▲ 394 ▼ Rate of suicide in the U.S. peaks among older men, a hard demographic to reach (www.usatoday.com) submitted 2 years ago by AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 120 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Godric@lemmy.world -27 points 2 years ago (6 children) Are you deadass using suicide as a stage to spew agitprop? You should feel ashamed of yourself, this is beyond ghoulish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well when suicide rates are at an 80-year high, while the lack of a social safety net continues to deny people the dignity of life after work... well it's not a huge leap. It wrong to say it's capitalism, since every avenue of governance is plagued by the same monopolization of power and wealth, but when capitalism is held as closely by some as their religious beliefs; and these same beliefs are manipulated so as to convince people to vote against the construction of said social safety net.... well. again, not a huge leap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't disagree with you, I just find using death and suicide as an opportunity to shill one's political ideology unasked to be opportunistic and utterly disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Don't talk about why it's happening or what you think might help reduce it, just be sad that it is happening. We'll talk about it once it has stopped happening and everyone has stopped being sad about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago that's fair permalink fedilink source parent [–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world [S] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Ah yes, never "the time" to talk about this work camp of a supposed society, especially when the suffering of its victims is brought up. I'm ghoulish to cope with the absurdity of what we are coerced into doing to ourselves. Others cope by pretending there's nothing wrong, even that they love propagating this exploitation/value maximization trap. I'm not using this person's father as an agitprop. That would imply I have reasonable hope for change for the better in our times. There is not. Too far captured, too far propagandized. That said, one thing I won't let them have is my silent, obedient consent as they toss their dead capital batteries without a thought after spending most of their very real lives in service to running up their ego scores that have no meaningful impact on their already gluttonous lifestyles. If that makes me the bastard in your eyes, so be it, I'm a bastard if it makes you happy. I'm the bad guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago So say we all. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Godric@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Twist and turn and justify it to yourself all day, you're opportunistically shilling your ideology unasked in a thread about suicide, and it's revolting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago I find it more disgusting that you're using the tragedy to try to silence any talk about improving things. Or acting like political ideology is just some hobby or niche interest rather than something that has a significant impact on us all and can drive some to suicide. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Ok. If it makes you happy, I'm an unmasked, opportunistically revolting shill too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It's also true. permalink fedilink source parent [+] DeepGradientAscent@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi -1 points 2 years ago Hear, hear. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago It’s been studied. Books have been written about alienation and isolation in capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well when suicide rates are at an 80-year high, while the lack of a social safety net continues to deny people the dignity of life after work... well it's not a huge leap. It wrong to say it's capitalism, since every avenue of governance is plagued by the same monopolization of power and wealth, but when capitalism is held as closely by some as their religious beliefs; and these same beliefs are manipulated so as to convince people to vote against the construction of said social safety net.... well. again, not a huge leap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't disagree with you, I just find using death and suicide as an opportunity to shill one's political ideology unasked to be opportunistic and utterly disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Don't talk about why it's happening or what you think might help reduce it, just be sad that it is happening. We'll talk about it once it has stopped happening and everyone has stopped being sad about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago that's fair permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't disagree with you, I just find using death and suicide as an opportunity to shill one's political ideology unasked to be opportunistic and utterly disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Don't talk about why it's happening or what you think might help reduce it, just be sad that it is happening. We'll talk about it once it has stopped happening and everyone has stopped being sad about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago that's fair permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Don't talk about why it's happening or what you think might help reduce it, just be sad that it is happening. We'll talk about it once it has stopped happening and everyone has stopped being sad about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world [S] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Ah yes, never "the time" to talk about this work camp of a supposed society, especially when the suffering of its victims is brought up. I'm ghoulish to cope with the absurdity of what we are coerced into doing to ourselves. Others cope by pretending there's nothing wrong, even that they love propagating this exploitation/value maximization trap. I'm not using this person's father as an agitprop. That would imply I have reasonable hope for change for the better in our times. There is not. Too far captured, too far propagandized. That said, one thing I won't let them have is my silent, obedient consent as they toss their dead capital batteries without a thought after spending most of their very real lives in service to running up their ego scores that have no meaningful impact on their already gluttonous lifestyles. If that makes me the bastard in your eyes, so be it, I'm a bastard if it makes you happy. I'm the bad guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago So say we all. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Godric@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Twist and turn and justify it to yourself all day, you're opportunistically shilling your ideology unasked in a thread about suicide, and it's revolting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago I find it more disgusting that you're using the tragedy to try to silence any talk about improving things. Or acting like political ideology is just some hobby or niche interest rather than something that has a significant impact on us all and can drive some to suicide. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Ok. If it makes you happy, I'm an unmasked, opportunistically revolting shill too. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Godric@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Twist and turn and justify it to yourself all day, you're opportunistically shilling your ideology unasked in a thread about suicide, and it's revolting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago I find it more disgusting that you're using the tragedy to try to silence any talk about improving things. Or acting like political ideology is just some hobby or niche interest rather than something that has a significant impact on us all and can drive some to suicide. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Ok. If it makes you happy, I'm an unmasked, opportunistically revolting shill too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago I find it more disgusting that you're using the tragedy to try to silence any talk about improving things. Or acting like political ideology is just some hobby or niche interest rather than something that has a significant impact on us all and can drive some to suicide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Ok. If it makes you happy, I'm an unmasked, opportunistically revolting shill too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago It's also true. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DeepGradientAscent@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi -1 points 2 years ago Hear, hear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago It’s been studied. Books have been written about alienation and isolation in capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent