pronoun is, sadly, n*****." from Chapelle's special. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] deagle2008@lemmy.world -19 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm proud because I'm going to watch it twice. The first time with my trans friend. Both her and I find the topic of trans rights and freedom to exist very serious but we also know when to turn it off and enjoy a comedy show. I'll probably watch it again with my wheelchair bound nephew simply because he finds it's funny. If someone were to "punch down" on any of those ppl I have and will continue to to fight for them. It's funny that you, I, and others in the thread are on the same side of the larger issue only outside of the context of comedy. There's no bigotry here. I know how to take a joke and some of the "targets" of his joke know how to take one as well. The real victims here are the persons who cannot take a joke. Dave will continue to attack you guys indiscriminately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) The first time with my trans friend. Both her and I find the topic of trans rights and freedom to exist very serious but we also know when to turn it off and enjoy a comedy show. I’ll probably watch it again with my wheelchair bound nephew simply because he finds it’s funny. Uh-huh. And your mother is a Navajo and your best friend is both Jewish and Tibetan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] deagle2008@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Algonquin actually. Grew up up with some sassy Jews though. No Tibetan afaik but what's your point? We still on the same side, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This is all very believable indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) The first time with my trans friend. Both her and I find the topic of trans rights and freedom to exist very serious but we also know when to turn it off and enjoy a comedy show. I’ll probably watch it again with my wheelchair bound nephew simply because he finds it’s funny. Uh-huh. And your mother is a Navajo and your best friend is both Jewish and Tibetan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] deagle2008@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Algonquin actually. Grew up up with some sassy Jews though. No Tibetan afaik but what's your point? We still on the same side, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This is all very believable indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deagle2008@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Algonquin actually. Grew up up with some sassy Jews though. No Tibetan afaik but what's your point? We still on the same side, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This is all very believable indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This is all very believable indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just not disabled and trans people, apparently. Good job, you. You're so supportive of people whose lives are hard enough without some cunt obsessing over them so he can "punch down" at them. Have a fucking cookie 🍪 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -21 points 2 years ago (2 children) He does a few jokes. You do the obsessing . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is this you? You seem to be singing a different tune there... Of course in that case, it was someone mocking white people... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -32 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Wells that’s a bit creepy of you…. But I think most people can tell the difference between being attacked (in this case, supporting the murder of gays) and being the subject of a joke ? Maybe not, maybe that’s the problem, right ? You’re attempting to compare a comedian telling jokes, to an elected official advocating murder. That’s always going to be a difficult thing to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago I know. Having a memory of something that happened a few days ago and an ability to use a search function sure is creepy. Also, the 'being attacked' you are talking about is someone saying, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." Which... I don't know... seems a whole lot less offensive than using multiple Netflix specials to repeatedly demean trans people. But you're right, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." That's just beyond the pale. What a vicious, heard-hearted, racist attack! permalink fedilink source parent [–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago He’s not telling jokes. He’s repeatedly making statements that trans women aren’t real women. The very same statements that are being legislated around the country denying trans people the right to use bathrooms, participate in sports, receive necessary healthcare, have parental rights, etc. it would be like a white comic in the 40s “joking” about black people using their own bathrooms or water fountains. permalink fedilink source parent [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Given this is this comedian's 2nd (or 3rd?) netflix special in a row where he goes after trans people, I'm not sure who's actually got the obsession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (2 children) "Goes after." That's a stretch. He's telling jokes, not inciting an angry mob. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was just 'exaggerating for comedic affect.' y'know - like Dave Chappelle does? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just gotta claim you're being canceled now, and Netflix will give you a special, I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Netflix Exec 1: "We need a new way of getting subscribers" Netflix Exec 2: "How about this - we wait for a comedian to say something really awful, then, when ordinary people are appalled by what they said, we get the comedian to start shrieking about being cancelled...." NE1: "We're cancelling them?" NE2: "That's the thing - nobody is! But as we all know, these comedians core audience are people who have a Pavlovian response to the word 'cancel' and they're somehow even less able than they already were to think coherently....so we wait, for the 'controversy (lol)' to really ramp up, then give the comedian a 2 hour special. It'll only cost us a few million but the new subscriber numbers amongst the gammon population will far exceed that figure!" NE1: "Brilliant! But wait...aren't we going to look like shitty people?" NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" Cue greenlighting Disclosure 2, where even more exasperated trans people have to explain the damage the media is still causing trans people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* The angry mobs are already incited, he's just giving them good rhetoric permalink fedilink source parent
