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What would you considered "Ethical Piracy" (lemmy.ml)
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Hi guys, first of all, I fully support Piracy. But Im writing a piece on my blog about what I might considere as "Ethical Piracy" and I would like to hear your concepts of it.

Basically my line is if I have the capacity of paying for something and is more convinient that pirating, ill pay. It happens to me a lot when I wanna watch a movie with my boyfriend. I like original audio, but he likes dub, so instead of scrapping through the web looking for a dub, I just select the language on the streaming platform. That is convinient to me.

In what situations do you think is not OK to pirate something? And where is 100 justified and everybody should sail the seas instead?

I would like to hear you.

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[–] 11 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

In what situations do you think is not OK to pirate something?

Never pay money for pirated content or ask someone to pay money for pirated content. Donations to keep a site running are borderline and iffy, depending on the implementation and transparency. As soon as you earn any kind of revenue or treat it as your 'job' it crosses into the unethical IMO.

Second point related to money: Pirating stuff you could easily pay for is probably bad, if the creator receives $0 from you. There might still be reasons to do so (not wanting to support DRM for example), but if you got the cash you better find a way to support the actual creators (merch, donations...). The smaller the author the heavier the moral responsibility to bring some money their way. This also weighs in the other direction: It's probably accetpable or even good to not give more money to giant corporations that abuse intellectual property for their own gains and who shit on creators.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    This also weighs in the other direction: It’s probably accetpable or even good to not give more money to giant corporations that abuse intellectual property for their own gains and who shit on creators.

    What is your take on this particularly in relation to the SAG-AFTRA strike over streaming residuals? Even if you want to pay for a creator's work, most ways to consume content now mostly does not get to the creators of a work. I'm not even sure how renting or buying a title through a digital service like amazon or google is distributed to creators vs how much goes to the platform and copyright holder.

    My feeling is that most titles from the past decade fall into this category

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

    What is your take on this particularly in relation to the SAG-AFTRA strike over streaming residuals? Even if you want to pay for a creator’s work, most ways to consume content now mostly does not get to the creators of a work.

    On general principal I always support workers rights to strike and applaud them for fighting for a higher wage.

    My personal opinion in this particular case: Many writers in this industry very much overvalue their worth, especially considering the low-brow content they create (10 years or more of capeshit), how replaceable they are (barely any original idea in sight), the low general quality of their work (I'm not even watching this shit for free, you'd have to pay me) and the encroaching power of AI. I've never seen such a long-string of garbage writing coming from Hollywood (or maybe I'm just lucky having observed a golden age of TV) and I've not seen a similar decline in quality from other craftsmen (cinematography, acting, sound and music...) in the industry. Maybe writers can make some short-term gains, but unless they hone their craft to bring it above the level of what ChatGPT can create right now, they are going to lose their power struggle in the long run.

    I’m not even sure how renting or buying a title through a digital service like amazon or google is distributed to creators vs how much goes to the platform and copyright holder.

    Often there are options. Speaking about music: A spotify subscription is most likely useless for supporting smaller artists, but buying their merch or stuff from bandcamp is a no-brainer if you have the money.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    The average salary for a Script Writer is $64,000/yr. If you're simply looking at the value they produce, that's bloody peanuts.

    And you say they're replacable, but you could say the same thing about electricians, and they have a union and strike. Of course, the Electrician produces less value but makes on average $10,000 more than the average Script Writer ($75,000).

    I'd also like to remind you to separate the end product from the quality of the Script Writer. They do a skilled job and work hard, and they are only one cog in a machine. I have had this exact conversation with managers and execs in my own field who wanted to hold individual contributors accountable for things that simply were not their fault.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Electricians are replaceable as in you dould hire another or completely do away with ?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    As in "could hire another".

    The best place for unions is commoditizable skilled-labor jobs. You CAN be devalued, but you have inherent value that should be maintained by not letting yourself get dragged into a race-to-the-bottom with powerful companies.

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