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[–] Neil@lemmy.ml 257 points 2 years ago (9 children) Arch user here. My recommendation to noobies is always Linux Mint even though I don't use it. I use Arch, btw. permalink fedilink source hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] stinerman@midwest.social 90 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I think Arch is fine, but I'd never recommend it to a new Linux user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 3laws@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most Arch users (myself included) don't recommend Arch to n00bs or even light seasoned Linux users if they already are happy with their setup. But the meme is the meme and I like bullying Arch elitists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago Even I wasn't cruel enough to banish my mother to arch. She uses fedora on her desktop (because she liked gnome) and Linux mint on her laptop because I wanted her to make sure she still wanted to switch after trying it for about a month. She wanted to jump head first but it would have been a pain to go through four installs if she didn't like it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ProtonBadger@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (3 children) Indeed, besides most linux distributions are fairly equally lightweight and can be customized. I tried 4-5 distros this past January (Arch being one) when I got my new gaming laptop and they all booted in ~9.5 sec for example, and perform equally well in general, they had fairly similar RAM load with the same desktop environment. Arch is about managing the system as a hobby, which is fine. One problem here is that new users install Endeavour/Garuda but don't know how to manage updates safely about pacnew/pacsave/etc. So the system might slowly "rot" without them knowing about it because new components use old configs, etc.. I also recommend Mint to new users. I don't use Mint, nor do I use Arch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Arch is about managing the system as a hobby You're thinking of Gentoo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) As a Gentoo user currently vacationing in Arch-land I'm not sure whether to feel insulted or affirmed. Imean, it is but some might say that to disparage it or its users 😅 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago No disparaging intended, it just isn't my thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gbin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago For me: Gentoo is a meta distro, you are the distro maintainer then the power user of that specific distro you created for yourself which can definitely be fun. Arch is more like: let's give you one instance of a Gentoo distro when you are tired of being the distro maintainer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago Tbf I don't think many people know about pacdiff. The way I found out about it was by looking up a warning about pacnew/pacsave during an upgrade, because I was bored. Very random. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oce@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago Arch is about managing the system as a hobby, which is fine. Only the installation takes more time, maintenance is no longer than the noob friendly ones. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PhoenixTwoFive@iusearchlinux.fyi 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hey, you're on the wrong Lemmy instance. :P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Neil@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago I so want to join that one :D Brilliant name. ... Then go back to Gentoo and stay anyway >:P permalink fedilink source parent [+] Darken@reddthat.com 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Neil@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I remember when this was the joke with Slackware. I think I’m remembering right. I’ve never used arch. If I get another laptop one day I’ll give it a go. permalink fedilink source parent [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago I use both, but Mint is strictly better if you want a no-fuss system that just works and will continue to do so permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago As a seasoned distrohopper, can confirm. When I try something new, I always ask myself: Would a noob be ok with the fact that in this distro you have to do things this way. In Fedora, Debian, Manjaro and so many other I always end up saying “no” more than a few times. With Mint, you just don’t bump into these situations very often. IMO, Mint is the best starter distro for most users. If you know your friend is very technical, you can recommend something else. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago I finally tried out Linux Mint this year at work (we use Fedora for some of our different tasks). It arms like such a nice experience out of the box, and I’d put it on a family computer in a second. permalink fedilink source parent [–] reric88@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Mint was my first used, was straightforward and easy to get going. Still use mint. I've always read it doesn't really matter what distro you choose, just to pick one you like. That's confusing to a noob because they don't know why they should or shouldn't like a specific one. Mint is very simple to setup and works very much like a windows PC by default. Can even set it up to work like a Mac if you want to. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cwilliams@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Yep. LM or Ubuntu is my recommendation to newbies permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stinerman@midwest.social 90 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I think Arch is fine, but I'd never recommend it to a new Linux user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 3laws@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most Arch users (myself included) don't recommend Arch to n00bs or even light seasoned Linux users if they already are happy with their setup. But the meme is the meme and I like bullying Arch elitists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago Even I wasn't cruel enough to banish my mother to arch. She uses fedora on her desktop (because she liked gnome) and Linux mint on her laptop because I wanted her to make sure she still wanted to switch after trying it for about a month. She wanted to jump head first but it would have been a pain to go through four installs if she didn't like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most Arch users (myself included) don't recommend Arch to n00bs or even light seasoned Linux users if they already are happy with their setup. But the meme is the meme and I like bullying Arch elitists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago Even I wasn't cruel enough to banish my mother to arch. She uses fedora on her desktop (because she liked gnome) and Linux mint on her laptop because I wanted her to make sure she still wanted to switch after trying it for about a month. She wanted to jump head first but it would have been a pain to go through four installs if she didn't like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago Even I wasn't cruel enough to banish my mother to arch. She uses fedora on her desktop (because she liked gnome) and Linux mint on her laptop because I wanted her to make sure she still wanted to switch after trying it for about a month. She wanted to jump head first but it would have been a pain to go through four installs if she didn't