[+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -21 points 2 years ago (2 children) He does a few jokes. You do the obsessing . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is this you? You seem to be singing a different tune there... Of course in that case, it was someone mocking white people... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -32 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Wells that’s a bit creepy of you…. But I think most people can tell the difference between being attacked (in this case, supporting the murder of gays) and being the subject of a joke ? Maybe not, maybe that’s the problem, right ? You’re attempting to compare a comedian telling jokes, to an elected official advocating murder. That’s always going to be a difficult thing to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago I know. Having a memory of something that happened a few days ago and an ability to use a search function sure is creepy. Also, the 'being attacked' you are talking about is someone saying, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." Which... I don't know... seems a whole lot less offensive than using multiple Netflix specials to repeatedly demean trans people. But you're right, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." That's just beyond the pale. What a vicious, heard-hearted, racist attack! permalink fedilink source parent [–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago He’s not telling jokes. He’s repeatedly making statements that trans women aren’t real women. The very same statements that are being legislated around the country denying trans people the right to use bathrooms, participate in sports, receive necessary healthcare, have parental rights, etc. it would be like a white comic in the 40s “joking” about black people using their own bathrooms or water fountains. permalink fedilink source parent [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Given this is this comedian's 2nd (or 3rd?) netflix special in a row where he goes after trans people, I'm not sure who's actually got the obsession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (2 children) "Goes after." That's a stretch. He's telling jokes, not inciting an angry mob. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was just 'exaggerating for comedic affect.' y'know - like Dave Chappelle does? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just gotta claim you're being canceled now, and Netflix will give you a special, I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Netflix Exec 1: "We need a new way of getting subscribers" Netflix Exec 2: "How about this - we wait for a comedian to say something really awful, then, when ordinary people are appalled by what they said, we get the comedian to start shrieking about being cancelled...." NE1: "We're cancelling them?" NE2: "That's the thing - nobody is! But as we all know, these comedians core audience are people who have a Pavlovian response to the word 'cancel' and they're somehow even less able than they already were to think coherently....so we wait, for the 'controversy (lol)' to really ramp up, then give the comedian a 2 hour special. It'll only cost us a few million but the new subscriber numbers amongst the gammon population will far exceed that figure!" NE1: "Brilliant! But wait...aren't we going to look like shitty people?" NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" Cue greenlighting Disclosure 2, where even more exasperated trans people have to explain the damage the media is still causing trans people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* The angry mobs are already incited, he's just giving them good rhetoric permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is this you? You seem to be singing a different tune there... Of course in that case, it was someone mocking white people... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -32 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Wells that’s a bit creepy of you…. But I think most people can tell the difference between being attacked (in this case, supporting the murder of gays) and being the subject of a joke ? Maybe not, maybe that’s the problem, right ? You’re attempting to compare a comedian telling jokes, to an elected official advocating murder. That’s always going to be a difficult thing to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago I know. Having a memory of something that happened a few days ago and an ability to use a search function sure is creepy. Also, the 'being attacked' you are talking about is someone saying, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." Which... I don't know... seems a whole lot less offensive than using multiple Netflix specials to repeatedly demean trans people. But you're right, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." That's just beyond the pale. What a vicious, heard-hearted, racist attack! permalink fedilink source parent [–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago He’s not telling jokes. He’s repeatedly making statements that trans women aren’t real women. The very same statements that are being legislated around the country denying trans people the right to use bathrooms, participate in sports, receive necessary healthcare, have parental rights, etc. it would be like a white comic in the 40s “joking” about black people using their own bathrooms or water fountains. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -32 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Wells that’s a bit creepy of you…. But I think most people can tell the difference between being attacked (in this case, supporting the murder of gays) and being the subject of a joke ? Maybe not, maybe that’s the problem, right ? You’re attempting to compare a comedian telling jokes, to an elected official advocating murder. That’s always going to be a difficult thing to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago I know. Having a memory of something that happened a few days ago and an ability to use a search function sure is creepy. Also, the 'being attacked' you are talking about is someone saying, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." Which... I don't know... seems a whole lot less offensive than using multiple Netflix specials to repeatedly demean trans people. But you're right, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." That's just beyond the pale. What a vicious, heard-hearted, racist attack! permalink fedilink source parent [–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago He’s not telling jokes. He’s repeatedly making statements that trans women aren’t real women. The very same statements that are being legislated around the country denying trans people the right to use bathrooms, participate in sports, receive necessary healthcare, have parental rights, etc. it would be like a white comic in the 40s “joking” about black people using their own bathrooms or water fountains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago I know. Having a memory of something that happened a few days ago and an ability to use a search function sure is creepy. Also, the 'being attacked' you are talking about is someone saying, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." Which... I don't know... seems a whole lot less offensive than using multiple Netflix specials to repeatedly demean trans people. But you're right, "Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked." That's just beyond the pale. What a vicious, heard-hearted, racist attack! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago He’s not telling jokes. He’s repeatedly making statements that trans women aren’t real women. The very same statements that are being legislated around the country denying trans people the right to use bathrooms, participate in sports, receive necessary healthcare, have parental rights, etc. it would be like a white comic in the 40s “joking” about black people using their own bathrooms or water fountains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Given this is this comedian's 2nd (or 3rd?) netflix special in a row where he goes after trans people, I'm not sure who's actually got the obsession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JustZ@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (2 children) "Goes after." That's a stretch. He's telling jokes, not inciting an angry mob. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was just 'exaggerating for comedic affect.' y'know - like Dave Chappelle does? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just gotta claim you're being canceled now, and Netflix will give you a special, I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Netflix Exec 1: "We need a new way of getting subscribers" Netflix Exec 2: "How about this - we wait for a comedian to say something really awful, then, when ordinary people are appalled by what they said, we get the comedian to start shrieking about being cancelled...." NE1: "We're cancelling them?" NE2: "That's the thing - nobody is! But as we all know, these comedians core audience are people who have a Pavlovian response to the word 'cancel' and they're somehow even less able than they already were to think coherently....so we wait, for the 'controversy (lol)' to really ramp up, then give the comedian a 2 hour special. It'll only cost us a few million but the new subscriber numbers amongst the gammon population will far exceed that figure!" NE1: "Brilliant! But wait...aren't we going to look like shitty people?" NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" Cue greenlighting Disclosure 2, where even more exasperated trans people have to explain the damage the media is still causing trans people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* The angry mobs are already incited, he's just giving them good rhetoric permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JustZ@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (2 children) "Goes after." That's a stretch. He's telling jokes, not inciting an angry mob. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was just 'exaggerating for comedic affect.' y'know - like Dave Chappelle does? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just gotta claim you're being canceled now, and Netflix will give you a special, I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Netflix Exec 1: "We need a new way of getting subscribers" Netflix Exec 2: "How about this - we wait for a comedian to say something really awful, then, when ordinary people are appalled by what they said, we get the comedian to start shrieking about being cancelled...." NE1: "We're cancelling them?" NE2: "That's the thing - nobody is! But as we all know, these comedians core audience are people who have a Pavlovian response to the word 'cancel' and they're somehow even less able than they already were to think coherently....so we wait, for the 'controversy (lol)' to really ramp up, then give the comedian a 2 hour special. It'll only cost us a few million but the new subscriber numbers amongst the gammon population will far exceed that figure!" NE1: "Brilliant! But wait...aren't we going to look like shitty people?" NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" Cue greenlighting Disclosure 2, where even more exasperated trans people have to explain the damage the media is still causing trans people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* The angry mobs are already incited, he's just giving them good rhetoric permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was just 'exaggerating for comedic affect.' y'know - like Dave Chappelle does? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just gotta claim you're being canceled now, and Netflix will give you a special, I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Netflix Exec 1: "We need a new way of getting subscribers" Netflix Exec 2: "How about this - we wait for a comedian to say something really awful, then, when ordinary people are appalled by what they said, we get the comedian to start shrieking about being cancelled...." NE1: "We're cancelling them?" NE2: "That's the thing - nobody is! But as we all know, these comedians core audience are people who have a Pavlovian response to the word 'cancel' and they're somehow even less able than they already were to think coherently....so we wait, for the 'controversy (lol)' to really ramp up, then give the comedian a 2 hour special. It'll only cost us a few million but the new subscriber numbers amongst the gammon population will far exceed that figure!" NE1: "Brilliant! But wait...aren't we going to look like shitty people?" NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" Cue greenlighting Disclosure 2, where even more exasperated trans people have to explain the damage the media is still causing trans people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just gotta claim you're being canceled now, and Netflix will give you a special, I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Netflix Exec 1: "We need a new way of getting subscribers" Netflix Exec 2: "How about this - we wait for a comedian to say something really awful, then, when ordinary people are appalled by what they said, we get the comedian to start shrieking about being cancelled...." NE1: "We're cancelling them?" NE2: "That's the thing - nobody is! But as we all know, these comedians core audience are people who have a Pavlovian response to the word 'cancel' and they're somehow even less able than they already were to think coherently....so we wait, for the 'controversy (lol)' to really ramp up, then give the comedian a 2 hour special. It'll only cost us a few million but the new subscriber numbers amongst the gammon population will far exceed that figure!" NE1: "Brilliant! But wait...aren't we going to look like shitty people?" NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" Cue greenlighting Disclosure 2, where even more exasperated trans people have to explain the damage the media is still causing trans people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Netflix Exec 1: "We need a new way of getting subscribers" Netflix Exec 2: "How about this - we wait for a comedian to say something really awful, then, when ordinary people are appalled by what they said, we get the comedian to start shrieking about being cancelled...." NE1: "We're cancelling them?" NE2: "That's the thing - nobody is! But as we all know, these comedians core audience are people who have a Pavlovian response to the word 'cancel' and they're somehow even less able than they already were to think coherently....so we wait, for the 'controversy (lol)' to really ramp up, then give the comedian a 2 hour special. It'll only cost us a few million but the new subscriber numbers amongst the gammon population will far exceed that figure!" NE1: "Brilliant! But wait...aren't we going to look like shitty people?" NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" Cue greenlighting Disclosure 2, where even more exasperated trans people have to explain the damage the media is still causing trans people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago NE2: "Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!" Cue greenlighting Disclosure 2, where even more exasperated trans people have to explain the damage the media is still causing trans people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* The angry mobs are already incited, he's just giving them good rhetoric permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago Don't forget to check out the latest season of Queer Eye too girl permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works -15 points 2 years ago Y'all are actual children. permalink fedilink source parent