▲ 508 ▼ Republicans slam broadband discounts for poor people, threaten to kill program | Ars Technica (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 68 comments fedilink hide all child comments And pull themselves up by their bootstraps as usual?
[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 73 points 2 years ago (3 children) Nationalize internet. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 34 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Hows about "Create local and municipal fiber to the curb to stoke competition and drive down prices" instead ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago Markets are extremely bad when it comes to proper allocation of essentials. Infrastructure in general should be nationalized at minimum, and heavily invested in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* The local fiber provider skipped my street altogether because spectrum has a contract with the apartments, and they don't think it's worth running fiber to compete. I wish this was a joke. The providers are literally NOT competing at all. Residential homeowners are screwed because spectrum has a chokehold on the other half of the neighborhood. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Asafum@feddit.nl 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's literally a fucking necessity so if course it's privately owned... It's so ridiculous how we treat necessities... Tell me what job you can apply to that doesn't require it to be done over the Internet? I remember when I could walk in to a store and shake the managers hand, then things changed and I got looked at like I was crazy "just go online and apply, why are you here?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Full agreement, way ahead of you. Instead of having a robust, publicly funded infrastructure-based necessity (internet service), it gets chopped up and sold piece-by-piece with price-gouging and local monopolies like warlords. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago Yuuup. Looking at you optimum. I have one option. :/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (2 children) My coop power company installed fiber, so my ISP is a coop. IMO I'd rather this that purely nationalized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Co-ops are cool, but markets in general have far too many disadvantages for me to advocate for market-based Socialism over a non-market solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Short of a complete revolution, market Socialisim is probably the most viable path out of capitalism. It doesn't have to stay there, and shouldn't, but it'll be a whole lot less messy than a revolution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Depends on the country, honestly. In America, I'm more inclined to believe Syndicalism would work, reform won't meaningfully happen from within. In general, I'm anti-tendency and believe that the material conditions of each space need to be analyzed independently. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nice where do you live permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Mississippi permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 34 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Hows about "Create local and municipal fiber to the curb to stoke competition and drive down prices" instead ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago Markets are extremely bad when it comes to proper allocation of essentials. Infrastructure in general should be nationalized at minimum, and heavily invested in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* The local fiber provider skipped my street altogether because spectrum has a contract with the apartments, and they don't think it's worth running fiber to compete. I wish this was a joke. The providers are literally NOT competing at all. Residential homeowners are screwed because spectrum has a chokehold on the other half of the neighborhood. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago Markets are extremely bad when it comes to proper allocation of essentials. Infrastructure in general should be nationalized at minimum, and heavily invested in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* The local fiber provider skipped my street altogether because spectrum has a contract with the apartments, and they don't think it's worth running fiber to compete. I wish this was a joke. The providers are literally NOT competing at all. Residential homeowners are screwed because spectrum has a chokehold on the other half of the neighborhood. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's literally a fucking necessity so if course it's privately owned... It's so ridiculous how we treat necessities... Tell me what job you can apply to that doesn't require it to be done over the Internet? I remember when I could walk in to a store and shake the managers hand, then things changed and I got looked at like I was crazy "just go online and apply, why are you here?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Full agreement, way ahead of you. Instead of having a robust, publicly funded infrastructure-based necessity (internet service), it gets chopped up and sold piece-by-piece with price-gouging and local monopolies like warlords. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago Yuuup. Looking at you optimum. I have one option. :/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Full agreement, way ahead of you. Instead of having a robust, publicly funded infrastructure-based necessity (internet service), it gets chopped up and sold piece-by-piece with price-gouging and local monopolies like warlords. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago Yuuup. Looking at you optimum. I have one option. :/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago Yuuup. Looking at you optimum. I have one option. :/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (2 children) My coop power company installed fiber, so my ISP is a coop. IMO I'd rather this that purely nationalized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Co-ops are cool, but markets in general have far too many disadvantages for me to advocate for market-based Socialism over a non-market solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Short of a complete revolution, market Socialisim is probably the most viable path out of capitalism. It doesn't have to stay there, and shouldn't, but it'll be a whole lot less messy than a revolution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Depends on the country, honestly. In America, I'm more inclined to believe Syndicalism would work, reform won't meaningfully happen from within. In general, I'm anti-tendency and believe that the material conditions of each space need to be analyzed independently. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nice where do you live permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Mississippi permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Co-ops are cool, but markets in general have far too many disadvantages for me to advocate for market-based Socialism over a non-market solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Short of a complete revolution, market Socialisim is probably the most viable path out of capitalism. It doesn't have to stay there, and shouldn't, but it'll be a whole lot less messy than a revolution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Depends on the country, honestly. In America, I'm more inclined to believe Syndicalism would work, reform won't meaningfully happen from within. In general, I'm anti-tendency and believe that the material conditions of each space need to be analyzed independently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Short of a complete revolution, market Socialisim is probably the most viable path out of capitalism. It doesn't have to stay there, and shouldn't, but it'll be a whole lot less messy than a revolution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Depends on the country, honestly. In America, I'm more inclined to believe Syndicalism would work, reform won't meaningfully happen from within. In general, I'm anti-tendency and believe that the material conditions of each space need to be analyzed independently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Depends on the country, honestly. In America, I'm more inclined to believe Syndicalism would work, reform won't meaningfully happen from within. In general, I'm anti-tendency and believe that the material conditions of each space need to be analyzed independently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nice where do you live permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Mississippi permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Mississippi permalink fedilink source parent