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My holy trinity of trust (lemmy.ml)
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The inner circle so to speak

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[–] 25 points 3 years ago (4 children)

Tutanota is German, which is part of the 14 eyes global surveillance network. I prefer my Switz Protonmail better.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    https://www.engadget.com/protonmail-climate-activist-ip-swiss-french-authorities-233004304.html

    Europol requested it. Even though you think your service is not under 14 eyes there still is gonna be many other problems.

    You can always find problems with the service itself.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago*

    And that proves what exactly? Swiss law required them to hand over an IP address. Swiss ptivacy is not absolute. They have laws. An IP address didn't grant them access to the encrypted emails. Proton openly admits they had no idea who the user was. The activist should have used a VPN, which Proton also offers as a service, and then whatever activity trail they linked to the IP would have died at Proton's VPN network.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Selfhosting an email is very hard but I think that at the end it’s worth it

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Until Gmail/Hotmail decides your IP is a spammer and forever you have deliverability issues from then on

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Interesting, is this a wild spread problem? I have heard of people that host email services for years and have no problems.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It’s a worry I see posted a ton, and have been advised numerous times that email is the one thing you don’t wanna selfhost.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I self-host (postfix and dovecot) and will admit of all the self-hosted stuff I have it's the most annoying/time-consuming to manage but doable if you're willing to spend a lot of time reading and updating things. I wouldn't recommend it to the vast majority of people though.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    I read some horror stories about folks who self-hosted for years and how they eventually quit and moved to an established email provider. It didn't seem like something I wanted to deal with.

    Do you think using one of those federated email networks where it's invite only and between people you know would have any appreciable use cases in conjunction with an established provider? I can think of having a small org use it maybe but not between friends or family.

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