▲ 360 ▼ Perfectly legal for cars to harvest your texts, call logs (www.theregister.com) submitted 2 years ago by L4s@lemmy.world [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world 36 comments fedilink hide all child comments Perfectly legal for cars to harvest your texts, call logs::Just because they store messages in a way owners can't access doesn't mean it's a privacy violation, US court rules
[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (4 children) We need data privacy laws. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] grayman@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) That cannot happen until the dinosaurs in power vacate the positions. Hopefully they are not replaced with new corrupt twats. D & R, they are an embarrassment and do not represent the regular citizen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Hopefully they are not replaced with new corrupt twats. Ron Howard narrator voice: "they were" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tranquilizer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Vote with your money. Apparently, people WANT to have their data harvested. Which goes for anything. Just look at how many people are still using Chrome rather than Brave or Firefox. Or Gmail, Gdrive rather than Protonmail/drive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Amir@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago Brave is shady as hell. Use open source firefox builds if possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NAXLAB@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If voting with your money is a valid way for people to collectively decide right and wrong, does that mean people with more money get more votes? Does that mean the people with the most money get the most votes? If that's all true, does that mean if someone has way more money than everyone else, they get to decide what's right and wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tranquilizer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If that's all true, does that mean if someone has way more money than everyone else, they get to decide what's right and wrong? That's indeed the mechanism that is used to get to the situation we are in. Money, based on quantity, is worthless to us filthy commoners. But it's fundamentally a representation of your time and attention; the only currency that matters. Laws will not help to solve anything. Not only is it supposed to represent the same collective you just described as making bad decisions, they are administered by government, which in turn is a mechanism for business to advance. Even chickenfeed laws to "better privacy" when corporation like Google gets out of hand won't help in the long term. The ONLY solution is proper education. Not in government schools (which produces mindless consumers), but by spreading this information yourself. And nobody said it's going to be easy when you're up against the limitless money press big business has access to. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) cough, cough Librewolf Cuz Firefox is a snitch too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] weker01@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) In what way is Firefox a snitch? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sends all your traffic to google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amir@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent [–] nutsack@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago bro are you trying to crash the stock market permalink fedilink source parent [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago We'll have to fight for them since our courts have been loaded with judges who crave industrialist dick. However the car companies are glad to abuse their power and sell your data to law enforcement and insurance companies. If were diligant and can highlight specific examples about how this policy destroys lives, we might get the right to install our own software into our cars as well as improving right to repair. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grayman@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) That cannot happen until the dinosaurs in power vacate the positions. Hopefully they are not replaced with new corrupt twats. D & R, they are an embarrassment and do not represent the regular citizen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Hopefully they are not replaced with new corrupt twats. Ron Howard narrator voice: "they were" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Hopefully they are not replaced with new corrupt twats. Ron Howard narrator voice: "they were" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tranquilizer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Vote with your money. Apparently, people WANT to have their data harvested. Which goes for anything. Just look at how many people are still using Chrome rather than Brave or Firefox. Or Gmail, Gdrive rather than Protonmail/drive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Amir@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago Brave is shady as hell. Use open source firefox builds if possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NAXLAB@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If voting with your money is a valid way for people to collectively decide right and wrong, does that mean people with more money get more votes? Does that mean the people with the most money get the most votes? If that's all true, does that mean if someone has way more money than everyone else, they get to decide what's right and wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tranquilizer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If that's all true, does that mean if someone has way more money than everyone else, they get to decide what's right and wrong? That's indeed the mechanism that is used to get to the situation we are in. Money, based on quantity, is worthless to us filthy commoners. But it's fundamentally a representation of your time and attention; the only currency that matters. Laws will not help to solve anything. Not only is it supposed to represent the same collective you just described as making bad decisions, they are administered by government, which in turn is a mechanism for business to advance. Even chickenfeed laws to "better privacy" when corporation like Google gets out of hand won't help in the long term. The ONLY solution is proper education. Not in government schools (which produces mindless consumers), but by spreading this information yourself. And nobody said it's going to be easy when you're up against the limitless money press big business has access to. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) cough, cough Librewolf Cuz Firefox is a snitch too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] weker01@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) In what way is Firefox a snitch? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sends all your traffic to google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amir@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago Brave is shady as hell. Use open source firefox builds if possible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NAXLAB@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If voting with your money is a valid way for people to collectively decide right and wrong, does that mean people with more money get more votes? Does that mean the people with the most money get the most votes? If that's all true, does that mean if someone has way more money than everyone else, they get to decide what's right and wrong? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tranquilizer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If that's all true, does that mean if someone has way more money than everyone else, they get to decide what's right and wrong? That's indeed the mechanism that is used to get to the situation we are in. Money, based on quantity, is worthless to us filthy commoners. But it's fundamentally a representation of your time and attention; the only currency that matters. Laws will not help to solve anything. Not only is it supposed to represent the same collective you just described as making bad decisions, they are administered by government, which in turn is a mechanism for business to advance. Even chickenfeed laws to "better privacy" when corporation like Google gets out of hand won't help in the long term. The ONLY solution is proper education. Not in government schools (which produces mindless consumers), but by spreading this information yourself. And nobody said it's going to be easy when you're up against the limitless money press big business has access to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tranquilizer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If that's all true, does that mean if someone has way more money than everyone else, they get to decide what's right and wrong? That's indeed the mechanism that is used to get to the situation we are in. Money, based on quantity, is worthless to us filthy commoners. But it's fundamentally a representation of your time and attention; the only currency that matters. Laws will not help to solve anything. Not only is it supposed to represent the same collective you just described as making bad decisions, they are administered by government, which in turn is a mechanism for business to advance. Even chickenfeed laws to "better privacy" when corporation like Google gets out of hand won't help in the long term. The ONLY solution is proper education. Not in government schools (which produces mindless consumers), but by spreading this information yourself. And nobody said it's going to be easy when you're up against the limitless money press big business has access to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) cough, cough Librewolf Cuz Firefox is a snitch too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] weker01@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) In what way is Firefox a snitch? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sends all your traffic to google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amir@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] weker01@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) In what way is Firefox a snitch? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sends all your traffic to google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amir@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sends all your traffic to google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amir@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago bro are you trying to crash the stock market permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago We'll have to fight for them since our courts have been loaded with judges who crave industrialist dick. However the car companies are glad to abuse their power and sell your data to law enforcement and insurance companies. If were diligant and can highlight specific examples about how this policy destroys lives, we might get the right to install our own software into our cars as well as improving right to repair. permalink fedilink source parent