like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ProtonBadger@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (3 children) Indeed, besides most linux distributions are fairly equally lightweight and can be customized. I tried 4-5 distros this past January (Arch being one) when I got my new gaming laptop and they all booted in ~9.5 sec for example, and perform equally well in general, they had fairly similar RAM load with the same desktop environment. Arch is about managing the system as a hobby, which is fine. One problem here is that new users install Endeavour/Garuda but don't know how to manage updates safely about pacnew/pacsave/etc. So the system might slowly "rot" without them knowing about it because new components use old configs, etc.. I also recommend Mint to new users. I don't use Mint, nor do I use Arch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Arch is about managing the system as a hobby You're thinking of Gentoo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) As a Gentoo user currently vacationing in Arch-land I'm not sure whether to feel insulted or affirmed. Imean, it is but some might say that to disparage it or its users 😅 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago No disparaging intended, it just isn't my thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gbin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago For me: Gentoo is a meta distro, you are the distro maintainer then the power user of that specific distro you created for yourself which can definitely be fun. Arch is more like: let's give you one instance of a Gentoo distro when you are tired of being the distro maintainer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago Tbf I don't think many people know about pacdiff. The way I found out about it was by looking up a warning about pacnew/pacsave during an upgrade, because I was bored. Very random. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oce@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago Arch is about managing the system as a hobby, which is fine. Only the installation takes more time, maintenance is no longer than the noob friendly ones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Arch is about managing the system as a hobby You're thinking of Gentoo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) As a Gentoo user currently vacationing in Arch-land I'm not sure whether to feel insulted or affirmed. Imean, it is but some might say that to disparage it or its users 😅 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago No disparaging intended, it just isn't my thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gbin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago For me: Gentoo is a meta distro, you are the distro maintainer then the power user of that specific distro you created for yourself which can definitely be fun. Arch is more like: let's give you one instance of a Gentoo distro when you are tired of being the distro maintainer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) As a Gentoo user currently vacationing in Arch-land I'm not sure whether to feel insulted or affirmed. Imean, it is but some might say that to disparage it or its users 😅 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago No disparaging intended, it just isn't my thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gbin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago For me: Gentoo is a meta distro, you are the distro maintainer then the power user of that specific distro you created for yourself which can definitely be fun. Arch is more like: let's give you one instance of a Gentoo distro when you are tired of being the distro maintainer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago No disparaging intended, it just isn't my thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gbin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago For me: Gentoo is a meta distro, you are the distro maintainer then the power user of that specific distro you created for yourself which can definitely be fun. Arch is more like: let's give you one instance of a Gentoo distro when you are tired of being the distro maintainer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago Tbf I don't think many people know about pacdiff. The way I found out about it was by looking up a warning about pacnew/pacsave during an upgrade, because I was bored. Very random. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oce@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago Arch is about managing the system as a hobby, which is fine. Only the installation takes more time, maintenance is no longer than the noob friendly ones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PhoenixTwoFive@iusearchlinux.fyi 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hey, you're on the wrong Lemmy instance. :P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Neil@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago I so want to join that one :D Brilliant name. ... Then go back to Gentoo and stay anyway >:P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago I so want to join that one :D Brilliant name. ... Then go back to Gentoo and stay anyway >:P permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Darken@reddthat.com 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Neil@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I remember when this was the joke with Slackware. I think I’m remembering right. I’ve never used arch. If I get another laptop one day I’ll give it a go. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Neil@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I remember when this was the joke with Slackware. I think I’m remembering right. I’ve never used arch. If I get another laptop one day I’ll give it a go. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I remember when this was the joke with Slackware. I think I’m remembering right. I’ve never used arch. If I get another laptop one day I’ll give it a go. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago I use both, but Mint is strictly better if you want a no-fuss system that just works and will continue to do so permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago As a seasoned distrohopper, can confirm. When I try something new, I always ask myself: Would a noob be ok with the fact that in this distro you have to do things this way. In Fedora, Debian, Manjaro and so many other I always end up saying “no” more than a few times. With Mint, you just don’t bump into these situations very often. IMO, Mint is the best starter distro for most users. If you know your friend is very technical, you can recommend something else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago I finally tried out Linux Mint this year at work (we use Fedora for some of our different tasks). It arms like such a nice experience out of the box, and I’d put it on a family computer in a second. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reric88@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Mint was my first used, was straightforward and easy to get going. Still use mint. I've always read it doesn't really matter what distro you choose, just to pick one you like. That's confusing to a noob because they don't know why they should or shouldn't like a specific one. Mint is very simple to setup and works very much like a windows PC by default. Can even set it up to work like a Mac if you want to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cwilliams@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Yep. LM or Ubuntu is my recommendation to newbies permalink fedilink source parent