▲ 1576 ▼ Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app store fight (www.theverge.com) submitted 2 years ago by flop_leash_973@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 254 comments fedilink hide all child comments Well, I’ll be damned. They finally won one it sounds like.
[–] maryjayjay@lemmy.world 249 points 2 years ago (4 children) Great! Now do Apple permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 90 points 2 years ago (4 children) It was ruled previously that Apple don’t have a large enough market share permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] phx@lemmy.world 111 points 2 years ago (1 child) But if they force Google to open their app store, I hope that do it for fucking everyone. At least on Google devices you still can sideload apps, and fairly easy TBH. My biggest annoyance is the "you can't buy stuff in apps without giving us a cut" which fucked up stuff like ebook apps etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Kindle app pretty blatantly tells you why they removed in-app purchases. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Darkhoof@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (2 children) In the US it does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but US favour companies over people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm pretty sure the ruling in this post is in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago That's why we are surprised. But given this went through, maybe they could go for it again who knows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* And it's two companies fighting, how far did the anti monopoly pushes against apple and google get before Epic took them up because they were a profitable venture? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but they also have more rights than the consumer, rather than the other way about lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm pretty sure the ruling in this post is in the US permalink fedilink source parent [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago (4 children) Which is weird because they have a larger market share than Google >.> permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They have a 99% market share on iPhone though. Google has less on Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who has the other 1% on iPhone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Jailbroken I assume permalink fedilink source parent [–] notapantsday@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) ...in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Like this case? permalink fedilink source parent [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago Which is all the US courts would be looking at. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) No they don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago They absolutely do. This case would only look at US market share, they don’t care about anywhere else. And why would they? Imagine a company with 10% US market share and 90% worldwide market share, would you expect US courts to deem that a monopoly? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maestro@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago In the US, market share of Apple is between 50-60% while Android is between 40-50%, depending on the source. Worldwide is more in favour of Android, but this is a US lawsuit. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) "Sir, SIR, we are a nonprofit? Please leave or I will have to launch the facility into iFreespace and stay hovering a foot above ground for the rest of time as per the iNflanational iFukU-nion that is a slight inconvenience for anyone not part of the of the 23.000.001 iToUrPPs living aboard the ilolTax Inflationstate iLevitate CorpoHappytat KZ-23" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 25 points 2 years ago And consoles. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MrSilkworm@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It's not an apples to apples comparable situation. Pun intended! permalink fedilink source parent [+] Darkncoldbard@lemmy.world -42 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why? Just don't buy apple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) That isn't really relevant when it comes to holding them to a different legal standard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Darkncoldbard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* And if you don't own apple products, why would you care? permalink fedilink source parent [–] jack@monero.town 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Exactly. The locked down nature is part of the Apple experience, this is what their customers are paying for permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) The law should still apply equally to every company, shouldn't it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Apple doesn't licence out their operating system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 90 points 2 years ago (4 children) It was ruled previously that Apple don’t have a large enough market share permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] phx@lemmy.world 111 points 2 years ago (1 child) But if they force Google to open their app store, I hope that do it for fucking everyone. At least on Google devices you still can sideload apps, and fairly easy TBH. My biggest annoyance is the "you can't buy stuff in apps without giving us a cut" which fucked up stuff like ebook apps etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Kindle app pretty blatantly tells you why they removed in-app purchases. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Darkhoof@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (2 children) In the US it does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but US favour companies over people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm pretty sure the ruling in this post is in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago That's why we are surprised. But given this went through, maybe they could go for it again who knows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* And it's two companies fighting, how far did the anti monopoly pushes against apple and google get before Epic took them up because they were a profitable venture? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but they also have more rights than the consumer, rather than the other way about lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm pretty sure the ruling in this post is in the US permalink fedilink source parent [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago (4 children) Which is weird because they have a larger market share than Google >.> permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They have a 99% market share on iPhone though. Google has less on Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who has the other 1% on iPhone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Jailbroken I assume permalink fedilink source parent [–] notapantsday@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) ...in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Like this case? permalink fedilink source parent [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago Which is all the US courts would be looking at. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) No they don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago They absolutely do. This case would only look at US market share, they don’t care about anywhere else. And why would they? Imagine a company with 10% US market share and 90% worldwide market share, would you expect US courts to deem that a monopoly? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maestro@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago In the US, market share of Apple is between 50-60% while Android is between 40-50%, depending on the source. Worldwide is more in favour of Android, but this is a US lawsuit. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) "Sir, SIR, we are a nonprofit? Please leave or I will have to launch the facility into iFreespace and stay hovering a foot above ground for the rest of time as per the iNflanational iFukU-nion that is a slight inconvenience for anyone not part of the of the 23.000.001 iToUrPPs living aboard the ilolTax Inflationstate iLevitate CorpoHappytat KZ-23" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phx@lemmy.world 111 points 2 years ago (1 child) But if they force Google to open their app store, I hope that do it for fucking everyone. At least on Google devices you still can sideload apps, and fairly easy TBH. My biggest annoyance is the "you can't buy stuff in apps without giving us a cut" which fucked up stuff like ebook apps etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Kindle app pretty blatantly tells you why they removed in-app purchases. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Kindle app pretty blatantly tells you why they removed in-app purchases. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Darkhoof@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (2 children) In the US it does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but US favour companies over people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm pretty sure the ruling in this post is in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago That's why we are surprised. But given this went through, maybe they could go for it again who knows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* And it's two companies fighting, how far did the anti monopoly pushes against apple and google get before Epic took them up because they were a profitable venture? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but they also have more rights than the consumer, rather than the other way about lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm pretty sure the ruling in this post is in the US permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but US favour companies over people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm pretty sure the ruling in this post is in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago That's why we are surprised. But given this went through, maybe they could go for it again who knows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* And it's two companies fighting, how far did the anti monopoly pushes against apple and google get before Epic took them up because they were a profitable venture? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aidan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm pretty sure the ruling in this post is in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago That's why we are surprised. But given this went through, maybe they could go for it again who knows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* And it's two companies fighting, how far did the anti monopoly pushes against apple and google get before Epic took them up because they were a profitable venture? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago That's why we are surprised. But given this went through, maybe they could go for it again who knows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* And it's two companies fighting, how far did the anti monopoly pushes against apple and google get before Epic took them up because they were a profitable venture? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but they also have more rights than the consumer, rather than the other way about lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm pretty sure the ruling in this post is in the US permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm pretty sure the ruling in this post is in the US permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago (4 children) Which is weird because they have a larger market share than Google >.> permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They have a 99% market share on iPhone though. Google has less on Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who has the other 1% on iPhone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Jailbroken I assume permalink fedilink source parent [–] notapantsday@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) ...in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Like this case? permalink fedilink source parent [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago Which is all the US courts would be looking at. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) No they don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago They absolutely do. This case would only look at US market share, they don’t care about anywhere else. And why would they? Imagine a company with 10% US market share and 90% worldwide market share, would you expect US courts to deem that a monopoly? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maestro@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago In the US, market share of Apple is between 50-60% while Android is between 40-50%, depending on the source. Worldwide is more in favour of Android, but this is a US lawsuit. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They have a 99% market share on iPhone though. Google has less on Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who has the other 1% on iPhone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Jailbroken I assume permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who has the other 1% on iPhone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Jailbroken I assume permalink fedilink source parent
[–] notapantsday@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) ...in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Like this case? permalink fedilink source parent [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago Which is all the US courts would be looking at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago Which is all the US courts would be looking at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) No they don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago They absolutely do. This case would only look at US market share, they don’t care about anywhere else. And why would they? Imagine a company with 10% US market share and 90% worldwide market share, would you expect US courts to deem that a monopoly? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maestro@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago In the US, market share of Apple is between 50-60% while Android is between 40-50%, depending on the source. Worldwide is more in favour of Android, but this is a US lawsuit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago They absolutely do. This case would only look at US market share, they don’t care about anywhere else. And why would they? Imagine a company with 10% US market share and 90% worldwide market share, would you expect US courts to deem that a monopoly? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maestro@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago In the US, market share of Apple is between 50-60% while Android is between 40-50%, depending on the source. Worldwide is more in favour of Android, but this is a US lawsuit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) "Sir, SIR, we are a nonprofit? Please leave or I will have to launch the facility into iFreespace and stay hovering a foot above ground for the rest of time as per the iNflanational iFukU-nion that is a slight inconvenience for anyone not part of the of the 23.000.001 iToUrPPs living aboard the ilolTax Inflationstate iLevitate CorpoHappytat KZ-23" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrSilkworm@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It's not an apples to apples comparable situation. Pun intended! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Darkncoldbard@lemmy.world -42 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why? Just don't buy apple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) That isn't really relevant when it comes to holding them to a different legal standard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Darkncoldbard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* And if you don't own apple products, why would you care? permalink fedilink source parent [–] jack@monero.town 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Exactly. The locked down nature is part of the Apple experience, this is what their customers are paying for permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) The law should still apply equally to every company, shouldn't it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Apple doesn't licence out their operating system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) That isn't really relevant when it comes to holding them to a different legal standard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Darkncoldbard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* And if you don't own apple products, why would you care? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Darkncoldbard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* And if you don't own apple products, why would you care? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jack@monero.town 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Exactly. The locked down nature is part of the Apple experience, this is what their customers are paying for permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) The law should still apply equally to every company, shouldn't it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Apple doesn't licence out their operating system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) The law should still apply equally to every company, shouldn't it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Apple doesn't licence out their operating system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Apple doesn't licence out their operating system. permalink fedilink source parent