▲ 526 ▼ Taiwan reports second large-scale China air force incursion this week (www.reuters.com) submitted 3 years ago by RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 1055 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 31 points 3 years ago (1 child) Was the United States Civil War imperialism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 years ago* (3 children) The Civil War was imperialism but it was good imperialism. Fascist breakaways are a bit different: the Union taking over the South was infringing on their self-governance, but that's a good thing, Confederates were pure evil. It's like after WWII and Axis powers became occupied, could you technically call that colonialism? Maybe, but they needed to be. If Taiwan was blatantly fascistic, genocidal, had slavery, etc. I would support China colonizing them... but they aren't. They're neoliberal (much like China), which is lame, but they're not a Nazi state. Remind me, who was the first in Asia to legalize gay marriage? Your comparison is bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 42 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wait, so China is Neoliberal and fascist and state capitalist! And here I was thinking words had meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh please you hexshits use fascist and neoliberal interchangeably all the time, and you're not wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Please show me where I've used neoliberal and fascist interchangeably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not you particularly, but people obviously call the US/EU "fascist" sometimes and "neoliberal" other times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago (1 child) And that's relevant here why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] g_g@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) because you hexshits are a monolith obviously permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago I see you also read PostingMachine permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 37 points 3 years ago (1 child) If Taiwan was blatantly fascistic, genocidal, had slavery, etc. I would support China colonizing them... but they aren't. Taiwan AKA the Republic of China was founded as a settler colonial military dictatorship permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) And are they a military dictatorship today? Even when they were, they weren't a threat to world peace or humanity like the Confederacy or the Japanese Empire. By that logic do you think the US military should intervene in African military dictatorships? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 39 points 3 years ago The KMT was certainly a threat to Formosans, and to leftists living in the island they'd seized. If the Confederacy had survived the war as rump state in Southern Florida and continued to claim to rule the entire US South and in the mid nineties claimed to be a democracy and then finally elected a non-military president in the aughts, would you call the US imperialist for not recognizing the Confederacy? permalink fedilink source parent [–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 36 points 3 years ago Okay, that's consistent. Given that the modern incarnation of Taiwan was founded as a fascistic & genocidal settler colony, what was the timepoint at which a decisive end to the Chinese Civil War shifted from acceptable to unacceptable in your eyes? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 years ago* (3 children) The Civil War was imperialism but it was good imperialism. Fascist breakaways are a bit different: the Union taking over the South was infringing on their self-governance, but that's a good thing, Confederates were pure evil. It's like after WWII and Axis powers became occupied, could you technically call that colonialism? Maybe, but they needed to be. If Taiwan was blatantly fascistic, genocidal, had slavery, etc. I would support China colonizing them... but they aren't. They're neoliberal (much like China), which is lame, but they're not a Nazi state. Remind me, who was the first in Asia to legalize gay marriage? Your comparison is bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 42 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wait, so China is Neoliberal and fascist and state capitalist! And here I was thinking words had meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh please you hexshits use fascist and neoliberal interchangeably all the time, and you're not wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Please show me where I've used neoliberal and fascist interchangeably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not you particularly, but people obviously call the US/EU "fascist" sometimes and "neoliberal" other times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago (1 child) And that's relevant here why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] g_g@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) because you hexshits are a monolith obviously permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago I see you also read PostingMachine permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 37 points 3 years ago (1 child) If Taiwan was blatantly fascistic, genocidal, had slavery, etc. I would support China colonizing them... but they aren't. Taiwan AKA the Republic of China was founded as a settler colonial military dictatorship permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) And are they a military dictatorship today? Even when they were, they weren't a threat to world peace or humanity like the Confederacy or the Japanese Empire. By that logic do you think the US military should intervene in African military dictatorships? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 39 points 3 years ago The KMT was certainly a threat to Formosans, and to leftists living in the island they'd seized. If the Confederacy had survived the war as rump state in Southern Florida and continued to claim to rule the entire US South and in the mid nineties claimed to be a democracy and then finally elected a non-military president in the aughts, would you call the US imperialist for not recognizing the Confederacy? permalink fedilink source parent [–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 36 points 3 years ago Okay, that's consistent. Given that the modern incarnation of Taiwan was founded as a fascistic & genocidal settler colony, what was the timepoint at which a decisive end to the Chinese Civil War shifted from acceptable to unacceptable in your eyes? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 42 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wait, so China is Neoliberal and fascist and state capitalist! And here I was thinking words had meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh please you hexshits use fascist and neoliberal interchangeably all the time, and you're not wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Please show me where I've used neoliberal and fascist interchangeably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not you particularly, but people obviously call the US/EU "fascist" sometimes and "neoliberal" other times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago (1 child) And that's relevant here why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] g_g@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) because you hexshits are a monolith obviously permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago I see you also read PostingMachine permalink fedilink source parent
[+] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh please you hexshits use fascist and neoliberal interchangeably all the time, and you're not wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Please show me where I've used neoliberal and fascist interchangeably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not you particularly, but people obviously call the US/EU "fascist" sometimes and "neoliberal" other times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago (1 child) And that's relevant here why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] g_g@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) because you hexshits are a monolith obviously permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago I see you also read PostingMachine permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Please show me where I've used neoliberal and fascist interchangeably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not you particularly, but people obviously call the US/EU "fascist" sometimes and "neoliberal" other times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago (1 child) And that's relevant here why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] g_g@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) because you hexshits are a monolith obviously permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago I see you also read PostingMachine permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not you particularly, but people obviously call the US/EU "fascist" sometimes and "neoliberal" other times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago (1 child) And that's relevant here why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] g_g@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) because you hexshits are a monolith obviously permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago I see you also read PostingMachine permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 35 points 3 years ago (1 child) And that's relevant here why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] g_g@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) because you hexshits are a monolith obviously permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago I see you also read PostingMachine permalink fedilink source parent
[–] g_g@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) because you hexshits are a monolith obviously permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago I see you also read PostingMachine permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago I see you also read PostingMachine permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 37 points 3 years ago (1 child) If Taiwan was blatantly fascistic, genocidal, had slavery, etc. I would support China colonizing them... but they aren't. Taiwan AKA the Republic of China was founded as a settler colonial military dictatorship permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) And are they a military dictatorship today? Even when they were, they weren't a threat to world peace or humanity like the Confederacy or the Japanese Empire. By that logic do you think the US military should intervene in African military dictatorships? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 39 points 3 years ago The KMT was certainly a threat to Formosans, and to leftists living in the island they'd seized. If the Confederacy had survived the war as rump state in Southern Florida and continued to claim to rule the entire US South and in the mid nineties claimed to be a democracy and then finally elected a non-military president in the aughts, would you call the US imperialist for not recognizing the Confederacy? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) And are they a military dictatorship today? Even when they were, they weren't a threat to world peace or humanity like the Confederacy or the Japanese Empire. By that logic do you think the US military should intervene in African military dictatorships? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 39 points 3 years ago The KMT was certainly a threat to Formosans, and to leftists living in the island they'd seized. If the Confederacy had survived the war as rump state in Southern Florida and continued to claim to rule the entire US South and in the mid nineties claimed to be a democracy and then finally elected a non-military president in the aughts, would you call the US imperialist for not recognizing the Confederacy? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 39 points 3 years ago The KMT was certainly a threat to Formosans, and to leftists living in the island they'd seized. If the Confederacy had survived the war as rump state in Southern Florida and continued to claim to rule the entire US South and in the mid nineties claimed to be a democracy and then finally elected a non-military president in the aughts, would you call the US imperialist for not recognizing the Confederacy? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 36 points 3 years ago Okay, that's consistent. Given that the modern incarnation of Taiwan was founded as a fascistic & genocidal settler colony, what was the timepoint at which a decisive end to the Chinese Civil War shifted from acceptable to unacceptable in your eyes? permalink fedilink source parent