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[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (7 children) BY accident permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] MxM111@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago Accidentally. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago Bi accident permalink fedilink source parent [–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I guess it's a non-native English speaking mistake? I've never heard anyone say this apart from on the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anti@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It's an American thing (some parts anyway), my kids starting saying it from watching YouTubers until I corrected them harshly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'll forward you the number to call, but there are always Hot English Professors in your area, ready to mete out linguistic punishment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ADJACENT accident. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Unilaterally occuring in the vicinity of another event at the same time: possibly by chance: -A/N short description of the sorry State of English. Vol. 3 permalink fedilink source parent [+] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Deceptichum@kbin.social -8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children) Languages evolve. Both are fine and used/understood by English speakers. Descriptive grammar is the language as spoken and used by its speakers. Prescriptive grammar is a board of old men telling everyone else how they think it should be said. Be more like descriptive grammar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I think you have it backwards, perhaps. Prescriptive is like when a doctor tells you what drugs to take via a prescription. That's the old man one. (Although I think it's quite often younger people who have recently had the idea of correct and incorrect useages of languages drilled into them!) Oh, either you edited your post, or I'm crazy. :) Also, while too much prescriptivism is certainly obnoxious, not enough has its own problems. Language needs a certain amount of conformity to ensure were actually having a conversation about what we both think we're having a conversation about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Ah you must’ve caught the mixup before I edited it. Well spotted. permalink fedilink source parent [+] beckerist@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago FOR accident? permalink fedilink source parent [–] metaStatic@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Even an accident permalink fedilink source parent [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago OF accident permalink fedilink source parent [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago BY purpose permalink fedilink source parent [–] fruitSnackSupreme@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stop promoting bad English. English has rules for a reason, you can't just speak or write however you like, else we wouldn't get graded in English class, now would we? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Language can evolve all at wants, but Americans are still wrong whenever they say it. Language has to evolve into something, the Americans seem to be trying to make language evolve away from coherence. You're probably the type that says using the word literally to mean figuratively is acceptable as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago This comment is ironic considering that many words have different, more coherent spelling in American English, such as “color” or “theater”. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* Reddit user over here acting smarter than dictionaries and the word nerds who write them. https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/misuse-of-literally Oh and I’m not American, nice try arrogant Pom. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Icaria@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Languages evolve. Funny how this canard is always directed towards the literate. It's only ever allowed to evolve one way, usually with some vaguely political bias towards the youth/against anyone over the age of 25, or as some kind of act of pandering to the lower classes or some minority group (willfully ignoring that the spread is in large part attributable to multi-billion dollar media organisations, and far from organic). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This comment is a bit sus ngl permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Icaria@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago OP is clearly over 25, vent them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) American English perhaps, "on accident" sounds absolutely absurd to most Brits. Are you someone who thinks it doesn't matter if someone mixes up they're / their / there etc? These things do matter because if you don't use them correctly people are more likely to misunderstand you. All of my English teachers were "old" women by the way, nice attempt there to shoehorn in some baddies. Nothing worse than old men, am I right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Prater@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* Calm down. The whole point of language is communication and being able to understand others and make yourself understood. Considering that, most English speaking people would have absolutely no problem understanding the meaning of this post so it's really not that big of an issue. However, you do have a point about encouraging the use of good English in the sense that it allows for less confusion, but maybe if you came across of less of a pedantic porcupine who cares more about making fun of others than trying to give useful information then more people would be willing to listen to you. Just like you were trying to make that point Deceptichum was trying to point out that people use different forms of language in different settings such as being more informal and loose with grammar on the internet, for example. Using their/there/they're is much less worse than saying on accident instead of by accident. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Deceptichum@kbin.social -7 points 2 years ago Yeah, nah mate. Try again next time eh. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToffeeIsForClosers@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Unless I’m reading this wrong, I think you’ve got those two linguistic approaches reversed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago Bi accident permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I guess it's a non-native English speaking mistake? I've never heard anyone say this apart from on the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anti@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It's an American thing (some parts anyway), my kids starting saying it from watching YouTubers until I corrected them harshly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'll forward you the number to call, but there are always Hot English Professors in your area, ready to mete out linguistic punishment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anti@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It's an American thing (some parts anyway), my kids starting saying it from watching YouTubers until I corrected them harshly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'll forward you the number to call, but there are always Hot English Professors in your area, ready to mete out linguistic punishment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'll forward you the number to call, but there are always Hot English Professors in your area, ready to mete out linguistic punishment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ADJACENT accident. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Unilaterally occuring in the vicinity of another event at the same time: possibly by chance: -A/N short description of the sorry State of English. Vol. 3 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Deceptichum@kbin.social -8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children) Languages evolve. Both are fine and used/understood by English speakers. Descriptive grammar is the language as spoken and used by its speakers. Prescriptive grammar is a board of old men telling everyone else how they think it should be said. Be more like descriptive grammar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I think you have it backwards, perhaps. Prescriptive is like when a doctor tells you what drugs to take via a prescription. That's the old man one. (Although I think it's quite often younger people who have recently had the idea of correct and incorrect useages of languages drilled into them!) Oh, either you edited your post, or I'm crazy. :) Also, while too much prescriptivism is certainly obnoxious, not enough has its own problems. Language needs a certain amount of conformity to ensure were actually having a conversation about what we both think we're having a conversation about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Ah you must’ve caught the mixup before I edited it. Well spotted. permalink fedilink source parent [+] beckerist@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago FOR accident? permalink fedilink source parent [–] metaStatic@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Even an accident permalink fedilink source parent [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago OF accident permalink fedilink source parent [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago BY purpose permalink fedilink source parent [–] fruitSnackSupreme@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stop promoting bad English. English has rules for a reason, you can't just speak or write however you like, else we wouldn't get graded in English class, now would we? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Language can evolve all at wants, but Americans are still wrong whenever they say it. Language has to evolve into something, the Americans seem to be trying to make language evolve away from coherence. You're probably the type that says using the word literally to mean figuratively is acceptable as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago This comment is ironic considering that many words have different, more coherent spelling in American English, such as “color” or “theater”. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* Reddit user over here acting smarter than dictionaries and the word nerds who write them. https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/misuse-of-literally Oh and I’m not American, nice try arrogant Pom. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Icaria@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Languages evolve. Funny how this canard is always directed towards the literate. It's only ever allowed to evolve one way, usually with some vaguely political bias towards the youth/against anyone over the age of 25, or as some kind of act of pandering to the lower classes or some minority group (willfully ignoring that the spread is in large part attributable to multi-billion dollar media organisations, and far from organic). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This comment is a bit sus ngl permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Icaria@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago OP is clearly over 25, vent them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) American English perhaps, "on accident" sounds absolutely absurd to most Brits. Are you someone who thinks it doesn't matter if someone mixes up they're / their / there etc? These things do matter because if you don't use them correctly people are more likely to misunderstand you. All of my English teachers were "old" women by the way, nice attempt there to shoehorn in some baddies. Nothing worse than old men, am I right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Prater@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* Calm down. The whole point of language is communication and being able to understand others and make yourself understood. Considering that, most English speaking people would have absolutely no problem understanding the meaning of this post so it's really not that big of an issue. However, you do have a point about encouraging the use of good English in the sense that it allows for less confusion, but maybe if you came across of less of a pedantic porcupine who cares more about making fun of others than trying to give useful information then more people would be willing to listen to you. Just like you were trying to make that point Deceptichum was trying to point out that people use different forms of language in different settings such as being more informal and loose with grammar on the internet, for example. Using their/there/they're is much less worse than saying on accident instead of by accident. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Deceptichum@kbin.social -7 points 2 years ago Yeah, nah mate. Try again next time eh. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToffeeIsForClosers@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Unless I’m reading this wrong, I think you’ve got those two linguistic approaches reversed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I think you have it backwards, perhaps. Prescriptive is like when a doctor tells you what drugs to take via a prescription. That's the old man one. (Although I think it's quite often younger people who have recently had the idea of correct and incorrect useages of languages drilled into them!) Oh, either you edited your post, or I'm crazy. :) Also, while too much prescriptivism is certainly obnoxious, not enough has its own problems. Language needs a certain amount of conformity to ensure were actually having a conversation about what we both think we're having a conversation about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Ah you must’ve caught the mixup before I edited it. Well spotted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Ah you must’ve caught the mixup before I edited it. Well spotted. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] beckerist@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago FOR accident? permalink fedilink source parent [–] metaStatic@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Even an accident permalink fedilink source parent [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago OF accident permalink fedilink source parent [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago BY purpose permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fruitSnackSupreme@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stop promoting bad English. English has rules for a reason, you can't just speak or write however you like, else we wouldn't get graded in English class, now would we? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Language can evolve all at wants, but Americans are still wrong whenever they say it. Language has to evolve into something, the Americans seem to be trying to make language evolve away from coherence. You're probably the type that says using the word literally to mean figuratively is acceptable as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago This comment is ironic considering that many words have different, more coherent spelling in American English, such as “color” or “theater”. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* Reddit user over here acting smarter than dictionaries and the word nerds who write them. https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/misuse-of-literally Oh and I’m not American, nice try arrogant Pom. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago This comment is ironic considering that many words have different, more coherent spelling in American English, such as “color” or “theater”. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* Reddit user over here acting smarter than dictionaries and the word nerds who write them. https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/misuse-of-literally Oh and I’m not American, nice try arrogant Pom. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Icaria@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Languages evolve. Funny how this canard is always directed towards the literate. It's only ever allowed to evolve one way, usually with some vaguely political bias towards the youth/against anyone over the age of 25, or as some kind of act of pandering to the lower classes or some minority group (willfully ignoring that the spread is in large part attributable to multi-billion dollar media organisations, and far from organic). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This comment is a bit sus ngl permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Icaria@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago OP is clearly over 25, vent them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This comment is a bit sus ngl permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Icaria@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago OP is clearly over 25, vent them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Icaria@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago OP is clearly over 25, vent them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) American English perhaps, "on accident" sounds absolutely absurd to most Brits. Are you someone who thinks it doesn't matter if someone mixes up they're / their / there etc? These things do matter because if you don't use them correctly people are more likely to misunderstand you. All of my English teachers were "old" women by the way, nice attempt there to shoehorn in some baddies. Nothing worse than old men, am I right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Prater@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* Calm down. The whole point of language is communication and being able to understand others and make yourself understood. Considering that, most English speaking people would have absolutely no problem understanding the meaning of this post so it's really not that big of an issue. However, you do have a point about encouraging the use of good English in the sense that it allows for less confusion, but maybe if you came across of less of a pedantic porcupine who cares more about making fun of others than trying to give useful information then more people would be willing to listen to you. Just like you were trying to make that point Deceptichum was trying to point out that people use different forms of language in different settings such as being more informal and loose with grammar on the internet, for example. Using their/there/they're is much less worse than saying on accident instead of by accident. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Deceptichum@kbin.social -7 points 2 years ago Yeah, nah mate. Try again next time eh. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prater@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* Calm down. The whole point of language is communication and being able to understand others and make yourself understood. Considering that, most English speaking people would have absolutely no problem understanding the meaning of this post so it's really not that big of an issue. However, you do have a point about encouraging the use of good English in the sense that it allows for less confusion, but maybe if you came across of less of a pedantic porcupine who cares more about making fun of others than trying to give useful information then more people would be willing to listen to you. Just like you were trying to make that point Deceptichum was trying to point out that people use different forms of language in different settings such as being more informal and loose with grammar on the internet, for example. Using their/there/they're is much less worse than saying on accident instead of by accident. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Deceptichum@kbin.social -7 points 2 years ago Yeah, nah mate. Try again next time eh. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToffeeIsForClosers@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Unless I’m reading this wrong, I think you’ve got those two linguistic approaches reversed. permalink fedilink source parent