▲ 498 ▼ Nashville college freshman Jillian Ludwig dies after being hit by a stray bullet at a local park (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by GiddyGap@lemm.ee to c/news@lemmy.world 299 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 years ago (3 children) That's what happens when people can do private sales without any checks 👍 FREEDOM MOTHERFUCKER! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Thank goodness mentally incompetent people can still purchase and own firearms, wouldn't feel like freedom any other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Evia@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) But mentally incompetent people can hold guns? Wonderful permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but that makes it harder for people to actually address the fact that high rates of firearm ownership is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for high rates of homicide, which has consistently been correlated with a lack of socioeconomic mobility among young adult men across societies and times. But that's hard, so instead we just sarcastically post "FREEDOM" and "now is not the time to address guns" while, ironically, never actually doing the difficult but necessary work of discussing the underlying structural economic conditions and caste dynamics which lead to this problem. Because that's hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Faildini@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago High rates of gun ownership is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for high rates of homicide. "Necessary" would imply that high homicide rate is flat out impossible without high gun ownership, which is clearly not true. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Mentally incompetent Americans. Mentally incompetent people in civilized countries usually don't even come close to guns. EDIT: Looks like the ammosexuals don't like my take. Yes, people lile you are left unarmed for good in civilized countries, if you like it or not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Wouldn't his status as being mentally incompetent come up somewhere? I'm not from the USA and hate guns so I don't know all the details about these background checks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) In some of our states, a "background check" is when the examiner looks up from his desk. If you're blocking the background, he checks the "good to own a firearm" box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Yeah except the part where it is federal law that all FFL dealers have to run an FBI NICSs check on all gun sales in every state because that is a federal law. permalink fedilink source parent [+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago (2 children) The alternative is that you have to do paperwork every time you buy or sell a gun, which is actually worse than innocent people dying permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The only paperwork I need is the one written by a bunch of old white dudes who owned slaves and barely washed 😎 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Looks like someone didn't find that funny 😂 permalink fedilink source parent [–] kurwa@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Freedom to kill innocent people, freedom to die randomly by flying bullets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Can't have one without the other (contrary to what ammosexuals believe) permalink fedilink source parent
[+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Thank goodness mentally incompetent people can still purchase and own firearms, wouldn't feel like freedom any other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Evia@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) But mentally incompetent people can hold guns? Wonderful permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but that makes it harder for people to actually address the fact that high rates of firearm ownership is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for high rates of homicide, which has consistently been correlated with a lack of socioeconomic mobility among young adult men across societies and times. But that's hard, so instead we just sarcastically post "FREEDOM" and "now is not the time to address guns" while, ironically, never actually doing the difficult but necessary work of discussing the underlying structural economic conditions and caste dynamics which lead to this problem. Because that's hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Faildini@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago High rates of gun ownership is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for high rates of homicide. "Necessary" would imply that high homicide rate is flat out impossible without high gun ownership, which is clearly not true. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Mentally incompetent Americans. Mentally incompetent people in civilized countries usually don't even come close to guns. EDIT: Looks like the ammosexuals don't like my take. Yes, people lile you are left unarmed for good in civilized countries, if you like it or not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Wouldn't his status as being mentally incompetent come up somewhere? I'm not from the USA and hate guns so I don't know all the details about these background checks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) In some of our states, a "background check" is when the examiner looks up from his desk. If you're blocking the background, he checks the "good to own a firearm" box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Yeah except the part where it is federal law that all FFL dealers have to run an FBI NICSs check on all gun sales in every state because that is a federal law. permalink fedilink source parent [+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Thank goodness mentally incompetent people can still purchase and own firearms, wouldn't feel like freedom any other way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] Evia@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) But mentally incompetent people can hold guns? Wonderful permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but that makes it harder for people to actually address the fact that high rates of firearm ownership is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for high rates of homicide, which has consistently been correlated with a lack of socioeconomic mobility among young adult men across societies and times. But that's hard, so instead we just sarcastically post "FREEDOM" and "now is not the time to address guns" while, ironically, never actually doing the difficult but necessary work of discussing the underlying structural economic conditions and caste dynamics which lead to this problem. Because that's hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Faildini@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago High rates of gun ownership is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for high rates of homicide. "Necessary" would imply that high homicide rate is flat out impossible without high gun ownership, which is clearly not true. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Mentally incompetent Americans. Mentally incompetent people in civilized countries usually don't even come close to guns. EDIT: Looks like the ammosexuals don't like my take. Yes, people lile you are left unarmed for good in civilized countries, if you like it or not. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but that makes it harder for people to actually address the fact that high rates of firearm ownership is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for high rates of homicide, which has consistently been correlated with a lack of socioeconomic mobility among young adult men across societies and times. But that's hard, so instead we just sarcastically post "FREEDOM" and "now is not the time to address guns" while, ironically, never actually doing the difficult but necessary work of discussing the underlying structural economic conditions and caste dynamics which lead to this problem. Because that's hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Faildini@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago High rates of gun ownership is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for high rates of homicide. "Necessary" would imply that high homicide rate is flat out impossible without high gun ownership, which is clearly not true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but that makes it harder for people to actually address the fact that high rates of firearm ownership is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for high rates of homicide, which has consistently been correlated with a lack of socioeconomic mobility among young adult men across societies and times. But that's hard, so instead we just sarcastically post "FREEDOM" and "now is not the time to address guns" while, ironically, never actually doing the difficult but necessary work of discussing the underlying structural economic conditions and caste dynamics which lead to this problem. Because that's hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Faildini@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago High rates of gun ownership is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for high rates of homicide. "Necessary" would imply that high homicide rate is flat out impossible without high gun ownership, which is clearly not true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Faildini@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago High rates of gun ownership is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for high rates of homicide. "Necessary" would imply that high homicide rate is flat out impossible without high gun ownership, which is clearly not true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Mentally incompetent Americans. Mentally incompetent people in civilized countries usually don't even come close to guns. EDIT: Looks like the ammosexuals don't like my take. Yes, people lile you are left unarmed for good in civilized countries, if you like it or not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Wouldn't his status as being mentally incompetent come up somewhere? I'm not from the USA and hate guns so I don't know all the details about these background checks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) In some of our states, a "background check" is when the examiner looks up from his desk. If you're blocking the background, he checks the "good to own a firearm" box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Yeah except the part where it is federal law that all FFL dealers have to run an FBI NICSs check on all gun sales in every state because that is a federal law. permalink fedilink source parent [+] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) In some of our states, a "background check" is when the examiner looks up from his desk. If you're blocking the background, he checks the "good to own a firearm" box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Yeah except the part where it is federal law that all FFL dealers have to run an FBI NICSs check on all gun sales in every state because that is a federal law. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago Yeah except the part where it is federal law that all FFL dealers have to run an FBI NICSs check on all gun sales in every state because that is a federal law. permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago (2 children) The alternative is that you have to do paperwork every time you buy or sell a gun, which is actually worse than innocent people dying permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The only paperwork I need is the one written by a bunch of old white dudes who owned slaves and barely washed 😎 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Looks like someone didn't find that funny 😂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The only paperwork I need is the one written by a bunch of old white dudes who owned slaves and barely washed 😎 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Looks like someone didn't find that funny 😂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Freedom to kill innocent people, freedom to die randomly by flying bullets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Can't have one without the other (contrary to what ammosexuals believe) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Can't have one without the other (contrary to what ammosexuals believe) permalink fedilink source parent