▲ 960 ▼ Trans Teen Hatches Nefarious Plot To Undergo Years Of Medical Treatments And Counseling To Win At Swimming (www.theonion.com) submitted 2 years ago by seahorse@midwest.social [M] to c/theonion@midwest.social 146 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (3 children) It's not a problem because it's not happening to any meaningful degree. Trans women continue to be under, not overrepresented in high end sports, because there isn't a meaningful advantage after a couple of years of HRT. Please provide examples of this problem you claim exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] PopcornTin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Riley Gaines, who tied for fifth behind a number of cis women? Yeah, she looked at her future in sport and decided that grifting was easier and would pay better. Taylor Silverman, the skateboarder? You want to tell me about the super secret male advantage she lost to? I'm not seeing it. Are you going to claim that banning trans women from chess was reasonable too? People who are speaking up about this are bigots and sore losers. Trans women don't win disproportionately, there's no meaningful advantage, and all anyone ever has are anecdotes, almost all of which fail to check out to any meaningful degree. Riley Gaines didn't even go down a slot so what the fuck do you want here? Trans women don't get to compete, regardless of fairness? Because if so, say it with your fuckin chest. Don't try to pretend it's about fairness. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) When the punishment for expressing yourself on the matter is immediate aggression, and being labeled a bigot and transphobe, possibly getting kicked out of school and losing everything you've worked towards up to this point, we can't rely on women coming forward. You know.... like the same circumstances women face standing up for themselves in every other aspect of their lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago Which is, of course, why randomized anonymous surveys with large sample sizes show that this is actually a thing for a large number of women who are just too terrified to speak up oh no they don't, damn. Kind of cuts the legs out from under that sort of "silent majority" argument, which is almost always used to advertise the views of the noisy minority. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Shut up, TERF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Living in a land of make-believe. Imagined enemies everywhere. It must be exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (3 children) This stuff has obviously been in the news, we're talking about it right now. https://youtu.be/-Fb48tivB-0?si=mz-rJsvyaYunZNot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago Your second link didn't load for me. Your first was a propaganda network with a woman complaining about a trans girl being beaten by two cis girls. Ki d of seems like the girl in fourth should have been practicing harder like the girls in first and second did. Your news sources are lying, shading the truth, and using loaded language, to make and keep you angry so you don't make good decisions in life, and you should consider getting new sources. permalink fedilink source parent [–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago It's "been in the news" because it's an alt right "wedge issue". There is nothing meaningful here other than to advance hateful ideology to rubes, both siders, and those looking to be anti trans with plausibility permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago* "Look! An instance! It must be happening everywhere all the time because I can point to a time it kinda happened but not really!" permalink fedilink source parent [–] misophist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) alongside with giving the real woman if that trans man woman Oh, just go fuck all the way off, bigot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] jimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] fireflash38@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funny how it always comes out once you ask a few questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* Dude, no matter how you feel, that was some ignorant ass language from LemmyKnowsBest lol. "Real woman", "trans man woman". Obviously, someone who doesn't know the first thing about trans people holding strong opinions about trans people. That's a big ol fat yikes from me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (3 children) It's not a problem because it's not happening to any meaningful degree. Trans women continue to be under, not overrepresented in high end sports, because there isn't a meaningful advantage after a couple of years of HRT. Please provide examples of this problem you claim exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] PopcornTin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Riley Gaines, who tied for fifth behind a number of cis women? Yeah, she looked at her future in sport and decided that grifting was easier and would pay better. Taylor Silverman, the skateboarder? You want to tell me about the super secret male advantage she lost to? I'm not seeing it. Are you going to claim that banning trans women from chess was reasonable too? People who are speaking up about this are bigots and sore losers. Trans women don't win disproportionately, there's no meaningful advantage, and all anyone ever has are anecdotes, almost all of which fail to check out to any meaningful degree. Riley Gaines didn't even go down a slot so what the fuck do you want here? Trans women don't get to compete, regardless of fairness? Because if so, say it with your fuckin chest. Don't try to pretend it's about fairness. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) When the punishment for expressing yourself on the matter is immediate aggression, and being labeled a bigot and transphobe, possibly getting kicked out of school and losing everything you've worked towards up to this point, we can't rely on women coming forward. You know.... like the same circumstances women face standing up for themselves in every other aspect of their lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago Which is, of course, why randomized anonymous surveys with large sample sizes show that this is actually a thing for a large number of women who are just too terrified to speak up oh no they don't, damn. Kind of cuts the legs out from under that sort of "silent majority" argument, which is almost always used to advertise the views of the noisy minority. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Shut up, TERF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Living in a land of make-believe. Imagined enemies everywhere. It must be exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (3 children) This stuff has obviously been in the news, we're talking about it right now. https://youtu.be/-Fb48tivB-0?si=mz-rJsvyaYunZNot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago Your second link didn't load for me. Your first was a propaganda network with a woman complaining about a trans girl being beaten by two cis girls. Ki d of seems like the girl in fourth should have been practicing harder like the girls in first and second did. Your news sources are lying, shading the truth, and using loaded language, to make and keep you angry so you don't make good decisions in life, and you should consider getting new sources. permalink fedilink source parent [–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago It's "been in the news" because it's an alt right "wedge issue". There is nothing meaningful here other than to advance hateful ideology to rubes, both siders, and those looking to be anti trans with plausibility permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago* "Look! An instance! It must be happening everywhere all the time because I can point to a time it kinda happened but not really!" permalink fedilink source parent
