▲ 1251 ▼ stop driving (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by hairinmybellybutt@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 196 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] kapx132@lemmy.world 26 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] magiccupcake@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (1 child) You don't have to replace your commute, if its not feasable. But you could try replacing other smaller trips with a bike if you can. Like trips to the grocery store or doctors appointment. Truthfully if the infrastructure to do these things doesn't exist for you, then don't endanger yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago I'm trying to figure out how to fit a month's worth of groceries onto a bike? Or even a week's worth? permalink fedilink source parent [–] glasgitarrewelt@feddit.de 14 points 3 years ago (3 children) 40 minutes is a long ride, true. Maybe buy a foldable bike or a bike rack for your car, park your car outside of the city and reduce car traffic by riding from there to your workplace by bike? It sure would make this city a better place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] kapx132@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 3 years ago You'll also keep fit and you won't have to spend time stuck in traffic! permalink fedilink source parent [+] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago park your car outside of the city I like this kind of scheme, it should be promoted more maybe if it's not being pushed much permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aux@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (2 children) 40 minutes is a warm up, not a long ride. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LaVilleDuBonheur@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) It is if you have to do it twice every single day. Going to work shouldn't take longer than 20 minutes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago No it's not, I used to cycle 1 hour one way without any issues. Every day. Including during cold European winters in -20. 40 minutes is nothing special. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I used to do a 40 minute bike commute twice a day. Once it becomes part of your routine those 40 minutes are easy to conquer. Now I do the same distance by speed pedelec in 25 minutes. I'm faster at work now than when I used to go by car. If you can't make the trip safe though, than you shouldn't. But you can, like me, start out on nice days and incorporate into your days as a workout just to try an see. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 years ago You're allowed to drive if there's no other infrastructure connecting point A to point B. This post is dumb because it lacks nuance. There are some cases where driving makes sense. If you live in a city where other options are safe and reliable, you should use those instead. And if you live in a city where there should be safe and reliable options but there aren't, well that's what you should be really upset about. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 7 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Nobody is trying to get rid of cars for those in rural areas, as that's unfeasible. The ONLY place people genuinely care about cars existing is in cities where they can be built and changed to be walkable. I shouldn't NEED a car to get to a grocery store. I shouldn't NEED a car to get to work. I should NEED a car to get to anything fun to do. This is a feasible goal. It's about choice. I have no choice but to have a car. I don't want a car. I am forced to have a car because the alternative is... There is no alternative, right now. It's about the freedom to have the choice to not drive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kapx132@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 2 points 3 years ago I live in Minneapolis which is one of the more walkable cities in the US and it's still not fantastic. I have to walk 30 minutes to the nearest bus stop with only 1/3 of it on sidewalks. After that I can get to downtown (or anywhere but suburbia) on the busses and metro, but it's pretty slow permalink fedilink source parent [–] oce@jlai.lu 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Doesn't you rural area come with horses or donkeys? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kapx132@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 1 point 3 years ago Fresh eggs for breakfast? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 years ago By forcing your elected officials to work on a public traffic infrastructure that could get you to the city in 30 minutes. permalink fedilink source parent [+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kapx132@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] magiccupcake@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (1 child) You don't have to replace your commute, if its not feasable. But you could try replacing other smaller trips with a bike if you can. Like trips to the grocery store or doctors appointment. Truthfully if the infrastructure to do these things doesn't exist for you, then don't endanger yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago I'm trying to figure out how to fit a month's worth of groceries onto a bike? Or even a week's worth? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 2 points 3 years ago I'm trying to figure out how to fit a month's worth of groceries onto a bike? Or even a week's worth? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] glasgitarrewelt@feddit.de 14 points 3 years ago (3 children) 40 minutes is a long ride, true. Maybe buy a foldable bike or a bike rack for your car, park your car outside of the city and reduce car traffic by riding from there to your workplace by bike? It sure would make this city a better place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] kapx132@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 3 years ago You'll also keep fit and you won't have to spend time stuck in traffic! permalink fedilink source parent [+] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago park your car outside of the city I like this kind of scheme, it should be promoted more maybe if it's not being pushed much permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aux@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (2 children) 40 minutes is a warm up, not a long ride. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LaVilleDuBonheur@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) It is if you have to do it twice every single day. Going to work shouldn't take longer than 20 minutes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago No it's not, I used to cycle 1 hour one way without any issues. Every day. Including during cold European winters in -20. 40 minutes is nothing special. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kapx132@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 3 years ago You'll also keep fit and you won't have to spend time stuck in traffic! permalink fedilink source parent [+] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 3 years ago You'll also keep fit and you won't have to spend time stuck in traffic! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago park your car outside of the city I like this kind of scheme, it should be promoted more maybe if it's not being pushed much permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (2 children) 40 minutes is a warm up, not a long ride. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LaVilleDuBonheur@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) It is if you have to do it twice every single day. Going to work shouldn't take longer than 20 minutes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago No it's not, I used to cycle 1 hour one way without any issues. Every day. Including during cold European winters in -20. 40 minutes is nothing special. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) It is if you have to do it twice every single day. Going to work shouldn't take longer than 20 minutes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago No it's not, I used to cycle 1 hour one way without any issues. Every day. Including during cold European winters in -20. 40 minutes is nothing special. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago No it's not, I used to cycle 1 hour one way without any issues. Every day. Including during cold European winters in -20. 40 minutes is nothing special. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I used to do a 40 minute bike commute twice a day. Once it becomes part of your routine those 40 minutes are easy to conquer. Now I do the same distance by speed pedelec in 25 minutes. I'm faster at work now than when I used to go by car. If you can't make the trip safe though, than you shouldn't. But you can, like me, start out on nice days and incorporate into your days as a workout just to try an see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 years ago You're allowed to drive if there's no other infrastructure connecting point A to point B. This post is dumb because it lacks nuance. There are some cases where driving makes sense. If you live in a city where other options are safe and reliable, you should use those instead. And if you live in a city where there should be safe and reliable options but there aren't, well that's what you should be really upset about. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 7 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Nobody is trying to get rid of cars for those in rural areas, as that's unfeasible. The ONLY place people genuinely care about cars existing is in cities where they can be built and changed to be walkable. I shouldn't NEED a car to get to a grocery store. I shouldn't NEED a car to get to work. I should NEED a car to get to anything fun to do. This is a feasible goal. It's about choice. I have no choice but to have a car. I don't want a car. I am forced to have a car because the alternative is... There is no alternative, right now. It's about the freedom to have the choice to not drive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kapx132@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 2 points 3 years ago I live in Minneapolis which is one of the more walkable cities in the US and it's still not fantastic. I have to walk 30 minutes to the nearest bus stop with only 1/3 of it on sidewalks. After that I can get to downtown (or anywhere but suburbia) on the busses and metro, but it's pretty slow permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kapx132@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 2 points 3 years ago I live in Minneapolis which is one of the more walkable cities in the US and it's still not fantastic. I have to walk 30 minutes to the nearest bus stop with only 1/3 of it on sidewalks. After that I can get to downtown (or anywhere but suburbia) on the busses and metro, but it's pretty slow permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 2 points 3 years ago I live in Minneapolis which is one of the more walkable cities in the US and it's still not fantastic. I have to walk 30 minutes to the nearest bus stop with only 1/3 of it on sidewalks. After that I can get to downtown (or anywhere but suburbia) on the busses and metro, but it's pretty slow permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oce@jlai.lu 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Doesn't you rural area come with horses or donkeys? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kapx132@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 1 point 3 years ago Fresh eggs for breakfast? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kapx132@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 1 point 3 years ago Fresh eggs for breakfast? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 years ago By forcing your elected officials to work on a public traffic infrastructure that could get you to the city in 30 minutes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kapx132@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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