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[–] 47 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Does anyone use this? I've yet to find a defining feature list of why anyone should use it aside from cosmetic differences. Does it even have a defining feature set?

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, you literally described 99,999% of distros tbf.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Sure, but that's what I'm asking about. Why should people try this one?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    A better question might be why shouldn't they? I'm not being pedantic (at least not intentionally) but if their defining characteristic is that they're nothing special, just a simple Linux distro that does the basic shit easily enough and looks nice - that has major appeal to people unfamiliar with Linux looking to leave other OS's behind. The vast majority of people that use an OS really have very little idea how it works or why. They just want some basic level of understanding and control over it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Let's use Ubuntu for comparison.

    • Ubuntu is more up-to-date than its spin-offs.
    • Ubuntu will outlive Ubuntu spin-offs, including Zorin.
    • Ubuntu offers paid support, whereas Zorin doesn't.
    • Ubuntu community is bigger than Zorin. More resources, tutorials, etc.

    Zorin adds only the following value:

    • More themes, primarily lookalikes, which is arguably a bad thing.

    When people see Windows, they expect Windows. Installers, package managers, peripherals like printers, etc. are different from Windows. Pretending to be Windows makes people feel at ease for a moment at the expense of fundamentally misunderstanding what operating system their computer runs on, and it'll trip them up eventually, probably sooner rather than later.

    See macOS: It looks and feels different. People don't mistake macOS for Windows. People who use Windows don't expect macOS to behave like Windows, and vice-versa. But hey, let's make macOS look and feel like Windows at first glance. Why can't I run that .exe? What do you mean, I must use an app store? What is HDCP, and why does it prevent me from connecting this laptop to the projector?

    For iOS that'd be questions like: Where is the Play Store? Why can't I install that (Android-only) app? I think you get my point.

    This is one of the reasons why branding exists. Yet many Linux distros would like to believe they can replicate the Windows experience through a miracle, and fool themselves into thinking that's a good thing for Linux newcomers. It's especially bad for people who don't know they use Linux, like when they use computers at the office, library, etc. with a distro like Zorin.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, most DEs copy Windows (KDE does, Cinnamon does, etc).

    • Taskbar along the bottom that shows opened programs

    • Start button that opens a small start menu in the bottom left

    • Clock in the bottom right

    • System tray in the bottom right

    • Frequently have menu bars at the top of apps

    • Minimise, maximise, close at the top right of each app

    • etc

    So tbh it seems harsh to criticise Zorin for copying Windows when it seems, with the exception of Gnome, that all actual up to date DEs have copied Windows. And if they went with vanilla Gnome they'd not really be offering anything different at all.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Tbh I used it few months ago and it's a pretty decent noob distro but I had some annoying graphical issues caused by snaps, which zorin use(d?) even by default so I can't recommend it because of that. It also doesn't allow much customization but that's GNOME for you.

    spoiler

    Also, this is just a me thing and not the distro's fault, but I couldn't stand having Zs everywhere even if it is a pure coincidence and I actually know the volunteers stand with Ukraine.

    It's a good distro for those who want an easy introduction to Linux, I just think Linux Mint or Pop_OS are better, but there's many who use it and swear by it.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I use it. It's great. I've tried Linux many times over the past decade but it never stuck until Zorin. If you're coming from Windows it's a very friendly (and polished) way of being welcomed to Linux while also showing off Linux's strengths, things that are often hidden to the user unless they want to explore the terminal.

    For Mac users who are Linux-curious I would recommend Ubuntu because it's much similar, whereas Zorin seems clearly designed with people who liked Windows 10 but not Windows 11.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If you want something like Mac, use elementary os.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    oh yeah. its an out of the box for folks (like myself) who like that. Lots of apps preinstalled including play on linux. So I can install and start using without adding any additional software. Its not the only oob distro but combining that with the look feel emulation is great and I have never seen an oob that sets up wine so well to use immediately. So its a bit like a combo of a gaming distro with oob and then the lookNfeel thing.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Xrdp server enabled with a toggle instead of messing with the terminal for 1 hour seems unique

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's not exclusive to Zorin however, that's just a Gnome 42 feature (unless the base gnome implementation is the one you're referring to that needs configuring in the terminal).

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    It seems ok, guess I should try the free version before making judgements, realized the pro is ONLY $50 and completely optional. Sorry

    at minimum Seems they charge a shitton for "bonus" software like they're a wannabe windows or some fuckin shit. Avoid this if you have any respect for yourself or open source software

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If you had respect for open source software, you'd be willing to pay for it

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    $2,000 for autocad? Misunderstood what the site was saying Doesn't sound like the kind of thing a linux distro should be selling. When was the last time Debian tried to get you to spend thousands of dollars on it??

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They are just showing you that you don't need to spend $2000 on Autocad and other listed software, because Zorin has all these open source tools bundled in it.

    Though tbh replacing Autocad or office365 with FOSS alternatives are bold claims because these alternatives just aren't viable in a commercial environment.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Linux people don't pay, they donate.

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    The pro version is just official support service from the company. That's how FOSS has always been monetized, no?

    Seems like a good deal for people completely unfamiliar with Linux who just want a cheap OS and help to keep it running.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    well I don't use Foss I use Proton 😜

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