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Black olive birthday (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/lemmybewholesome@lemmy.world
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[–] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Was there even pre-tomato pizza though?

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yup. Pizza as a word to mean a flatbread with toppings pre-date the arrival of tomatoes in Europe by a good 1400 years ish.

    Just like how ketchup originally was just kind of a type of plant matter derived sauce with a runny consistency that utilized a fair amount of salt. Tomato ketchup was at one point a fairly new fangled novelty as for the longest time the favoured version of it was made of mushrooms.

    The tomato more than most tends to just take over certain parts of food culture and drives out all other varieties. It's kind of the cuckoo of the food world.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    for the longest time the favoured version of it was made of mushrooms.

    What in the fuck?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah that sound terrible.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I’d try it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I sometimes watch this 18th century cooking show on YouTube and saw that a while ago and was surprised since we consider tomatoes synonymous with ketchup. IIRC mushroom ketchup has more of a consistency to Worcestershire sauce than tomato ketchup.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I guess every culture that came to the conclusion to make some kind of bread at some point in time eventually put stuff on that bread. Like leftovers. The question is, do we call that a pizza... Or is it a flat sandwich or something...

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This website should answer your question: https://cuberule.com/

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah it just had spaghetti or a crème sauce on top instead.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Excuse me what is spaghetti sauce without tomatoes?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not spaghetti sauce, spaghetti

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Just noodles on top of dough?

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