▲ 340 ▼ Warning: New Outlook sends passwords, mails and other data to Microsoft | mailbox.org (mailbox.org) submitted 2 years ago by bbbhltz@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org 65 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Slartibartfass@feddit.de 21 points 2 years ago (3 children) PSA: mailbox.org has a great, privacy focused email service. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] aes@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I went on a trawl on email security and privacy. It doesn't fucking exist. Regular mails w/e sure But I'm never talking to someone via email again. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jcarax@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Agreed, but unfortunately, unless they implement VJOURNAL in their caldav implementation, I'll probably switch to Fastmail when my prepay is up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Laser@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fastmail is a great provider, very happy customers, but with them being in a five eyes country, I don't trust them. But it's only email which is a nightmare protocol regarding privacy anyways so I don't really care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago Encryption + POP should be part of every privacy conscious person's repertoire. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago Privacy-focused email doesn't truly exist, since it's likely 90%+ of people you email are probably using Gmail, Hotmail/Outlook, or Yahoo. Companies like Gmail/Google could still build a profile of you if they wanted to, by collecting all the threads you're a participant in. The best you can do is self-host your mailbox (e.g. Using Mailcow) with an encrypted file system (e.g. using LUKS), but you'd still need to use an SMTP gateway to ensure deliverability, so it's going to be relayed through, and ultimately end up at, some third-party you have no control over. Some third-parties don't even have TLS enabled for their email servers. You shouldn't think of email as a private or secure communication mechanism unless you're encrypting your emails. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aes@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I went on a trawl on email security and privacy. It doesn't fucking exist. Regular mails w/e sure But I'm never talking to someone via email again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jcarax@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Agreed, but unfortunately, unless they implement VJOURNAL in their caldav implementation, I'll probably switch to Fastmail when my prepay is up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Laser@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fastmail is a great provider, very happy customers, but with them being in a five eyes country, I don't trust them. But it's only email which is a nightmare protocol regarding privacy anyways so I don't really care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago Encryption + POP should be part of every privacy conscious person's repertoire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Laser@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fastmail is a great provider, very happy customers, but with them being in a five eyes country, I don't trust them. But it's only email which is a nightmare protocol regarding privacy anyways so I don't really care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago Encryption + POP should be part of every privacy conscious person's repertoire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago Encryption + POP should be part of every privacy conscious person's repertoire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dan@upvote.au 1 point 2 years ago Privacy-focused email doesn't truly exist, since it's likely 90%+ of people you email are probably using Gmail, Hotmail/Outlook, or Yahoo. Companies like Gmail/Google could still build a profile of you if they wanted to, by collecting all the threads you're a participant in. The best you can do is self-host your mailbox (e.g. Using Mailcow) with an encrypted file system (e.g. using LUKS), but you'd still need to use an SMTP gateway to ensure deliverability, so it's going to be relayed through, and ultimately end up at, some third-party you have no control over. Some third-parties don't even have TLS enabled for their email servers. You shouldn't think of email as a private or secure communication mechanism unless you're encrypting your emails. permalink fedilink source parent