▲ 195 ▼ House Passes Johnson’s Plan to Avert Shutdown in Bipartisan Vote (www.nytimes.com) submitted 2 years ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 61 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 93 points 2 years ago (2 children) He did exactly what they threw McCarthy out for and Democrats got everything they wanted, Republicans got nothing of what they wanted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (3 children) I think this could be looking at it from the wrong perspective. To me, Johnson's rise to speaker looks like a calculated effort by Christian Nationalists (aka MAGA) to position a future coup leader and presidential candidate. McCarthy is an unpopular career politician, where Johnson is a younger unkown on the national stage. The Conservative propaganda machine tried to position DeSantis as Trump's successor, but he's proved a total failure. Calling it now. Johnson will run for president in 2028 and, depending on polling, could be Trumps VP pick. He wouldn't think twice about doing what Pence failed to do on Jan 6. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children) Trump will be 82 and in jail or dead by 2028. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Stop it, I can only get so erect! permalink fedilink source parent [–] lipilee@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago Don't threaten us with a good time! permalink fedilink source parent [–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Some scandal will tank him before he gets that far. I heard rumors a male escort is going to come forward about a relationship with Mike Johnson. Not saying that's true, but it's just a matter of time before something comes out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Johnson’s rise to speaker looks like a calculated effort by Christian Nationalists (aka MAGA) to position a future coup leader and presidential candidate. Yes, and look how well placed he actually is: from unknown to third in line to the presidency of the US. Given a successful coup, the involvement of the military, or some as yet unforeseen fiery tragedy involving the president and VP, he's ready to slide right in. I think that's exactly why Johnson was chosen, and quite possibly why the change in rules regarding the speakership was demanded even before the very first day of the 118th Congress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) and Democrats got everything they wanted Except funding for Ukraine and a better timeframe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) This deadline is longer than the previous funding bill's deadline and the added attention on the Israel-Hamas conflict has given factions on both sides something to compromise on: No funding for Ukraine in exchange for no funding for Israel. It's a bit weird, but it worked out for Johnson. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I was countering the assertion that Democrats got everything they wanted. They did not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, it still has to go through the Senate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh. So there's still a chance to make it worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago Last I saw, McConnell was pressing for funding Ukraine. Whether he'll have to compromise or ever intended to fight for it is anyone's guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (3 children) I think this could be looking at it from the wrong perspective. To me, Johnson's rise to speaker looks like a calculated effort by Christian Nationalists (aka MAGA) to position a future coup leader and presidential candidate. McCarthy is an unpopular career politician, where Johnson is a younger unkown on the national stage. The Conservative propaganda machine tried to position DeSantis as Trump's successor, but he's proved a total failure. Calling it now. Johnson will run for president in 2028 and, depending on polling, could be Trumps VP pick. He wouldn't think twice about doing what Pence failed to do on Jan 6. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children) Trump will be 82 and in jail or dead by 2028. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Stop it, I can only get so erect! permalink fedilink source parent [–] lipilee@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago Don't threaten us with a good time! permalink fedilink source parent [–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Some scandal will tank him before he gets that far. I heard rumors a male escort is going to come forward about a relationship with Mike Johnson. Not saying that's true, but it's just a matter of time before something comes out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Johnson’s rise to speaker looks like a calculated effort by Christian Nationalists (aka MAGA) to position a future coup leader and presidential candidate. Yes, and look how well placed he actually is: from unknown to third in line to the presidency of the US. Given a successful coup, the involvement of the military, or some as yet unforeseen fiery tragedy involving the president and VP, he's ready to slide right in. I think that's exactly why Johnson was chosen, and quite possibly why the change in rules regarding the speakership was demanded even before the very first day of the 118th Congress. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children) Trump will be 82 and in jail or dead by 2028. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Stop it, I can only get so erect! permalink fedilink source parent [–] lipilee@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago Don't threaten us with a good time! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Stop it, I can only get so erect! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago Don't threaten us with a good time! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Some scandal will tank him before he gets that far. I heard rumors a male escort is going to come forward about a relationship with Mike Johnson. Not saying that's true, but it's just a matter of time before something comes out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Johnson’s rise to speaker looks like a calculated effort by Christian Nationalists (aka MAGA) to position a future coup leader and presidential candidate. Yes, and look how well placed he actually is: from unknown to third in line to the presidency of the US. Given a successful coup, the involvement of the military, or some as yet unforeseen fiery tragedy involving the president and VP, he's ready to slide right in. I think that's exactly why Johnson was chosen, and quite possibly why the change in rules regarding the speakership was demanded even before the very first day of the 118th Congress. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) and Democrats got everything they wanted Except funding for Ukraine and a better timeframe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) This deadline is longer than the previous funding bill's deadline and the added attention on the Israel-Hamas conflict has given factions on both sides something to compromise on: No funding for Ukraine in exchange for no funding for Israel. It's a bit weird, but it worked out for Johnson. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I was countering the assertion that Democrats got everything they wanted. They did not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, it still has to go through the Senate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh. So there's still a chance to make it worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago Last I saw, McConnell was pressing for funding Ukraine. Whether he'll have to compromise or ever intended to fight for it is anyone's guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) This deadline is longer than the previous funding bill's deadline and the added attention on the Israel-Hamas conflict has given factions on both sides something to compromise on: No funding for Ukraine in exchange for no funding for Israel. It's a bit weird, but it worked out for Johnson. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I was countering the assertion that Democrats got everything they wanted. They did not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago I was countering the assertion that Democrats got everything they wanted. They did not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, it still has to go through the Senate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh. So there's still a chance to make it worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago Last I saw, McConnell was pressing for funding Ukraine. Whether he'll have to compromise or ever intended to fight for it is anyone's guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh. So there's still a chance to make it worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago Last I saw, McConnell was pressing for funding Ukraine. Whether he'll have to compromise or ever intended to fight for it is anyone's guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago Last I saw, McConnell was pressing for funding Ukraine. Whether he'll have to compromise or ever intended to fight for it is anyone's guess. permalink fedilink source parent