[+] PopcornTin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Riley Gaines, who tied for fifth behind a number of cis women? Yeah, she looked at her future in sport and decided that grifting was easier and would pay better. Taylor Silverman, the skateboarder? You want to tell me about the super secret male advantage she lost to? I'm not seeing it. Are you going to claim that banning trans women from chess was reasonable too? People who are speaking up about this are bigots and sore losers. Trans women don't win disproportionately, there's no meaningful advantage, and all anyone ever has are anecdotes, almost all of which fail to check out to any meaningful degree. Riley Gaines didn't even go down a slot so what the fuck do you want here? Trans women don't get to compete, regardless of fairness? Because if so, say it with your fuckin chest. Don't try to pretend it's about fairness. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Riley Gaines, who tied for fifth behind a number of cis women? Yeah, she looked at her future in sport and decided that grifting was easier and would pay better. Taylor Silverman, the skateboarder? You want to tell me about the super secret male advantage she lost to? I'm not seeing it. Are you going to claim that banning trans women from chess was reasonable too? People who are speaking up about this are bigots and sore losers. Trans women don't win disproportionately, there's no meaningful advantage, and all anyone ever has are anecdotes, almost all of which fail to check out to any meaningful degree. Riley Gaines didn't even go down a slot so what the fuck do you want here? Trans women don't get to compete, regardless of fairness? Because if so, say it with your fuckin chest. Don't try to pretend it's about fairness. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) When the punishment for expressing yourself on the matter is immediate aggression, and being labeled a bigot and transphobe, possibly getting kicked out of school and losing everything you've worked towards up to this point, we can't rely on women coming forward. You know.... like the same circumstances women face standing up for themselves in every other aspect of their lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago Which is, of course, why randomized anonymous surveys with large sample sizes show that this is actually a thing for a large number of women who are just too terrified to speak up oh no they don't, damn. Kind of cuts the legs out from under that sort of "silent majority" argument, which is almost always used to advertise the views of the noisy minority. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Shut up, TERF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Living in a land of make-believe. Imagined enemies everywhere. It must be exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago Which is, of course, why randomized anonymous surveys with large sample sizes show that this is actually a thing for a large number of women who are just too terrified to speak up oh no they don't, damn. Kind of cuts the legs out from under that sort of "silent majority" argument, which is almost always used to advertise the views of the noisy minority. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Shut up, TERF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Living in a land of make-believe. Imagined enemies everywhere. It must be exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Living in a land of make-believe. Imagined enemies everywhere. It must be exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (3 children) This stuff has obviously been in the news, we're talking about it right now. https://youtu.be/-Fb48tivB-0?si=mz-rJsvyaYunZNot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago Your second link didn't load for me. Your first was a propaganda network with a woman complaining about a trans girl being beaten by two cis girls. Ki d of seems like the girl in fourth should have been practicing harder like the girls in first and second did. Your news sources are lying, shading the truth, and using loaded language, to make and keep you angry so you don't make good decisions in life, and you should consider getting new sources. permalink fedilink source parent [–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago It's "been in the news" because it's an alt right "wedge issue". There is nothing meaningful here other than to advance hateful ideology to rubes, both siders, and those looking to be anti trans with plausibility permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago* "Look! An instance! It must be happening everywhere all the time because I can point to a time it kinda happened but not really!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago Your second link didn't load for me. Your first was a propaganda network with a woman complaining about a trans girl being beaten by two cis girls. Ki d of seems like the girl in fourth should have been practicing harder like the girls in first and second did. Your news sources are lying, shading the truth, and using loaded language, to make and keep you angry so you don't make good decisions in life, and you should consider getting new sources. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago It's "been in the news" because it's an alt right "wedge issue". There is nothing meaningful here other than to advance hateful ideology to rubes, both siders, and those looking to be anti trans with plausibility permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago* "Look! An instance! It must be happening everywhere all the time because I can point to a time it kinda happened but not really!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] misophist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) alongside with giving the real woman if that trans man woman Oh, just go fuck all the way off, bigot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] jimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] fireflash38@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funny how it always comes out once you ask a few questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* Dude, no matter how you feel, that was some ignorant ass language from LemmyKnowsBest lol. "Real woman", "trans man woman". Obviously, someone who doesn't know the first thing about trans people holding strong opinions about trans people. That's a big ol fat yikes from me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fireflash38@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funny how it always comes out once you ask a few questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* Dude, no matter how you feel, that was some ignorant ass language from LemmyKnowsBest lol. "Real woman", "trans man woman". Obviously, someone who doesn't know the first thing about trans people holding strong opinions about trans people. That's a big ol fat yikes from me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* Dude, no matter how you feel, that was some ignorant ass language from LemmyKnowsBest lol. "Real woman", "trans man woman". Obviously, someone who doesn't know the first thing about trans people holding strong opinions about trans people. That's a big ol fat yikes from me. permalink fedilink source parent